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Old 06-02-2010, 06:21 AM
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Hi every one had a great day at merryfield summerset with the jma

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Aileron servos futaba S3305

elevator servos futaba S3102
Great videos mate! we certainly did have a good time! i still have one of these hanging from the workshop roof, got it secondhand from a friend who had sheeted and glassed it. Really must finish it one day.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:22 AM
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if anyone needs just trailing oleo,s for the falcon.
we have got about 50 sets left that are in ''raw''state
this means the upper parts are none anodised , and have no holes drilled.
the lower parts are anodised and predrilled.
they are in full length (163MM)
these are the ''old''oleo,s now we make them with shoulder bolts.
these ''old''have m3 bolts

pickup will be always 6mm (pre drilled in full lenth)
axle size 6mm
this includes 2 mains and one front..

so what you get is :

2 upper main struts ( none anodised blank alluminium)
2 lower struts (ready anodised)
2 springs
all bolts needed
1 front oleo in parts full length
NO axles
NO warranty , self build


How much sandor?? I still have wire on my undercarrage and it's a little flimsy[]

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Old 06-02-2010, 09:40 AM
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if anyone needs just trailing oleo,s for the falcon.
we have got about 50 sets left that are in ''raw''state
this means the upper parts are none anodised , and have no holes drilled.
the lower parts are anodised and predrilled.
they are in full length (163MM)
these are the ''old''oleo,s now we make them with shoulder bolts.
these ''old''have m3 bolts

pickup will be always 6mm (pre drilled in full lenth)
axle size 6mm
this includes 2 mains and one front..

so what you get is :

2 upper main struts ( none anodised blank alluminium)
2 lower struts (ready anodised)
2 springs
all bolts needed
1 front oleo in parts full length
NO axles
NO warranty , self build


I'm definitely interested...even though I have been working on my own, god knows if they will last more than a flight or two.

Let us know price please.

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Old 06-02-2010, 09:43 AM
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For those interested in Sandors offer, I think it would be best if you contact him direct, either PM him or go to his site "Digitech turbines" and contact him that way.

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Old 06-02-2010, 04:02 PM
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For those interested in Sandors offer, I think it would be best if you contact him direct, either PM him or go to his site ''Digitech turbines'' and contact him that way.

Mike

Seems like there are enough people interested in the legs here, so it's only easier for everyone if he just posts the price here

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Old 06-02-2010, 04:23 PM
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Pics, if available, would also be very helpful. Thank you!
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:06 PM
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Dave

I think you will find that is against the rules of RCU for a manufacturer to advertise and post price's on a thread, that's why I suggested you contacted him direct.

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Old 06-02-2010, 05:32 PM
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Sorry BaldEagle, I believe you are right. I will PM him. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:33 PM
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So many questions, so much to read. JetCatJimmy is right, it might be quicker to build than read 138 pages.

I started a cut'n'paste into a Word file. Then I thought - this has been done before.
Anyone happen to keep their Word file and could email it to me?
I'm thinking Spektrum 7 radio and Wren 44 or 54 (both in stock) maybe fixed gear - or is there a drop-in set of good retracts? Don't you need to shorten the legs for a jet to get rid of the ''tall stalky'' look, and then will the legs retract into the wells?
Alasdair, received my falcon late last week and so far I have done the following (photos below)

- removed formers with the aid of a heat gun, this is to fit a dubro 50oz that was taken out my boomer and to rearrange the internals to my liking.
-machined (cut and bent) a turbine mount out of 2mm aluminium which was purchased from metal supermarket (ibrox). 4 degrees downthrust as per this thread.
-fixed my canopy which was broken in transit and i aim to build a frame for it and stick in a cockpit floor for a pilot etc
-trial fitted my springairs (again boomer hand me down), mains fit but the nose retract is mounted vertically so no good, anyone got any recommendations? I planned on using the wire legs but will pm sandor to see how much his trailing links are as I quite like them on my intro.
-the engine platform I plan on drilling through to hysol in some carbon rod to try and minimise the cracking that some people have experience due to enthusiastic landings.

I plan on using the servo mounts from J Perkins for all my control surfaces as I don't like the idea of the servos hanging out like the manual shows. Regarding hinging, how are the CA hinges holding up for current flyers?

Cheers,

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Old 06-03-2010, 04:06 AM
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Default RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

For those that are interested, the price for the trailing links are 70 euros which compared to the original price (99 euros) is a saving of 30% which is not to shabby.

Only downside is that you have to put them together yourself but if you can't do that then should you really be flying/building jets? [sm=tongue_smile.gif]
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:08 AM
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For those that are interested, the price for the trailing links are 70 euros which compared to the original price (99 euros) is a saving of 30% which is not to shabby.

Only downside is that you have to put them together yourself but if you can't do that then should you really be flying/building jets? [sm=tongue_smile.gif]

sorry my bad
miscalculated
50 euro,s for the set of 3
and just 25 for the 2 mains

if you guys have a interest inside the usa
get together and make a order together and ship it localy for less.
shipping from here with ups is 35 euro,s
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:17 AM
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Default RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

Even better!

If you can get back to me with a drop in price (wheels, brakes, retracts etc) with these legs I'll take a set off you. I'll probably want the airset lux pack aswell
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:25 AM
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Even better!

If you can get back to me with a drop in price (wheels, brakes, retracts etc) with these legs I'll take a set off you. I'll probably want the airset lux pack aswell
then you need to fit and lathe the mains to fit the 250 series we have..
like is said those are for RAW apllications .
full set you can find on our website
just type falcon
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is there any dealer in Europe that imports these bob Cats?As I cant find any dealers.Thanks!(I live in Malta)
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:47 AM
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ok, full set it is since its ~343 (raw plus everything else) vs 399 euro (complete).
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:06 AM
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is there any dealer in Europe that imports these bob Cats?As I cant find any dealers.Thanks!(I live in Malta)
CCRC Models - http://www.ccrcmodels.com/

He had one at the scottish airshow which alasdair snapped up and i grabbed the last one he had at home/shop. He did say he was getting more but can't confirm, why not send him (Colin) an email.

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Old 06-03-2010, 08:34 AM
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Thanks very much for the help!=)
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Wahey, bits have started arriving today sees the arrival of

-CF wing tubes
-digitech prolynx trailing link gear
-uat

I suppose i better get installing
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:09 PM
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Coming down the home-stretch on my Falcon. First jet is a Intro boomerange with P 60. 158 flights and 30 hours so far on the P60 and no boogers!!!!!

To the Falcon I added 1/2 x 1/2 aluminum angle (8 1nches lg. total) under the motor mount platform with a equal length screwed to the fuselage area. Added bits of plywood inside body to run screws into. Hope this does the job. Also made turbine mount out of clear pine, sculptured and painted jet black to match . Looks like it was factory job. Also added keys to locate booms to wings for initial alignment for less fishing around at assembly. Used spring-air retracts on my Boomer and no failures so far. Doing same on Falcon. Got a bad retract (spring) this time but man said he would take care of it so sent it back this week. Just about ready to install all the interior goodies next week.
Fuel tank is 64 oz. and is almost a perfect fit on top of wing tubes to rear fuse former. Its Turtle wax car wash jug from WalMart .

Had my kit for about a year but just started it about a month ago. This thread has been great and appreciated all the help it provided over the last year.


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Old 06-12-2010, 12:01 AM
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Hello Fellow Jet Freaks, I am looking to make an Order to Digitech-Turbines for the Pro-Lynks Oleos. Great price BTW. I am looking a some people in the USA that would also like to go in on One order to save on the shipping costs. Let me know if you are interested. PM me or email me direct. jedijingle@hotmail.com Cheers.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:59 AM
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You said you added keys to locate the booms to the wings? What do you mean? Got any pics? BTW, sounds like you made great improvements to it. Can't wait to hear about the maiden. Sure it will go great.
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Coming down the home-stretch on my Falcon. First jet is a Intro boomerang with P 60. 158 flights and 30 hours so far on the P60 and no boogers!!!!!

To the Falcon I added 1/2 x 1/2 aluminum angle (8 1nches lg. total) under the motor mount platform with a equal length screwed to the fuselage area. Added bits of plywood inside body to run screws into. Hope this does the job. Also made turbine mount out of clear pine, sculptured and painted jet black to match . Looks like it was factory job. Also added keys to locate booms to wings for initial alignment for less fishing around at assembly. Used spring-air retracts on my Boomer and no failures so far. Doing same on Falcon. Got a bad retract (spring) this time but man said he would take care of it so sent it back this week. Just about ready to install all the interior goodies next week.
Fuel tank is 64 oz. and is almost a perfect fit on top of wing tubes to rear fuse former. Its Turtle wax car wash jug from WalMart .

Had my kit for about a year but just started it about a month ago. This thread has been great and appreciated all the help it provided over the last year.


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Old 06-12-2010, 06:47 PM
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Looking to replace my Falcon. Had a RX batt go dead in flight and crashed the plane. Motor and gear survived.

Anyone have an extra they might part with
Let me know
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Old 06-12-2010, 09:36 PM
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Jimmy-
I fly @ TIMPA in Tucson in winter, Michigan in summer. Keys are simply small pieces of dowels or pieces of plywood that locate wings etc that you don't want to move or shift out of alignment or be in incorrect alignment. I simply assembled the model and marked to inside and outside of booms, dissassmbled them and after removing covering equal to key size, glued four pieces of plywood ( about 1/4 x 1/8 x 1") adjacent to the boom on the wing. So my keys are simply small rectangles of wood glued to the wing to locate the booms. Its an old free-flight technique to locate wings and stabs so they do not shift. Sorry no pics.

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Old 06-14-2010, 05:05 PM
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Does the falcon 120 need to sit with a positive angle of attack to avoid popping off the runway? I saw one fly several times this weekend and it seemed the pilot had problems rotating. I just purchased the digital LCD angle guage from Harbor Freight and have been measuring many angles My falcon appears to be at zero degrees sitting on a flat surface. Engine is angled down about 4 deg.
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After fixing my hack (boomer intro) and keeping my pregnant wife happy i've found a little time to get my falcon closer to flying. So far i've cut/hacked at the wing to fit the pro-lynx gear along with the servo mounts for all the flying surfaces and cut some new wing tubes from the cf i ordered.

Couple of questions though.... how have other people done their nosewheel steering? On my boomer with the same gear its a closed loop going through the firewall which was rather easy to plumb, this however requires a servo mount somewhere inside or... Also, what are you using for the air disconnects for the wings? I was thinking of using robart quick disconnects (or a variant).

Finally, David101 - any photos or your motor mount? Always interested!
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