Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
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There is a decal on the box for the one I just got that says www.fly-model.com . Thier web site says they export to the UK, you might be able to e-mail them at [email protected] and find out who retails the plane in the UK.
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ORIGINAL: skywarrior
Hi
I am viewing this thread in Uk and want to know where I can buy a kit for the Falcon 120 . I intend to put a Wren 44 Gold in it but cannot find an importer. Can you help please.
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David
Hi
I am viewing this thread in Uk and want to know where I can buy a kit for the Falcon 120 . I intend to put a Wren 44 Gold in it but cannot find an importer. Can you help please.
Regards
David
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EDIT: to add link: http://www.wholesaleplanes.co.uk/ £149.99 instead of £199.00
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
ORIGINAL: skywarrior
Hi
I am viewing this thread in Uk and want to know where I can buy a kit for the Falcon 120 . I intend to put a Wren 44 Gold in it but cannot find an importer. Can you help please.
Regards
David
Hi
I am viewing this thread in Uk and want to know where I can buy a kit for the Falcon 120 . I intend to put a Wren 44 Gold in it but cannot find an importer. Can you help please.
Regards
David
http://www.planenutz.co.uk/
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ORIGINAL: skywarrior
Hi just looking at your thread, how does this go with a Wren 44 Gold?
10.5 lbs version
Thanks
David
Hi just looking at your thread, how does this go with a Wren 44 Gold?
10.5 lbs version
Thanks
David
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
It will fly it just fine at lower altitudes with the lower power engines. Just don't expect much in the way of vertical. I have been flying with a Wren 54 throttled back to 8.5 lbs max thrust. The reaason for this is I am putting a Golden West in mine and wanted to get used to the lower power settings and still have it in reserve. She flies just fine at the lower power. You just have to use some energy managment when pulling vertical manuvers. I have had comments from several guys surprised I can keep it in so close and tight. I have a dozen flights on it now and just got all my mixes dialed in including standard flaps or crow if I need to get down quick. This thing will land on a dime and give you some change back, especially with brakes.
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Mario you will love it. She flys great it just takes a pilot that understands what the stick on the left without the spring on it is for. I have been flying with the Wren 54 and am hopfully going to get the Golden West back in it. With the P80 you will hardly need to fly over half power. Look forward to your maiden on a couple weeks.
Mario you will love it. She flys great it just takes a pilot that understands what the stick on the left without the spring on it is for. I have been flying with the Wren 54 and am hopfully going to get the Golden West back in it. With the P80 you will hardly need to fly over half power. Look forward to your maiden on a couple weeks.
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With the P80 you will hardly need to fly over half power.
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The P-80 is a pretty heavy engine. Make sure you reinforce the rear fuse and engine mount area. There's an obvious weak spot at the right angle at the front of the mount surface. If you scroll back a ways in this thread you'll find a couple postings about it. After about 35 flights I finally bounced a landing and cracked the fuse there. Your P-80 is about a pound heavier than my Wren SS so it's likely to happen to you.
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With the P80 you will hardly need to fly over half power.
Joe
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So, as i read all this, i think the wren 44 gold will be a very good powerplant.......
A powerplant wich will not break your jet in two halves[:@] but enough power to move this jet fast.......
Nickos
A powerplant wich will not break your jet in two halves[:@] but enough power to move this jet fast.......
Nickos
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The P-80 is a pretty heavy engine. Make sure you reinforce the rear fuse and engine mount area. There's an obvious weak spot at the right angle at the front of the mount surface. If you scroll back a ways in this thread you'll find a couple postings about it. After about 35 flights I finally bounced a landing and cracked the fuse there. Your P-80 is about a pound heavier than my Wren SS so it's likely to happen to you.
Joe
With the P80 you will hardly need to fly over half power.
Joe
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Mike,
You need to go a little further back. See post #1295
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_59...52/key_/tm.htm
My fuse cracked the same way. To fix it I added two 1/2" X 3/4" hardwood rails similar to what Tim did. It would be fairly easy to make this mod. while building. With an engine as heavy as a P-80 it is likely to happen.
Joe
You need to go a little further back. See post #1295
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_59...52/key_/tm.htm
My fuse cracked the same way. To fix it I added two 1/2" X 3/4" hardwood rails similar to what Tim did. It would be fairly easy to make this mod. while building. With an engine as heavy as a P-80 it is likely to happen.
Joe
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page 52 and 66 has engine mount cracks-you can also do a thread search at the bottom of any page.
mine started to crack after about 40 flights with a wren 54,i glued plywood on the inside and a fillet of hysol on the outside
mine started to crack after about 40 flights with a wren 54,i glued plywood on the inside and a fillet of hysol on the outside
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Joe
Thanks for that, looking at the whole rear end I am tempted to cut the whole rear end off and reprofile it to match the turbine with a purpose built mount, I am also toying with stripping the wings and glass sheeting them, but at the moment I can't do any of that as I have my right arm in plaster after an operation so all this is in the mind and is just a thought process that is designed to keep me from going mad with boredom.
Mike
Thanks for that, looking at the whole rear end I am tempted to cut the whole rear end off and reprofile it to match the turbine with a purpose built mount, I am also toying with stripping the wings and glass sheeting them, but at the moment I can't do any of that as I have my right arm in plaster after an operation so all this is in the mind and is just a thought process that is designed to keep me from going mad with boredom.
Mike
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My tire's and wheels ended to big for the supplied wheel well inserts. I found that Krafts 8 oz cream cheese spread containers worked very well for
the job. This is the container. Ill post pix of the installed wells later.
the job. This is the container. Ill post pix of the installed wells later.
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ORIGINAL: joeflyer
Mike,
You need to go a little further back. See post #1295
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_59...52/key_/tm.htm
My fuse cracked the same way. To fix it I added two 1/2" X 3/4" hardwood rails similar to what Tim did. It would be fairly easy to make this mod. while building. With an engine as heavy as a P-80 it is likely to happen.
Joe
Mike,
You need to go a little further back. See post #1295
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_59...52/key_/tm.htm
My fuse cracked the same way. To fix it I added two 1/2" X 3/4" hardwood rails similar to what Tim did. It would be fairly easy to make this mod. while building. With an engine as heavy as a P-80 it is likely to happen.
Joe
Ha might help if I upload the pics!
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Greenacre,
I hate to tell you this but nothing you did will help the condition I'm referring to. That mount area is like a shelf cantilevered out from the back of the fuse. The stress from a load applied anywhere along that flat surface is concentrated along that 90 degree edge at the rear of the fuse. Putting a bunch of glue in there won't fix it. Those wood blocks you have by the engine are just adding weight and not helping at all.
If the designers had made the wood inside that mount shelf a bit longer so it extends inside the fuse a bit it would be a lot stronger. You need to do something to distribute the load to the rear structure of the fuse. Something like hardwood rails that will support the engine weight and are well secured inside the fuse in front of that sharp edge.
I also usually land pretty smoothly. This plane is easy to land and will slow down to walking speed with 45 degree flaps (without crow). But nobody bats 1000. Out of 75 flights so far I bounced one and it cracked back there.
Joe
I hate to tell you this but nothing you did will help the condition I'm referring to. That mount area is like a shelf cantilevered out from the back of the fuse. The stress from a load applied anywhere along that flat surface is concentrated along that 90 degree edge at the rear of the fuse. Putting a bunch of glue in there won't fix it. Those wood blocks you have by the engine are just adding weight and not helping at all.
If the designers had made the wood inside that mount shelf a bit longer so it extends inside the fuse a bit it would be a lot stronger. You need to do something to distribute the load to the rear structure of the fuse. Something like hardwood rails that will support the engine weight and are well secured inside the fuse in front of that sharp edge.
I also usually land pretty smoothly. This plane is easy to land and will slow down to walking speed with 45 degree flaps (without crow). But nobody bats 1000. Out of 75 flights so far I bounced one and it cracked back there.
Joe
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Joeflyer,
Then I will definitely put the hardwood rails to go into the fuse area!
Thanks,
Mario
Joeflyer, you have a photo of your fix with the hardwood rails?
Then I will definitely put the hardwood rails to go into the fuse area!
Thanks,
Mario
Joeflyer, you have a photo of your fix with the hardwood rails?
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Thanks for that, looking at the whole rear end I am tempted to cut the whole rear end off and reprofile it to match the turbine with a purpose built mount, I am also toying with stripping the wings and glass sheeting them, but at the moment I can't do any of that as I have my right arm in plaster after an operation so all this is in the mind and is just a thought process that is designed to keep me from going mad with boredom.
Sorry about your injury. No need to cut the whole back off. That's a bit extreme. If you add the rails as mentioned you'll be fine. A friend is glassing his. It's a lot of work and not really necessary. Just strengthen it in the right areas and don't let the airflow get into the fuse or wings.
Mario,
The pictures in post #1295 are pretty good. Mine doesn't look much different. I don't have any pictures of the inside. The only thing I did different is that I carved a block of wood with a couple of notches to fit the rails and epoxied it inside the rear fuse. That may be overkill but I wanted to be sure that it was all tied together. Here's a few pictures.
Joe
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WWWAAAAAY to many clever people on this forum!
Thanx for the great ideas mateys!
wil start my build soon found the perfect 1.5 litrs fuel bottle as "COLES" thats downunder for those who would like to know
Thanx for the great ideas mateys!
wil start my build soon found the perfect 1.5 litrs fuel bottle as "COLES" thats downunder for those who would like to know
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ORIGINAL: joeflyer
Mike,
Sorry about your injury. No need to cut the whole back off. That's a bit extreme. If you add the rails as mentioned you'll be fine. A friend is glassing his. It's a lot of work and not really necessary. Just strengthen it in the right areas and don't let the airflow get into the fuse or wings.
Joe
Mike,
Sorry about your injury. No need to cut the whole back off. That's a bit extreme. If you add the rails as mentioned you'll be fine. A friend is glassing his. It's a lot of work and not really necessary. Just strengthen it in the right areas and don't let the airflow get into the fuse or wings.
Joe
Thanks for the concern, what I have now thought about is cutting into the rear cantilever support at approx 20mm inside each edge and taking out the middle section, then remove the balsa inside the projecting two arms and putting in a couple of carbon rods projecting back into the fus and glue them in, this will allow lowering the turbine a little to clear the FOD guard as well.
As to extreme measures you will not belive the modifications I do to my composites to accomadate a cannister silencer, in fact most composites don't have the facility for a decent silencing system, the only one I have which does is the ARF Composite 2.1M Extra so what did I do to that, I converted it to electric, I must get out more.
Mike