Setting up Canards and ailerons on a rafale?
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Setting up Canards and ailerons on a rafale?
Hi Guys,
My latest project is a fei bao rafale, but this is my first model with canards, Do you just use the canards as an elevator and ailerons as normal, or is there some mixing involved.
My latest project is a fei bao rafale, but this is my first model with canards, Do you just use the canards as an elevator and ailerons as normal, or is there some mixing involved.
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RE: Setting up Canards and ailerons on a rafale?
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I do not know about the Raphael but on the Eurosport and Super Reaper the best procedure is:-
1. Set the main Delta to Elevon mode.
2. Set the Canard as a slave to the elevator. This can be switchable and have variable offset with Futaba which you can trim in flight, but I do know about JR.
Deltas are very efficient at take off and main flight but smooth landings as opposed to Kangaroo arrivals are the problem.
I do not know about the Raphael but on the Eurosport and Super Reaper the best procedure is:-
1. Set the main Delta to Elevon mode.
2. Set the Canard as a slave to the elevator. This can be switchable and have variable offset with Futaba which you can trim in flight, but I do know about JR.
Deltas are very efficient at take off and main flight but smooth landings as opposed to Kangaroo arrivals are the problem.
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I am also building the Fei Bao Rafale and understood that canard should be slaved to elevator channel permanently. Would also appreciate if various setups could enhance flight caracteristics especially for landing on short strips.
Thanks. Dany
Thanks. Dany
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So let me get this right, set the delta to elevons and add canards as slave to elevator, but some fly with just the elevons and use the canards for landing only, and others use the canards mixed with elevator.[sm=71_71.gif]
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RE: Setting up Canards and ailerons on a rafale?
Mart 1,
Look up (Xtreme Jets Rafale Maiden Video) ( Mdurand ) on RCU. Page 3 video.At end of flight after landing at end of video you will see canards operating with elevons.
Hope this helps.
Use Rafale in choose under aircraft. Lots of info available.
Regards,
John C
Look up (Xtreme Jets Rafale Maiden Video) ( Mdurand ) on RCU. Page 3 video.At end of flight after landing at end of video you will see canards operating with elevons.
Hope this helps.
Use Rafale in choose under aircraft. Lots of info available.
Regards,
John C
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So let me get this right, set the delta to elevons and add canards as slave to elevator, but some fly with just the elevons and use the canards for landing only, and others use the canards mixed with elevator.[sm=71_71.gif]
So let me get this right, set the delta to elevons and add canards as slave to elevator, but some fly with just the elevons and use the canards for landing only, and others use the canards mixed with elevator.[sm=71_71.gif]
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Just a clarification: I fly with the canards active, but use different 'centers' between flying and landing modes.
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So let me get this right, set the delta to elevons and add canards as slave to elevator, but some fly with just the elevons and use the canards for landing only, and others use the canards mixed with elevator.[sm=71_71.gif]
So let me get this right, set the delta to elevons and add canards as slave to elevator, but some fly with just the elevons and use the canards for landing only, and others use the canards mixed with elevator.[sm=71_71.gif]
Can you please provide figures for your settings for take off/landing and during flight. Appreciate also knowing how did you program different centers on your radio (Futaba JR or other brand?).
Tjhanks. Dany
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Edgar,
Can you please provide figures for your settings for take off/landing and during flight. Appreciate also knowing how did you program different centers on your radio (Futaba JR or other brand?).
Tjhanks. Dany
Edgar,
Can you please provide figures for your settings for take off/landing and during flight. Appreciate also knowing how did you program different centers on your radio (Futaba JR or other brand?).
Tjhanks. Dany
I use the same travel recommended in the manual for the canards.
I added an 'offset' mix to the canards channel of 2% in the 'up' direction when the landing gear switch is in the gear down position. This makes easier to raise the plane nose for landing.
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Edgar,
Thanks for your clarification. Please note that i do not have he manual you are referring to (is it the Tam manual?), therefore would appreciate if you can provide me with mixing rate for inflight setting. On the other hand presume the offset setup will also be active during take off view gear would be in down position i.e. offset mix activated.
Thanks for your clarifications.
Best regards.
Dany
Thanks for your clarification. Please note that i do not have he manual you are referring to (is it the Tam manual?), therefore would appreciate if you can provide me with mixing rate for inflight setting. On the other hand presume the offset setup will also be active during take off view gear would be in down position i.e. offset mix activated.
Thanks for your clarifications.
Best regards.
Dany
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RE: Setting up Canards and ailerons on a rafale?
Is anybody use Futaba 7c and Canards?, how can I configure to use cananrds with elevons please, I have a Eurofighter and I would like to mix the cannards to use only wit gears are down, thank you
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Is anybody use Futaba 7c and Canards?, how can I configure to use cananrds with elevons please, I have a Eurofighter and I would like to mix the cannards to use only wit gears are down, thank you
Is anybody use Futaba 7c and Canards?, how can I configure to use cananrds with elevons please, I have a Eurofighter and I would like to mix the cannards to use only wit gears are down, thank you
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Edgar,
So you make another program mix (I have Futaba 14mz) Gear Master Canard Slave and make an offset setting of 2%. What equates the 2% is that on the Offset A or B if Futaba and 2% = 10, 20 or 30 etc. Any help appreciated.
So you make another program mix (I have Futaba 14mz) Gear Master Canard Slave and make an offset setting of 2%. What equates the 2% is that on the Offset A or B if Futaba and 2% = 10, 20 or 30 etc. Any help appreciated.
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Edgar,
So you make another program mix (I have Futaba 14mz) Gear Master Canard Slave and make an offset setting of 2%. What equates the 2% is that on the Offset A or B if Futaba and 2% = 10, 20 or 30 etc. Any help appreciated.
Edgar,
So you make another program mix (I have Futaba 14mz) Gear Master Canard Slave and make an offset setting of 2%. What equates the 2% is that on the Offset A or B if Futaba and 2% = 10, 20 or 30 etc. Any help appreciated.
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RE: Setting up Canards and ailerons on a rafale?
I have flown Eurosports for years. The canards are used most of the time. I have them on a switch so that I can switch them off for fast low passes, as it is less twitchy like this. For take off I have them up about 5 degrees to help rotation. I do not use a different centre for landing but if you fly in a tight space then it would be a good idea, as you can settle into a higher alpha, and therefore slower approach.
Remeber, canards move in the opposite direction to your elevator, so up elevator means canard TE down.
John
Remeber, canards move in the opposite direction to your elevator, so up elevator means canard TE down.
John
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I have 3 Rafales and 2 eurofiders the setup is not the same the rafale canards have much more movement than eurofiders and I using the mix it's a elevator and flaps on aux 1 spectrum for landing about 1cm up for landing and 4mm down elevators in delta mode .