Aussie Bart

Keith
One tailerons servo is set to channel 2 the other is set to channel 5. In my radio aileron is set to channel 2 and elevator is set to channel 5 so when you power up without iGyro then only one panel operates respectively. Once you do the setup assistant with delta and set aileron a to channel 2, aileron b to 0, elevator a to channel 5, and elevator b to 0 the Richards magic starts to happen. You the do the rest of the setup for sense of direction and once finished if panels move wrong way you reverse the radio function.

as for the programme, it's like your mum telling you never to take candy from a stranger.....if I bury my bird cause I have some leftover bug from a weird mix then that's my fault but if you take a programme from someone and you bury your bird then life is not good.

FenderBean

I will have to look into some radio stuff your setup is confusing to me, but I see you are still using a channel per servo so I miss understood your other post. As for the tailerons I normally use a miss for this function but I do remember the 18mz having programming just for it I will go back and look at some stuff. As for the programming joke it's always nice to see other folks setups for comparison and its a common thing for the JR guys. It's never ment to be a download and go fly, any used programming must always be checked. Sometimes the way people explain certain things here reminds me of guys I have met that know so much and have taught the same thing for so long they can't explain it for people just learning .

mick15

The wing incedence is adjustable Keith.

muzzgail

Agreed, the wing incidence is adjustable. There may be washers underneath the wing box, where it attaches to the undercarriage. This is where you can shim wing incidence.

Aussie Bart

Keith

the most important point is do not do any form of delta mixing in the radio. Set the radio up for 1 aileron servo and 1 elevator servo in the plane type.

muzzgail

My pipes were much too long also. I just put the bell mouths in front of the wooden mounts and shimmed it off until the pipes fit at the back, problem solved.

FenderBean

the only way you can do this is putting shims into places that would normally be flush to a surface or flexing the carbon crossbeams by adding shims to the location where the wing box mounts to the gear. If the wings are built the same and the box is machined the same it should all line up(this sounds like a quality issue)......I would rather just add a mix in to fix the issue, been doing that for years to get rid of bad tendencies in large 3D planes, but if im not understanding something maybe a picture of what you guys are describing would help.
Bart thanks for the info that is what I was thinking you just threw some stuff in that confused me.

FenderBean

Hey Matt missed your comment, I said that wrong you can measure it no problem it's the adjusting it part I was saying you couldn't adjust. You can adjust it like the guys are saying but the only way you can do it will cause a twisting issue with cross beams. If the incidence is correct at the out position and you add shims to adjust the back position you have just changed the out position incidence as well so now it's not right. I think a simple mixing that's activated when you swing the wings to correct for a new track is the best solution for this problem. This shouldn't even be a issues but due to the new change it would appear someone has noticed it. I don't think this is a big deal unless it's causing instability or loss of control.

marquisvns

can't stop going forward with the pod, so here it is and some weathering....

FenderBean

Such an improvement, nice work.

FenderBean

I have a question for the folks using the Robbe battery backer system and the Igyro, can you use the R7003SB receiver? In the instruction is says with the R7008SB you have to use the channel 8 but it must set to SBus. The R7003SB is not a 8 channel receiver but when used for sbus you get the full 18 channels. Can I just use port one on the receiver? As it sits port one is used to plug into the receiver ports on the battery backer. I plugged everything up to the another battery back and used two R7008SBs and set channel 8 to Sbus like the instructions and everything seemed to work fine when I go through the setup assist but when I did this on the 7003SB things didnt seem to detect right. Thoughts?

marquisvns

Thanks Keith, get DX18!

Barry

Aussie Bart

Keith
forget using Rectum, 7003, Robbe, iGyro all work fine together

FenderBean

So how do you setup the 7003SB since I can't do a channel 8 as SBus.

Aussie Bart

Keith
the reciever carries all the signals from the radio, regardless of how many physical ports it has. If you are running iGyro then you plug port 1 of each 3channel reciever into the Rx ports of the iGyro, then plug the rudder port and elevator b port of the gyro into the to Rx inputs of the 2018. The I gyro must be set for SBus in and digital out. If you are not using the iGyro then straight from port 1 of Rx to 2018 ports.
if you want to run telemetry then this plugs into the SBus 2 port of the primary Rx.
all of the 18 channels can be utilized. If you add an MPDX1 then you have 25 channels, if you run 2 MPDX1's then you can have 32 channels. These are great for low level functions such as gear valves, brakes etc.

FenderBean

Thanks bart this is what I thought and how I had it setup it wasnt detecting the receivers when I used the 7003 doing like you said above. I had everything hooked up right just wasnt seeing any of my inputs during the setup. I will give it a try again

FenderBean

I meant to ask you, do you setup the radio with two receivers or just one when use the Robbe setup?

Aussie Bart

Just make sure that your polarity is around the right way and the the rx's are in the right mode. As default they are mode a which is SBus port 1 but can be programmed for variations of this.
I have been using them like this for years.

FenderBean

Okay im getting a glitch, something jolts all my servos while the IGyro is connected, I did manage to get the receivers reading. Funny thing is without the Igyro my receivers report 100% signal strength with the Igyro in place it drops to 98%.
I did get the one elevator and one aileron working with the gyro but thats because im using two channels for the elevators and two for the ailerons. I will change this to have both ailerons and elevators on the same channel. Whats giving me trouble now is the mode selection channel and the gain channel, when I do the auto setup I cannot get past the gain part. When I move the slider I see the value changing but the channel assignment will change between 3 different channels and I move the slider up and down. I may just kick the Igyro out, just not liking the way it works with the 2018, the 8 channel receivers seems to work great but I am not having any luck with the 3/18 channel receiver.

FenderBean

Hey Bart something that may help me figure this out is to see your channel assignment. Sometimes this helps folks like me since I tend over do it on radio programming. I can even mirror it to see if that fixes the problems I'm having by eliminating the radio side of the house.

rc4flying

My Feedback: (21)

Did you set the "DIG OUT" to On setting in the Receiver setup on the gyro.
Also set the Gyro orientation.
Is the RX set to Normal mode. I don't think the gyro like the high speed mode on the rcvrs.
Just throwing out some ideas.

By the way, I like this plane and have been following your thread. I plan on using the Robbe 2018 and iGyro setup with 6303 rcvrs.

FenderBean

Yeah the dig out is on, I think the orientation is not right which is cause the elevators to move when I roll the gyro and vis versa. The receivers are set via the TX now, I wonder what people like Bart are running because both selections for the receiver are high speed. I would have to select Fast Multi to come out of high speed I believe. Still working it I posted on the powerbox forums to see if they might be able to help as well. I did notice software updates but didnt see any place to download the update.

muzzgail

Quick roll call guys....

What does your F14 weigh with UAT's full and tanks empty.

Full wing and ordnance options, mine is 30kg

WimB

My Feedback: (1)

Mine is 28kg, dry, UAT's full. full option wings, don't remember if I had the ordnance on when I weighed it. balance was spot on without lead.

Wim

FenderBean

I was wondering about the metal insert that go in the stabs, are they suppose to be removable? Also when you balance using the bolt, how far forward of the carbon spar do you balance?