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Old 02-14-2008, 11:17 PM
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I am re-doing all the B-58 plugs and molds. I have been talking and working on them for the last couple years, I have finally got into gear and working on them as much as I can (With the help of my friend Paul). It will be set up for turbines and will be all glass. The earlier versions were glass fuse and nacelles with foam and balsa wings, powered by 4 ducted fans. I have been asked by several people over the years if I was going to produce a kit? Once I have the molds finished and have the first model flying I will sell a few kits. Because this is big project I will not sell any more than 10 kits. There are several parts to the model and the gear is very expensive to make. If you are interested in a kit please e-mail me and let me know so I can gage the project accordingly. I am not asking for deposits or anything like that. I need to know for the machining of the gear so I can get the best price for them. I hope to have the first model out of the molds this summer and kits to follow a couple months later. Just realize this will not be a ARF and will not be cheap. Butch 817-223-0779 rssickels@sbcglobal.net
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:47 AM
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Good luck with your B-58, one of those models you don't see on every airfield. What a beauty!
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:09 AM
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Are you doing the TB-58 like last time or a B? Hope you go for the B. I am sure you have looked at both. I still have a bunch of pictures from Little Rock AFB somewhere from when I was stationed there with the B-58. Bob
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:55 PM
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WOW,
That is one stunning model. Please keep us posted as to it's progress. It's a jet from a great era.
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:22 PM
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I always thought the B-58 was one of the coolest jets of all time. I was stationed at Davis Monthan AFB in the 70's and the remaining 80 or so B-58's were mothballed there in the Boneyard. They started scrapping them and it broke my heart every time I drove by and saw one less parked by the fence. Eventally they were all gone, although I think 7 or 8 are in various aviation museums.

That's going to be a tough jet project with the narrow engine nacelles. Sure will be neat if you can make it work.

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Well you build the nacelle, the would go somewhere in the middle, and for the cones, somehow scratch build the cones and make them so that the air flows around them and into the turbine intake. This is just a guess, as I like to draw what I think about on paper.
You can make the two outer nacelles dummys, as you will only then need two engines.
Once again I am just throwing out an idea.
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:10 PM
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Ah Butch...you are a madman!!! Build it and they will come! How's the 105 and 106 coming?
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:35 PM
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The F-105 is coming along. Lynn Mc found out I was working on B-58 and decide he wasn't dead yet and want to work on it, I guess I will let him since he was the "Brain Child" on the fist one.HA ! It's been nice getting him and Paul S helping and we can put are heads together and come up with new ways to build the kit. Will post on the way the kit will be built later. Butch
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i wish i lived closer to you guys. you always have cool projects. but i am no dallas cowboy fan, so houston is where i will stay. it did break my heart that bum phillips son is the coach, the beloved bum phillips. so i hate them a little less. but i would like one of those 105's. i saw and piddled with what you had at waco last year. barry
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:23 AM
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Hey Butchie,
Any idea what size turbines would fit in the inner nacelles?
P-120 - Titan = ~4.4 in dia.
P-70 = ~3.8 in dia.
probably would want ~ 1/2" clearance around the max dia...
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:58 AM
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Ron the nacelle is 6"h x 6"w so you can put a P-80 with by-pass in just fine. I decide to make separate molds for each nacelle and attache the pylons to the nacelles. That way when they come out of the mold you can bolt them right on and not trim and fit. (All that stuff is a real pain). Butch
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Hi Butch, could you please give length, wingspan and est. weight. Est. price and delivery time on 2 kits, I would also like to know if you can do the fuselage extension for the supersonic airliner version they had on the drawing board.

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Craig,
I too am a B-58 fan....one of them is still alive and well at the Pima County Air Museum, or at least it was the last time I visited. It had no engines or nacelles, and was missing a few small access panels, and many generations of sparrows had grown up in those open compartments, but in all, the airframe looked almost perfect.
I saw it fly on numerous occasions when I wore the "Blue Suit" in the early sixties.

One of the airplanes from my old squadron is at the Pima County Air Museum also.
Douglas C-133B 59-0527....a very rare survivor.

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The model is 125" long and 78"wing span which makes the scale 1/8.8. I know it is a weird scale but when we built the first model Lynn measured the inside of his suburban and that is what would fit. The weight will be about 50#s. Time frame on kits, I have no idea. Probably the day after they are ready to ship. A good B-58 web site is www.B-58.com
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Old 02-17-2008, 12:58 PM
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The landing gear.
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Congratulations on the award, the gear looks great, as does the plane, are you taking deposits, can you PM mail me a no. where we talk on the phone.

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:52 AM
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Check out what I found!!! The landing is a MUST SEE!! Drag chute and all.... Enjoy

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-yC32VmGm-Y
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That is the second plane we built. I am the Fat ***** letting it go on take off. Butch
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LMAO Butch!!!! That's funny! Thanks for the insight....great model BTW!!! Is it still alive?
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Butch, was that the DF version flying? Seems to fly pretty good on Dynamax. I'm really impressed.

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ORIGINAL: tomcatman

LMAO Butch!!!! That's funny! Thanks for the insight....great model BTW!!! Is it still alive?
No, it was re-kitted spectacularly! []

Hopefully we can convince him to post that video as well.
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It had cut down Violet rotors and OS 46's. The fan dia was about 3 3/4 and all 4 engines put out 24#'s of thrust. Most of the time it landed with one engine out. Here is the crash video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M98KxB-vqPo. Enjoy !
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Looked like it was flying fine. Ever figure out what caused the crash?

That airplane will make a great turbine! I agree with whoever suggested two turbines on the inboards and dumies outboard.

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Old 02-18-2008, 06:19 PM
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David H (DCM) was flying it, It had a bad on/off switch and we didn't replace it. IT TURNED IT"S SELF OFF ! Yea dumb move on our part. David was so shook up that he had crashed it, he wouldn't help pick it up. I still make fun of that. Just for the record, David is one of the best pilots out there. If he crashes no one could have save it. Butch
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