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Old 09-17-2009, 05:04 PM
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How many in plane charging fires have there been ?[sm=52_52.gif]
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That's a real good idea Sky. For now, I'll just paint the heads of my screws blue.

Over the winter I'll likely do the 'one screw mod' like yours.

I'm all NiCads for the RX, but one LiPo for the ECU, so I'm always watching the LiPo during the charge.
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Hi,
you are right and that is exactly what I shall probably do, however when you have had a Lipo fire in the nose when charging you might feel the same about getting the nose off quickly (see post 385). This is why I changed to A123 cells which are safer in this respect in my opinion but I will still charge at home now with the nose off when I can conveniently do so. This must be quicker and more convenient than undoing x number of screws.

Anyhow it works for me

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The 123s are suposed to be "safe". But if you've personally already seen a lipo fire in one of ur own models, I cant say I blame u for taking extra precautions, even with 123's.
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How many in plane charging fires have there been ?[sm=52_52.gif]
I've seen pics of at least two in-jet lipo charging fires. I personally cooked one myself in a non-jet app. The good news was that it was not in my plane at the time. I was damn lucky though, that I was standing right next to the batt and was able to immediately throw it clear the instant it "cooked off" while attached to the charger under the hood of my ChevyTRUCK.

What the hell was I thinking? I would NEVER charge one in the plane for safety reasons, but thought that under my truck hood was OK? What an idiot. I'm cringing at my own stupidity even as I write this, but I don't mind if it keeps someone else from doing the same thing.

I now have longer input wires from the truck batt to the charger, and any field charging takes place on the ground .
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Hi,
just completed the refit of my new nose cone unit and it looks very nice in my opinion. This now helps balance this aircraft in more ways than one. With the center screw the nose is off in a trice and back on in another. I will put a safety screw under the nose where its out of sight. the existing one will be exchanged for a black finished version.
The wooden dowel is a piece of broom handle with a screw in M4 threaded centre. I will put a steady bracket in ply just to reinforce this in case of heavy landings that may whip the glue joint. I have already stiffened the whole assembly with some small carbon rod. The A123 batteries are in the right place and the 4200 Lipo comes out with ease for charging. This makes balancing a dream compared with chunks of lead stuffed up the nose !
Looking forward to seeing her fly especially with the new flaps !!

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...Looking forward to seeing her fly especially with the new flaps !!...
What's the story on these flaps? Are they your own design or something new from PST?

I just ordered another (this time an X version) and I was not told about any flap change.
My previous 2 flew great with the conventional flaps.

Thanks for any info...Scott
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What's the story on these flaps? Are they your own design or something new from PST?
I just got my 2nd ARF... It's the "X" version, they're the same old flaps we know and love.

... Get a vid of the flight David. The jet looks good BTW.
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David, I counted 5 batteries in your jet... What goodies do ya have in it to warrant 5 batts??
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Old 10-01-2009, 07:14 AM
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Hi.
2 A123 for main power supply, 2 A123 for position lights/ central flashing beacon and wing tip lights plus 2x 3Watt landing lights ( its grey here in Uk ).

The flaps are PAINTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The flaps are PAINTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your pic looks like some kind of strange dual flap vane system.
That paint sure makes an optical illusion. Thanks for the clarification.

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Hi Scott,

I worked as a set designer in the film industry here in Uk so illusion is a trade mark.

Sometimes when I wake up in the morning I don't even recognize myself ! Or is it that I am just older?

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Nice work on the faux double slotted flap illusion... you had me fooled.

Stop the suspense, post a pic of the lights... turned on that is.
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Received my new yellow Reaction X today. The new nose looks great andmakes overall length90"
PST has the battery tray already installed & nose cone attachedusing just one bolt thru the tip.

Thanks again BTE & PST,
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Received my new yellow Reaction X today. The new nose looks great and makes overall length 90''
PST has the battery tray already installed & nose cone attached using just one bolt thru the tip.

Thanks again BTE & PST,
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VERY NICE!

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Hi.
2 A123 for main power supply, 2 A123 for position lights/ central flashing beacon and wing tip lights plus 2x 3Watt landing lights ( its grey here in Uk ).

The flaps are PAINTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards

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wow...you got me fooled as well but hey, let's look at that dual flaps option again....it might be a performance break-through? kind of a mix between Fowler & Junker flaps?

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For anybody looking to install an Elite Force Aviator pilot figure in their Reaction ARF, here's a quick and dirty set of instructions:

http://www.btemodels.com/rarfpop/pilotinstr.html

Pilots are available from BTE here:

http://www.btemodels.com/rarf-pilots.html
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:03 PM
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OK guys Im sold after reading all the post I am golng to order a REACTION I have a ELAN but not happy with it.So Im going to strip it down and and wait for my new airplane... Any one want to buy a ELAN...
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Hi,
here are the lights. A bit difficult to get them all to flash at the same time for the camera though. There is a bright beacon light behind the cockpit !

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Hi all...

Just started my Reaction build, had it in my hands since late April, but just getting into it now...

Its a all yellow, short nose, and maybe second to Dave, rcguys, with factory removable tail...
Going with a Jetcat P120SX, due to the favorable exchange rate when i ordered it thru the Australian distributor, Due in my hands from Germany next week...
Going with Digitech Prolink undercarrage set, and a few personal mods along the way...

Shall share my personal mods as i do them, meantime i have a question or two for the group, hope you can help me with some answers...

1. Size of the PST Smoke tank, that fits behind the 3.8ltr main tank, i need a measurement from the former back ??? so i can work out where to cut my whale hole !!! lol.

2. Main and nose undercarrage length, both PST, and Dreamworks units, from the centre of wheel axle, up to the retract block face they plug into ???

3. Wheel sizes ???

4. Subject Batterys...
Duralite, Im going with the LI-MN or lithium Manganese on the turbine ecu, think its a 3800mah, to power the kero start, and good noseweight at 245gms,
and 2 x Duralite Plus Lithium Ion rx batterys, maybe the 2 cell 2600 mah, weights at 110gms each... and running into a Powerbox brand Gemini reg set, giving me a constant 5.9 volts at the rx/servos,
So my delema...
Im thinking i CAN SAFELY CHARGE onboard, in the nose, with Duralite 0.5amp slow charger, its more a 4-6 hour charge speed, SO, WHAT DO YOU THINK ???
Im looking to avoid cutting a nose Hatch, and avoid pulling my batterys out to charge...

I had in mind the idea of a removable nosecone, much like PST have now done on the X Nose, but not sure im motivated enough to do it yet... Maybe PST will do it at sum point on the short nose ???

Also Has PST done any more on the WING COVERS talked about early this year ????????

Ok thats me for now...
In anticipation, Thank you all... Cheers Jeremy.
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Hi,
talk to Ali re your wing bags. Mine were great.
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Hey Guys I have a reaction X and realy like the quality and fit of all the parts. My question is what are the pros and cons of the speed break Im at the point of deciding weather or not to cut it out and hook it up ... any and all replys will be a great help THANKS
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Hi
check out post 765 and 767 from Ali

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I did the airbrake on mine and have used it a few times.

The only drawback to having the airbrake is a couple more hours of your time during assembly and one servo ... It will take longer AFTER the jet is done.

Do the airbrake, you'll be pleased.
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Some answers for Sonicwings...

1. 3-3/4" (95mm). Whale hole should not be needed, however.

2. PST Main Struts 4-1/2" (114mm) Main Wheels 3-5/8" dia. (92mm)
PST Nose Strut 6-7/8" (175mm) Nose Wheel 2-3/8" dia. (61mm)
Dreamworks Main Struts 4-5/8" (118mm) Main Wheels 3-1/16" dia. (78mm)
Dreamworks Nose Strut 5-3/4" (141mm) Nose Wheel 2-5/8" dia. (67mm)

I doubt that PST will do anything new with short nose version - the long nose has pretty much taken over in terms of sales.
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as Bruce stated, the whale hole is not really needed, I fly mine with a P-120 for 7 1/2 minutes wide open most flights. no issues with temps or lack of airflow. the hatch in the short nose version was fairly straight forward to cut and fit screw plates for access into the nose. this is a fairly good idea as it is near impossible to get the batteries to sit with adequate padding around the gear/brakes servos.

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