Composite ARF Tucano Build
#477
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Hi Fellows
Just wondering how people dealt with getting the seal done right, with intake and the Jetcat SPT 5. Obviously the 4mm line that they provide with the kit doesn't exactly do the job for the P 60 core turbine with the amount of ID that needs to get filled in the fibreglass intake that is included in the kit. I have tried some 3/8" OD heater type hose, but that's not big enough. I have tried bigger exhaust type hose for glow but that just seems deform the fibre glass intake. Also don't want to install something that would get swallowed up in the turbine either.
Thanks for your tips in advance.
Alan
Just wondering how people dealt with getting the seal done right, with intake and the Jetcat SPT 5. Obviously the 4mm line that they provide with the kit doesn't exactly do the job for the P 60 core turbine with the amount of ID that needs to get filled in the fibreglass intake that is included in the kit. I have tried some 3/8" OD heater type hose, but that's not big enough. I have tried bigger exhaust type hose for glow but that just seems deform the fibre glass intake. Also don't want to install something that would get swallowed up in the turbine either.
Thanks for your tips in advance.
Alan
Last edited by AKB; 03-22-2017 at 06:42 PM.
#478
Normal glow silicon fuel tube is ideal, it needs splitting with a sharp scalpel, but It should not be a problem.
Do you have a FOD on the turbine its self?
Do you have a FOD on the turbine its self?
#479
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HI Dave
Yes I have bought a tea stainer and I have always had mountable FOD screen on the SPT 5.
After reviewing a lot of photos last night of Jetcats mounted on the Tucano, I see a lot of the installs don't seem to tight seal on the tubine intake. All they seem to have is the fibre glass tube sleeve over top of turbine.
Does it need complete seal from the intake to the turbine? Can definatley see it on the Wren's, but it has smaller OD then the Jetcat.
Thanks
Yes I have bought a tea stainer and I have always had mountable FOD screen on the SPT 5.
After reviewing a lot of photos last night of Jetcats mounted on the Tucano, I see a lot of the installs don't seem to tight seal on the tubine intake. All they seem to have is the fibre glass tube sleeve over top of turbine.
Does it need complete seal from the intake to the turbine? Can definatley see it on the Wren's, but it has smaller OD then the Jetcat.
Thanks
#480
The issue is if the turbine can draw in hot air from the cowl area, a small gap does not seem to be a problem, if the tube goes over the purple cover it will draw mainly from the fuse.
Dave
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HI Dave
Yes I have bought a tea stainer and I have always had mountable FOD screen on the SPT 5.
After reviewing a lot of photos last night of Jetcats mounted on the Tucano, I see a lot of the installs don't seem to tight seal on the tubine intake. All they seem to have is the fibre glass tube sleeve over top of turbine.
Does it need complete seal from the intake to the turbine? Can definatley see it on the Wren's, but it has smaller OD then the Jetcat.
Thanks
Yes I have bought a tea stainer and I have always had mountable FOD screen on the SPT 5.
After reviewing a lot of photos last night of Jetcats mounted on the Tucano, I see a lot of the installs don't seem to tight seal on the tubine intake. All they seem to have is the fibre glass tube sleeve over top of turbine.
Does it need complete seal from the intake to the turbine? Can definatley see it on the Wren's, but it has smaller OD then the Jetcat.
Thanks
Azzam
#483
I noticed that with the turbine offset, the exhaust stack on the right is probably less than an inch from the fuse and the one on the left is much further away from the fuse at about 1.75 inches. I see now why some folks have more heating issues on the right then left. The exhaust I bought are cut straight, I was thinking of cutting the ends more of an angle to allow the exhaust to move away from the fuse more. Anyone have thoughts on this? The material is so thin, I’m not even sure how to cut without bending it… Any suggestions would be appreciate or if you know someone who makes custom.
#484
It is hard to see but I am using Tam's pipes on Marchetti and they are cut to the correct length so you get even exhausts. also the ends are cut with angle. in any case, you can cut that material easily with Lexan cutting scissor. most hobby shops have them.
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I noticed that with the turbine offset, the exhaust stack on the right is probably less than an inch from the fuse and the one on the left is much further away from the fuse at about 1.75 inches. I see now why some folks have more heating issues on the right then left. The exhaust I bought are cut straight, I was thinking of cutting the ends more of an angle to allow the exhaust to move away from the fuse more. Anyone have thoughts on this? The material is so thin, I’m not even sure how to cut without bending it… Any suggestions would be appreciate or if you know someone who makes custom.
I cut an angle in the right hand side exhaust stack to make it blow away from the fuse. I used a dremel with a cut off wheel. Used a masking tabe to establish a clear cut line and sneaked on the angle until I achived the correct one. It took me three tries to get it right and with the dremel and cutt of wheel it was very easy, fast and clean.
Azzam
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#486
Thanks guys, I think I'll try cutting them tonight. I did go look at Tamjets web and saw SPT-5 and SPT15, but no STP-10, which I'm running. Are the exhausts the same diameter as an SPT-5?
#487
Thanks guys, I think I'll try cutting them tonight. I did go look at Tamjets web and saw SPT-5 and SPT15, but no STP-10, which I'm running. Are the exhausts the same diameter as an SPT-5?
#491
SPT 5 and 10 is the same exhaust size. They should be off set lengths since TP always has side thrust
These Raven ones were made by Zimmermann for me. Also prop for the SPT-10 :-)
These Raven ones were made by Zimmermann for me. Also prop for the SPT-10 :-)
#495
We are going to try it on an SPT-10 powered version we are going to build. Its only from the Super Tucano really, but it looks cool!!
Spinner is only just large enough for the 5 cut-outs
Spinner is only just large enough for the 5 cut-outs
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#497
I mark the spinner edge on the blades with a section of tape. Make a card board template that fits the blade working from the flat backplate. One or two attempts makes a good match.
Mark the cone with 5 points and felt pen the blade cut out. Chain drill inside line and Dremel to line...
Does not take long once the template is done.
Mark the cone with 5 points and felt pen the blade cut out. Chain drill inside line and Dremel to line...
Does not take long once the template is done.
#498
With several people now using bigger turbines in their Tucanos (SPT-10, TP-60, etc....), how are you guys handling the excess heat that is produced in the turbine compartment ?
The front part of the plane is very tight already for a turbine like the SPT-5 and it tends to get hot, so have you guys drilled any new holes in the airframe in order to improve ventilation and reduce temperature ? I'm currently having problems with my SPT-5 and the factory is telling me that is due to high temperature (grease coming out from the seal in the front shaft).
The front part of the plane is very tight already for a turbine like the SPT-5 and it tends to get hot, so have you guys drilled any new holes in the airframe in order to improve ventilation and reduce temperature ? I'm currently having problems with my SPT-5 and the factory is telling me that is due to high temperature (grease coming out from the seal in the front shaft).
#500
Straighleg.... that is a huge prop. Nice.
I was told by factory that the grease leakage is induced by high temperature in the turbine area and that I need to improve ir flow in order to help reduce the surrounding temperature. Unfortunately, there is not much space in the Tucano to open new vents.
In my Marchetti I made sure to increase the size of the bottom vents so I have a very good flow of air and my turbine has never presented a problem (photo attached).
I will keep digging into the problem and see how I can open some vents that don't make the plane look ugly.
I was told by factory that the grease leakage is induced by high temperature in the turbine area and that I need to improve ir flow in order to help reduce the surrounding temperature. Unfortunately, there is not much space in the Tucano to open new vents.
In my Marchetti I made sure to increase the size of the bottom vents so I have a very good flow of air and my turbine has never presented a problem (photo attached).
I will keep digging into the problem and see how I can open some vents that don't make the plane look ugly.