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04-21-2014, 06:53 PM
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Oh...no damage...just bubbled paint. Lukey covered it with speed tape and it's better. I will get the wings repainted after Top Gun.
One friend had it happen to his with a Jet Central, the other with an SPT-5. Lukey does not have that problem with his painted Tucano but his stacks are super short...almost stubs where mine were quite long to the point it gave a fire hose effect on exhaust exit. I will see if it's better with the shorter stacks.
Here is a pic with the area taped...it seemed to do the trick.
Boli
One friend had it happen to his with a Jet Central, the other with an SPT-5. Lukey does not have that problem with his painted Tucano but his stacks are super short...almost stubs where mine were quite long to the point it gave a fire hose effect on exhaust exit. I will see if it's better with the shorter stacks.
Here is a pic with the area taped...it seemed to do the trick.
Boli
08-13-2014, 06:38 AM
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Hi all,
I am going to install a smoke system in my Tucano and need some help. How do you bend the smoke stick with out kinking it. How deep in the exhaust outlet does it go and what do you use to drill the holes in the stack.
Thank you for your help.
Marvin
I am going to install a smoke system in my Tucano and need some help. How do you bend the smoke stick with out kinking it. How deep in the exhaust outlet does it go and what do you use to drill the holes in the stack.
Thank you for your help.
Marvin
08-13-2014, 01:09 PM
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I had mine painted (in flight photo attached), and have had no problems at all with paint blistering. I am "only" using an SPT-5 though. The SPT-10 conversation is interesting, but I am not sure why anyone would want more power than the SPT-5 for this model although perhaps there are other reasons? I fly off grass and it takes off quickly and easily and has more than enough power for scale flight at mid range power settings. If any of you have flown both, I'd be interested in your comments.
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08-13-2014, 01:17 PM
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Marvin... here is my smoke install. The preheat coils are important for good smoke as the exhaust gasses are not that hot (relative to what you get on a regular jet anyway). Shane Bartlett made the coils for me - he's active on this forum and has his own Tucano. Jan (also active on this forum) used the same coils from Shane. I'm not sure why the photo rotated 90 degrees when I uploaded it, but you get the idea :-)
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08-14-2014, 03:21 AM
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Colin,
I have over 200 flights with my Tucano powered by the SPT-5 and 25 now with the SPT-10 and around 500 total flights on two different Tucanos that I am currently flying so I am somewhat experienced with them.
The -10 is about double the power of the -5. There are some related issues with converting to or installing the -10 (heat) but other than that it is pretty much straight forward. The fuel burn is about the same (because you are at reduced throttle most of the time instead of having it pinned), the weight is about the same but the performance in the vertical is spectacular if you desire. The new full scale Tucano now has double the power of the original so in a loose sense...you can now fly yours either way with the -10.
It's not for everyone but also an epic improvement if you do. I can assure you if you flew mine you would walk away from the flightline telling yourself "Hmmmmmmmmm"...
Cheers,
Beave
I have over 200 flights with my Tucano powered by the SPT-5 and 25 now with the SPT-10 and around 500 total flights on two different Tucanos that I am currently flying so I am somewhat experienced with them.
The -10 is about double the power of the -5. There are some related issues with converting to or installing the -10 (heat) but other than that it is pretty much straight forward. The fuel burn is about the same (because you are at reduced throttle most of the time instead of having it pinned), the weight is about the same but the performance in the vertical is spectacular if you desire. The new full scale Tucano now has double the power of the original so in a loose sense...you can now fly yours either way with the -10.
It's not for everyone but also an epic improvement if you do. I can assure you if you flew mine you would walk away from the flightline telling yourself "Hmmmmmmmmm"...
Cheers,
Beave
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11-21-2014, 01:39 AM
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Hello
Here is the first start on my new Tucano french scheme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8AN47Siwg Still working on the cockpit.
Best regards.
Fifou
Here is the first start on my new Tucano french scheme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8AN47Siwg Still working on the cockpit.
Best regards.
Fifou
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Hello "thread'ers" !
I am in the proccess of buying a Tucano With a Jetcat TP. I always do a lot of research before buying stuff in this price range, so also in this case. I have read the Whole thread, and there are a lot of conserns here.
Hope someone can help me and clearify this . Here are my questions:
1) Why this "eagerness" of getting as high as possible RPMs on the prop? I have noticed this also in the radial world. The truth is that radials love coarse Pitch and low rpm and steady throttle use. Do the turboprop only produce Power from 150000 to 165000 RPMs? The H/W will also last longer if you don't peak it !!!
2) I will go for a -10. Are the prop and heating problems solved?
3) Is the Stock CARF provided undercarriage good enough on grass With a heavier cockpit and two full tanks of gas and smoke fluid?
That's all,folks ! (for now)
/terje
I am in the proccess of buying a Tucano With a Jetcat TP. I always do a lot of research before buying stuff in this price range, so also in this case. I have read the Whole thread, and there are a lot of conserns here.
Hope someone can help me and clearify this . Here are my questions:
1) Why this "eagerness" of getting as high as possible RPMs on the prop? I have noticed this also in the radial world. The truth is that radials love coarse Pitch and low rpm and steady throttle use. Do the turboprop only produce Power from 150000 to 165000 RPMs? The H/W will also last longer if you don't peak it !!!
2) I will go for a -10. Are the prop and heating problems solved?
3) Is the Stock CARF provided undercarriage good enough on grass With a heavier cockpit and two full tanks of gas and smoke fluid?
That's all,folks ! (for now)
/terje
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02-19-2015, 02:16 PM
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Landing gear is up for the task and handling the aircraft on grassfields with no problem.
I run my SPT5 on std settings and think it is more than enough power.
See for your self. ;-)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X7NZsX...ature=youtu.be
I run my SPT5 on std settings and think it is more than enough power.
See for your self. ;-)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X7NZsX...ature=youtu.be
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02-20-2015, 04:07 AM
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Hei Tor ! Nice vid. The reason I want the bigger engine, is that I want to use a bigger prop. Then you get less prop noise and more turbin "noise" The weight and price are almost the same also, so why not...
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The weight and price are almost the same also, so why not... /terje
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Hi... I hope some of you guys still check this thread. I am planning on installing an electrical gear set on my Tucano, any suggestions on what electrical actuators should I use for the doors?
Behotec sell actuators called stelly1 and they are 18/9 mm in diameter and 118/148 mm in length. would they work? Here is the data sheet for those actuators.
Azzam
Behotec sell actuators called stelly1 and they are 18/9 mm in diameter and 118/148 mm in length. would they work? Here is the data sheet for those actuators.
Azzam
07-25-2016, 12:18 AM
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Colin,
I have over 200 flights with my Tucano powered by the SPT-5 and 25 now with the SPT-10 and around 500 total flights on two different Tucanos that I am currently flying so I am somewhat experienced with them.
The -10 is about double the power of the -5. There are some related issues with converting to or installing the -10 (heat) but other than that it is pretty much straight forward. The fuel burn is about the same (because you are at reduced throttle most of the time instead of having it pinned), the weight is about the same but the performance in the vertical is spectacular if you desire. The new full scale Tucano now has double the power of the original so in a loose sense...you can now fly yours either way with the -10.
It's not for everyone but also an epic improvement if you do. I can assure you if you flew mine you would walk away from the flightline telling yourself "Hmmmmmmmmm"...
Cheers,
Beave
I have over 200 flights with my Tucano powered by the SPT-5 and 25 now with the SPT-10 and around 500 total flights on two different Tucanos that I am currently flying so I am somewhat experienced with them.
The -10 is about double the power of the -5. There are some related issues with converting to or installing the -10 (heat) but other than that it is pretty much straight forward. The fuel burn is about the same (because you are at reduced throttle most of the time instead of having it pinned), the weight is about the same but the performance in the vertical is spectacular if you desire. The new full scale Tucano now has double the power of the original so in a loose sense...you can now fly yours either way with the -10.
It's not for everyone but also an epic improvement if you do. I can assure you if you flew mine you would walk away from the flightline telling yourself "Hmmmmmmmmm"...
Cheers,
Beave
Reading your words, I am tempted to pull the trigger on the SP-10 (since I don't have an engine yet). Heating issue, any recommendations to mitigate this issue? I have 2 Biela 24x14x3 props, would they work with the SP-10? Thanks in advance.
Azzam
10-25-2016, 01:52 PM
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Not CARF lighting but this one http://www.airfighter-shop.eu/epages...roducts/500776
Called Evo 7 now but couldn't find manual quickly for you
Called Evo 7 now but couldn't find manual quickly for you
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11-04-2016, 06:15 AM
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I will be flying my carf tucano with a kingtech turboprop engine. What size prop can you recommend? I have 2 biela 24*12*3 but have been reading that it is better to use 24*14*3 can someone tell me if that is so?
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I'm using a biela 24x12x3, the rpm on ground is 6000 rpm.
My problem is Kingtech say to use a propeller to do 5000 rpm on ground.
Will be a problem on gearbox using 6000 rpm on ground?
My problem is Kingtech say to use a propeller to do 5000 rpm on ground.
Will be a problem on gearbox using 6000 rpm on ground?
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Hi ! I do not know what engines you are using,but here are some examples with Jetcat stp5 and 10:
stp5: Using 24x12x3 Biela the tips broke the sound barrier, which made the prop less effective. It also made a "howling sound", A little better with 24x14x3.
stp10: To avoid this problems, I installed a 26" 3 blade Solo prop. The pitch is adjusted to approx. 20. With this setting, the rpm were close to 5 k on ground, and 5.5 k in the air. You will also get a much better "jet sound" with this lower rpm.
The best way to find the right propeller, is to use telemetri to measure the rpm in the air and to see performance. Different props with same specs can performe differently..
In general terms, I would say 6 k on ground is to much. It unloads easily to 7 k in the air.
Rule: lower rpm, better sound, better performance and less stress on gearbox.
This is my experience
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stp5: Using 24x12x3 Biela the tips broke the sound barrier, which made the prop less effective. It also made a "howling sound", A little better with 24x14x3.
stp10: To avoid this problems, I installed a 26" 3 blade Solo prop. The pitch is adjusted to approx. 20. With this setting, the rpm were close to 5 k on ground, and 5.5 k in the air. You will also get a much better "jet sound" with this lower rpm.
The best way to find the right propeller, is to use telemetri to measure the rpm in the air and to see performance. Different props with same specs can performe differently..
In general terms, I would say 6 k on ground is to much. It unloads easily to 7 k in the air.
Rule: lower rpm, better sound, better performance and less stress on gearbox.
This is my experience
/terje
11-04-2016, 10:02 AM
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If you ask me, this is crazy recommodations. The stp10 is almost twice as powerfull as the -5 , and the 24x12x3 is too small for the -5 !!! I newer listen to the factory recommodations. I find out the best solution myself, and it is NEVER what producer says....
/terje