bv packs it in ?
05-15-2008, 03:06 PM
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Not allowed to criss cross the entire skyline? my guess, Jeff Meyers was tough on anyone flying outside of boundary specific areas. He even gets on the microphone calling you out inflight and has no regard to who it is.
Seff is not really laid out well for e-jets, if you keep to the boudaries at 200MPH your pretty much the only one going to be seeing it. Sort of being at the INDY 500 on the straight away and your 2 second looksie..............
Thats my .0 having been their for 5 days straight.... will be interesting none the less.......
Seff is not really laid out well for e-jets, if you keep to the boudaries at 200MPH your pretty much the only one going to be seeing it. Sort of being at the INDY 500 on the straight away and your 2 second looksie..............
Thats my .0 having been their for 5 days straight.... will be interesting none the less.......
05-15-2008, 03:27 PM
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RE: bv packs it in ?
well that seems reasonable that you have to fly in the promoters specified boundries.
c/f , you must have enjoyed if you stayed 5 days
on the bv web site he aludes to the death of seff now that he is pissed .
supposedly like the death of jets over deland .
i always had a great time at deland and as i understood deland died a death due to the altitude ceiling and the growth of turbine models it was not a good site anymore in the corner where they had us flying .
all you other event promoters better watch out , because if you p off the man , your event will die according to the bv website
c/f , you must have enjoyed if you stayed 5 days
on the bv web site he aludes to the death of seff now that he is pissed .
supposedly like the death of jets over deland .
i always had a great time at deland and as i understood deland died a death due to the altitude ceiling and the growth of turbine models it was not a good site anymore in the corner where they had us flying .
all you other event promoters better watch out , because if you p off the man , your event will die according to the bv website
05-15-2008, 03:57 PM
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SEFF continues to grow leaps and bounds, last year 380 pilots, this year, 450 pilots. It will only grow given it's targeted group of which Jeff Meyers is keen on protecting their interests. Not to mention its held at MAC HODGES feild of dreams. Robert Belliumo?? was there the whole time I believe as well flying his JEPE models.
SEFF will hit the 500+ pilots next year without uncle bob I'm quite certain................It is now being described as a pilgrimage versus an event........I concurr, a week for me next year.
As a side note, IMHO, UB's other credible industry resource is CASTLE CREATIONS as they too were a no show to the largest electric gathering in the world given how many of their products where in use this explains it for me.
SEFF will hit the 500+ pilots next year without uncle bob I'm quite certain................It is now being described as a pilgrimage versus an event........I concurr, a week for me next year.
As a side note, IMHO, UB's other credible industry resource is CASTLE CREATIONS as they too were a no show to the largest electric gathering in the world given how many of their products where in use this explains it for me.
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RE: bv packs it in ?
WOW!
18 pages of post's at rc groups of guys telling what a great time they had and the discussion was started by the event person - jeff- who was in charge,
he was asking for comments about the event. and 99 % positive
maybe the bvm jets were not the show stoppers they are at some other events .
the event sure seems strong to me!!!!!!!!!!!!
18 pages of post's at rc groups of guys telling what a great time they had and the discussion was started by the event person - jeff- who was in charge,
he was asking for comments about the event. and 99 % positive
maybe the bvm jets were not the show stoppers they are at some other events .
the event sure seems strong to me!!!!!!!!!!!!
05-15-2008, 06:18 PM
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RE: bv packs it in ?
if you read all the diff post's and threads on rc groups , it seems as though bv made a bad impressoin of jet pilots at the event and was not following the rules for the flightline.
hopefully that was not the case.
jets don't need any neg press ,- even the dust busters.
as they say in the sports ad's about being a role model when you are high profile
hopefully that was not the case.
jets don't need any neg press ,- even the dust busters.
as they say in the sports ad's about being a role model when you are high profile
05-15-2008, 06:20 PM
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G Kerr Jr
I could care less what happens at a mass electric fly in.....450 pilots that must have been a real Chinese fire drill or cluster F#@k. Also It's been my observation that you have some kind of vendetta against BV or do you just like to stir the pot. Fire away Flame suit on.
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I could care less what happens at a mass electric fly in.....450 pilots that must have been a real Chinese fire drill or cluster F#@k. Also It's been my observation that you have some kind of vendetta against BV or do you just like to stir the pot. Fire away Flame suit on.
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05-15-2008, 06:38 PM
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RE: bv packs it in ?
seems to me the electro guys think seff is a great event and so did bv - that is why he traveled there to show his wares.he got digruntled during his flying .
if he thought it was unsafe or -a bad enviorment he would not have unloaded or flew.
yeah, i get tired of the bv stuff taking up time ,at most all events - for example at topgun we sat thru 3 or more diff bv jets being demoed daily and 2 or more of them were not even scale products.
maybe the seff guys were not impressed and maybe he did not follow the rules - but i doubt his not going back is going to hurt seff as his website indicates-
facts are facts joe
if he thought it was unsafe or -a bad enviorment he would not have unloaded or flew.
yeah, i get tired of the bv stuff taking up time ,at most all events - for example at topgun we sat thru 3 or more diff bv jets being demoed daily and 2 or more of them were not even scale products.
maybe the seff guys were not impressed and maybe he did not follow the rules - but i doubt his not going back is going to hurt seff as his website indicates-
facts are facts joe
05-15-2008, 06:43 PM
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RE: bv packs it in ?
yeah scott he was a nasty sob to me over a part i was trying to buy and treated me like **** after being a 15 year exclusve customer.
so i don't doubt he was a less than charming pilot/vendor if he was not getting his usual special treatment
so i don't doubt he was a less than charming pilot/vendor if he was not getting his usual special treatment
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RE: bv packs it in ?
Kerr Jr - Dry your tears and change your Princess panties.............everything will be okay. I dont give a damn about some electric Event anyway! Now............................where the hell is my 12X radio?
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RE: bv packs it in ?
I went last year for the first time. It is a great event for most flyers but it is totally unsuitable for larger jets, even some of the smaller HET type faster jets. The runway at that end is really not that smooth and the flying area is way too small. There is also way too much traffic in the air. I'm saving my gas money for the electric jet event at HOH this year.
05-15-2008, 07:28 PM
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RE: bv packs it in ?
patrick - you had better scedule some demo time at the gateway for my skymaster jets f86 or i will cast a voodoo spell on you and park next to you at winamac and leave my black water tank slightly dripping to create a wonderfull pooh pool for you!
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Kerr Jr- Did you say Pooh cause I smell it already! [:'(] Hope you guys can make it to the Event cause we need somebody to make fun of this year. I am willing to hand launch your Sabre if you will let me. (hope to see you and Dad..............well maybe just your Dad) just kidding 
I am willing to hand launch your Sabre if you will let me. (hope to see you and Dad..............well maybe just your Dad) just kidding
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RE: bv packs it in ?
well i can't take it anymore i have to say it-
DON"T YOU ALL THINK IT IS IRONIC BV IS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW HE WAS TREATED ??????????????????
this is the whole reason for my post
DON"T YOU ALL THINK IT IS IRONIC BV IS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW HE WAS TREATED ??????????????????
this is the whole reason for my post
05-15-2008, 09:26 PM
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SEFF is one event I will stay away from, I would consider saying that it is not worth the effort to go there to be swarmed by hundreds of pilot's who fly in a pattern that gives you no room........ at least at the AZ electric fest is more High Powered EDF Friendly, you can fly as far and as fast as you want, plus they let the EDF guys put on a Noon Time Demo, which this past January was Fun to do (thou I was Hung the F*^K Over Flying my CBM A-10 durring the demo).
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RE: bv packs it in ?
Hey Pete
Put down the bottle for a few seconds and try that again #$%@&%$# ???????
PS you should check the mirror theres alittle brown stuff on your nose you should wipe off
( sorry I couldn't resist)
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Put down the bottle for a few seconds and try that again #$%@&%$# ???????
PS you should check the mirror theres alittle brown stuff on your nose you should wipe off
( sorry I couldn't resist)
Your Pal
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RE: bv packs it in ?
ORIGINAL: rcpete2
how about the people who wanted to BVM stuff fly?
how about the people who wanted to BVM stuff fly?
If and I say "if" he wasn't following the rules.. Does it really matter who he is or what he is flying?
05-16-2008, 08:45 AM
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Ok guys I was standing 25 feet behind BV and saw it unfold.
It was BV's first flight as they got there late (4:00 pm). The sport area was busy as it was the best time of the day to fly.
BV was asked to move his flight path further out as his upwind line would take to the back edge of the center flying area.
The air boss asked him to angle his flight path further out. I think BV was trying to adjust his flight path but it is hard to judge the angle. The air boss made a second request that could have been handled differently and BV reacted to being yelled at while flying his jet as ANY of us would have. I think the whole situation could have been managed better if the air boss would have quietly asked BV's spotter, Dustin to advise BV that he was flying along the back side of adjacent flight space. Remember the back side of the flight space was over 200 feet from the pilot stations so I'm not sure what the REAL issue was.
In BV's defense I'm sure after driving 8 hours and then during his first flight that was made within 30 minutes of his arrival he was somewhat caught off guard. I also think BV could have reacted differently too.
If you have never been to Mac Hodge's field you cannot appreciate has nice the facility is. At any event that has this many pilots there is always a risk of flying with this many people in the air.
BV did not ask for exclusive air space, he flew with the masses and for that I give him credit.
I was looking forward to see the F-80 fly and then seeing the 16S and 12S Electra's fly side by side.
It was BV's first flight as they got there late (4:00 pm). The sport area was busy as it was the best time of the day to fly.
BV was asked to move his flight path further out as his upwind line would take to the back edge of the center flying area.
The air boss asked him to angle his flight path further out. I think BV was trying to adjust his flight path but it is hard to judge the angle. The air boss made a second request that could have been handled differently and BV reacted to being yelled at while flying his jet as ANY of us would have. I think the whole situation could have been managed better if the air boss would have quietly asked BV's spotter, Dustin to advise BV that he was flying along the back side of adjacent flight space. Remember the back side of the flight space was over 200 feet from the pilot stations so I'm not sure what the REAL issue was.
In BV's defense I'm sure after driving 8 hours and then during his first flight that was made within 30 minutes of his arrival he was somewhat caught off guard. I also think BV could have reacted differently too.
If you have never been to Mac Hodge's field you cannot appreciate has nice the facility is. At any event that has this many pilots there is always a risk of flying with this many people in the air.
BV did not ask for exclusive air space, he flew with the masses and for that I give him credit.
I was looking forward to see the F-80 fly and then seeing the 16S and 12S Electra's fly side by side.