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Old 09-27-2008, 07:09 PM
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Default Bearings and shaft setups for all-flying stab?

Hi guys,

I've done some looking around here, on Tam's site and on Dreamworks, and so far have not found a separately offered shaft and bearing setup for an all-flying stab.

I am gathering parts for a build of the Mark Frankel Vigilante kit (an old RCM plan, Laser Design Services short-kit), and I am looking for someone who offers these parts separately. I've seen some very nicely done examples of this on the Yellow Aircraft kits and the Tam kits .. and I'll call them next week to see if they will sell ala carte .. but wondering if anyone here as experience or advice to offer.

FWIW, the Vigilante not only has all-flying stabs, but an all-flying rudder/fin as well (the original design has a fixed fin, but I'll make if movable .. cool and to follow the AMA rules)

Anyone know how to get in touch with Mark, I am sure he'd be amused we are still captivated by his design!

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Default RE: Bearings and shaft setups for all-flying stab?

some nose gear steerable gear mounts from larger size aircraft have worked in the past for me. then a music wire L shape embedded in the stab/fin and a suitable sized steering arm to link it with.
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Default RE: Bearings and shaft setups for all-flying stab?

Jetlegend offer a rather nice setup, check there site for what you need.

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Check here. http://www.rcjetmodels.com/index.php...d&productId=75
Old 09-28-2008, 06:39 AM
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Heres a photo of the JetLegend F20 elevator mechanism.
Dual ball bearing & anti rotational pin, CNC metalwork.
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Default RE: Bearings and shaft setups for all-flying stab?

Ya, pictures all over the internet. I called at least 6 different manufacturers, and three different sales people, that product does not exist, you can not order one, and even if someone takes your order, they can not deliver it.

PROVE ME WRONG, because I tried over and over and over again, and was never able to get a pair.
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Dave McQ,
Try JetLegends web site they are showing a complete setup for $70 two pieces & rods.
Under accessories F18.
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Default RE: Bearings and shaft setups for all-flying stab?

Been there done that, even tried jetlegend dealers, no luck, please let me know if anyone finds differently! Again, that site has great pictures of what I have wanted for over a year!!
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Hi guys:
I designed a ducted fan RA5C version of the Vigilante and my plans were published in January 1997 Flying Models.
It did have full flying tail surfaces including the rudder. I used a very simple needle bearing support system for the hinge points. The proto type was flown for many years in both Colorado Springs and in Daytona beach area which included Florida Jets.
This proto type is still in flying condition but has been put in retirement while I have been working on a turbine version.
My original design did use a lot of info from Frank Fenalli who I spoke to personally as well as design input from the late Ivan Munninghoff.
I have sold about a dozen kits of this design from my original molds.
If you need further info e-mail me thru RCU.
Hope this helps.
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Default RE: Bearings and shaft setups for all-flying stab?

Hi guys:
I would like to correct some inf on my last message and that is I spoke to Mark Frankel who designed the A3J version with twin DF. Frank Fenalli was the publisher of the Flying Model plans.
Sorry for the error!!

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