Honda HA-1 business jet
01-26-2009, 03:54 AM
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Honda HA-1 business jet
Hello,
on my Google-search for the Honda business jet, I landed first in this sub forum:
[link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6466819/tm.htm[/link]
First post I wrote is #21.
Because I want to equip this plane with two Lambert microturbines, I changed to here.
Sorry for my english, I´m out of training but I´ll inform you of the next steps if you are interested.
Here are some pictures from the works still done and the turbine dummy (one with autostart, one with handstart)
Peter
on my Google-search for the Honda business jet, I landed first in this sub forum:
[link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6466819/tm.htm[/link]
First post I wrote is #21.
Because I want to equip this plane with two Lambert microturbines, I changed to here.
Sorry for my english, I´m out of training but I´ll inform you of the next steps if you are interested.
Here are some pictures from the works still done and the turbine dummy (one with autostart, one with handstart)
Peter
01-26-2009, 05:58 AM
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
I for one would like to see more!
I wont say anything about your English if you do the same for my Deutsch
Mein Deutsche sprechen sind nicht sehr gut, viele jahr ich in schule was.
I wont say anything about your English if you do the same for my Deutsch
Mein Deutsche sprechen sind nicht sehr gut, viele jahr ich in schule was.
01-31-2009, 03:13 AM
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
Hi,
did some more works. Hope I can finish the wing mounts and glue the elevator and rudder on the fuselage this weekend.
The Servo for elevator is now in the inside, you only see the servo horn, the retracts fit good, hope I get the struts soon.
Peter
did some more works. Hope I can finish the wing mounts and glue the elevator and rudder on the fuselage this weekend.
The Servo for elevator is now in the inside, you only see the servo horn, the retracts fit good, hope I get the struts soon.
Peter
01-31-2009, 09:41 AM
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
ORIGINAL: slevin1
Airforce One,
More pics please I love your project & I have this plane. What it the web site for the micro turbines?
Saul
Airforce One,
More pics please I love your project & I have this plane. What it the web site for the micro turbines?
Saul
http://www.lambert-modellturbinen.de/
The Kolibri is a real miniature gas turbine engine that operates on the same principles as the big paradigms. It suits exceptionally well for powering scale jet aircraft models of extremely small size and low weight.
Technical Specifications:
Thrust: 15N (1.5kp) at 243,000 RPM
Weight (engine alone): 200g
System weight incl. accessories and fuel for 8 minutes flight duration: ca. 750g
Dimensions: 55mm diameter, 125mm length
RPM: 95,000 to 243,000
Residual thrust at idle: ca. 2N (0.2kp)
Fuels: kerosene, JetA1, paraffine, each blended with 5% Aeroshell 500
Consumption at full power: ca. 65ml/min
Exhaust gas temperature at full power: ca. 680°C
Pressure ratio: 2.2
Air mass flow: 0.05kg/s
Exhaust gas velocity: ca. 330m/s
Starting: semi-automatic with external blower and LPG for combutor pre-heat
Control system: FADEC with RPM and EGT supervision
Fuel System: electric gear type pump and vaporizing combustor
Package Contents:
T32 Kolibri Turbine engine with RPM and EGT sensors and engine mount
Fuel pump with wiring harness
Fuel solenoid valve
Manually controlled gas valve
NIMH accu with 6 or 7 cells 350 -1000 mAh or LiPo with 2 cells 800mAh
Check valve for LPG
Quick release connectors for fuel and LPG
Tubing 3 and 4mm diameter
Fuel filter
Electronic engine control device (FADEC)
Hand data terminal
Startup blower 12VDC (car battery or lead-gel-accu)
Pricing:
2499€ incl. 19% VAT plus shipping
2100€ excl. VAT (export) plus shipping
you may spend some serious cash on two!
01-31-2009, 08:11 PM
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
Hello Saul,
for the rudder servo, it´s planned to use a HS-56HB. Today I`ll find out, whats the best position is imho.
Then I´post more pics but I´m very buisy so there isn´t much time left for my hobby
There is another Site for microturbine Jets too, but it´s only in german.
[link=http://www.kolibri-jets.de]Kolibri-Jets[/link]
Peter
for the rudder servo, it´s planned to use a HS-56HB. Today I`ll find out, whats the best position is imho.
Then I´post more pics but I´m very buisy so there isn´t much time left for my hobby
There is another Site for microturbine Jets too, but it´s only in german.
[link=http://www.kolibri-jets.de]Kolibri-Jets[/link]
Peter
02-01-2009, 09:24 AM
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
ORIGINAL: airforce-one
Hello Saul,
for the rudder servo, it´s planned to use a HS-56HB. Today I`ll find out, whats the best position is imho.
Then I´post more pics but I´m very buisy so there isn´t much time left for my hobby
There is another Site for microturbine Jets too, but it´s only in german.
[link=http://www.kolibri-jets.de]Kolibri-Jets[/link]
Peter
Hello Saul,
for the rudder servo, it´s planned to use a HS-56HB. Today I`ll find out, whats the best position is imho.
Then I´post more pics but I´m very buisy so there isn´t much time left for my hobby
There is another Site for microturbine Jets too, but it´s only in german.
[link=http://www.kolibri-jets.de]Kolibri-Jets[/link]
Peter
The HS-125 wing servos has been know to strip gears (they are very small), not sure if it is a good fit for a critical flight surface such as the elevator.
Here are the torque specs and the description for the Hitec HS-56
Stall Torque (4.8V): 14 oz/in. (1kg.cm)
Stall Torque (6.0V): 16 oz/in. (1.2kg.cm)
The Hitec HS-56HB continues the Hitec tradition of affordable performance. Featuring precision components that have been engineered to provide long lasting trouble free service. The HS-56HB is the perfect choice for any micro application from indoor R/C and hand launch gliders, to ultra small electric Park and Yard flyers, Speed 400 and 1/2A powered
aircraft.
Here are the torque specs for the HS-125
Stall Torque (4.8V): 41.66 oz/in. (3kg.cm)
Stall Torque (6.0V): 48.6 oz/in. (3.5kg.cm)
I like the project, keep the photos comming
02-03-2009, 07:04 AM
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
Hi,
made a little mistake. I meant the HS-65HB for the rudder. It is very small and I think it is used only for start an landing.
The HS-125 is more then strong enough for the elevator. The Honda is for dynamic flights and not for hard 3D or high speed.
The HS-125 is very often used in my Kolibri models an I´d never had any problems.
Now the tubes for the wingmount are glued, tonight I´ll glue the vertical and the horizontal stabilizer on the fuselage.
After that the nacels can be fixed and the turbine mounts can be prepared.
Peter
made a little mistake. I meant the HS-65HB for the rudder. It is very small and I think it is used only for start an landing.
The HS-125 is more then strong enough for the elevator. The Honda is for dynamic flights and not for hard 3D or high speed.
The HS-125 is very often used in my Kolibri models an I´d never had any problems.
Now the tubes for the wingmount are glued, tonight I´ll glue the vertical and the horizontal stabilizer on the fuselage.
After that the nacels can be fixed and the turbine mounts can be prepared.
Peter
02-07-2009, 02:20 PM
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
Uhh, bad news.
The by the manufacturer planned compound of the two elevator blades does not work. It depends on the angle of the two blades, can´t explain in english.
But if you try to move the blades you feel a resistance. If you look at the picture, may be you can see where the problem is (angle of the blades).
To get a good solution, I try to use a second servo (one for each blade) and separate the blades.
The other picture is, how I fixed the rudder-servo (it is a HS-81 that I found in my collection).
Peter
The by the manufacturer planned compound of the two elevator blades does not work. It depends on the angle of the two blades, can´t explain in english.
But if you try to move the blades you feel a resistance. If you look at the picture, may be you can see where the problem is (angle of the blades).
To get a good solution, I try to use a second servo (one for each blade) and separate the blades.
The other picture is, how I fixed the rudder-servo (it is a HS-81 that I found in my collection).
Peter
02-07-2009, 04:54 PM
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
Hi Saul,
the problem is solved. I glued a second HS-125 with silikone on the other. The other side of the servo I´ll glue on the cover of the servo cutting if it is necessary.
If I use silicone, I can open the cutting again and can change a servo in case of damage if the plane isn´t destroyed from the damaged servo
Tomorrow I post a pic.
Peter
the problem is solved. I glued a second HS-125 with silikone on the other. The other side of the servo I´ll glue on the cover of the servo cutting if it is necessary.
If I use silicone, I can open the cutting again and can change a servo in case of damage if the plane isn´t destroyed from the damaged servo
Tomorrow I post a pic.
Peter
02-08-2009, 03:03 PM
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
Hello,
here are the promised pics.
The compound of the two servos is very strong so that I can use only the foil to close the cutting.
Hope the problem ist solved, that if you want to fly a loop and the airplane makes a roll
Peter
here are the promised pics.
The compound of the two servos is very strong so that I can use only the foil to close the cutting.
Hope the problem ist solved, that if you want to fly a loop and the airplane makes a roll
Peter
03-06-2009, 03:27 AM
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Oh, I´m sorry, no new pics.
I was very buisy for the last time. Hope next week there is time enough to continue.
I only glued the vertical stabilizer to the fuselage. The fuselage is a little bit like a banana, the stabilizer is a little bit like a banana, so it was not really easy to find a good looking and fitting position. [
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Peter
I was very buisy for the last time. Hope next week there is time enough to continue.
I only glued the vertical stabilizer to the fuselage. The fuselage is a little bit like a banana, the stabilizer is a little bit like a banana, so it was not really easy to find a good looking and fitting position. [
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RE: Honda HA-1 business jet
Hello, here i am again.
Did some little works. Last week the gearstruts from Behotec arrived, today I found a little bit time to fix them.
Don´t know if I can do more until the 18th of April. At this weekend we have our 2nd Lambert-Turbine-Meeting in our club near Ramstein/Kaiserslautern and I have a lot to do with organisation.
All visitors and Pilots (also without a Lambert turbine) are welcome.
The homepage is (only in German) www.msc-glantal.de
Bye
Peter
Did some little works. Last week the gearstruts from Behotec arrived, today I found a little bit time to fix them.
Don´t know if I can do more until the 18th of April. At this weekend we have our 2nd Lambert-Turbine-Meeting in our club near Ramstein/Kaiserslautern and I have a lot to do with organisation.
All visitors and Pilots (also without a Lambert turbine) are welcome.
The homepage is (only in German) www.msc-glantal.de
Bye
Peter
