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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    So it looks like there may be a rational for using very high powered servos on the stabs...? I like the brushless motors used by Futaba in the BLS series. Futaba states that the 451 and 452 are "car" servos but they are tough and work great in heli's. The same spec "airplane" BLS servos cost a lot more. They have nice tight gear trains for MG servos. The 6030's are pretty high power servos, the Futaba 9156/9157 are about the same price as the JR's. I agree on a decent, robust, MG steering servo

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    After several months of not being able to Maiden my Hawk. It finally happened today.

    I used all the parameters that Dave Wilshire has given us on this thread and his manual supplied with the kit.

    Never touched any of my trims, plane flew flawlessly. Perfect landing. (walking pace no wind)

    4 of my turbine buddies stood there with their mouths open. All they could comment on was how the plane flew like it was on rails and how well it showed up in the sky.

    It was worth the wait for me to finally get it in the air.

    Dave you really have the numbers zero'd in on this one.

    What a great flying machine.

    Stan

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Great to hear Stan. Congrats. I hope to maiden mine next weekend.


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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Lucky! I love to hear another positive flight report.

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Marty, if it fly's like mine did you will have no problem and have a big smile on your face the rest of the day.

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Stan

    Super, I'm glad everything worked for you. I've test flown plenty and they have all been a pleasure.

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Hi Stan

    Nice to hear you got the first flight in! Where's the video/pics?

    Will try and give you a ring later when times overlap

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread


    ORIGINAL: fireblade5437

    Hi Stan

    Nice to hear you got the first flight in! Where's the video/pics?

    Will try and give you a ring later when times overlap

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    Hi Alan,

    Bet you never thought it would happen.

    Sorry no video, only a picture of me with the big smile on my face after the Maiden.

    Speak to you soon

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Congrats, Stan! Nice scheme too!
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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread


    ORIGINAL: dubd

    Congrats, Stan! Nice scheme too!
    Thanks Dantley,

    I know what you mean, both of us have the same paint scheme

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Stan

    You need to add a copy hoop at the least!

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread


    ORIGINAL: Dave Wilshere

    Stan

    You need to add a copy hoop at the least!

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    I know. I need to locate some thin plastic material to use. I think Dantley mentioned in an earlier post he used white tape.

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    yes, i used white vinyl tape and it worked well.
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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Didn't someone earlier in the thread say they had a pattern posted somewhere for the hoop?

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    It was me saying I can fax one! I don't do scanning and electronic stuff, buy can feed a pattern through a fax machine. I'm sure someone clever could trace, scan and post!

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    I did the tape thing like Dub. It was 3M electrical from Home Depot. My son bought it for his bicycle to hold the origainal handlebar tape on. It is an off white which seems to be close to the scale white. Looks ok.

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread


    ORIGINAL: Dave Wilshere

    It was me saying I can fax one! I don't do scanning and electronic stuff, buy can feed a pattern through a fax machine. I'm sure someone clever could trace, scan and post!

    Dave
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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Yo Afterburner, tell us again which cockpit tub/pilot are you using?

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    ORIGINAL: husafreak

    Yo Afterburner, tell us again which cockpit tub/pilot are you using?
    It's the Skymaster version. The pilot may be from Skymaster also. I bought the cockpit and pilot from "major woody" who was a major contributor to this forum. In his comeback into jets, he lost his Skymaster hawk early on after having rudder issues. He decided to get out of jets again and I bought the slightly damaged cockpit from him. I believe he got back into giant scale warbirds and frequents that forum.

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Thanks, I searched a bit this morning and found it. Honestly from the pictures I can't tell the difference between the Skymaster and Derjet Hawk cockpits. It is pretty funny how everything is a different scale. We have the Skymaster Hawk at 1:4.75 and the Carf/FeiBao Hawks at 1:6.5 all using the Skymaster or Derjet cockpit which is 1:5.5. Then the Skymaster pilot figure is listed at 1:5 dressed or a plastic mold at 1:5.25. Kind of entertaining really! But thanks everyone for posting pics, obviously the Hawk looks great with either cockpit, they both fit, and pilots look better with clothes on! The pilot with the black "Display Scheme" flight suit was the bomb. Speaking of the Display Scheme, how is it that Skymaster, FeiBao, and Hobby King can all get the color scheme right but not CARF? Oh yeah, Sport Jet! It may well look better in flight...

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    Skymaster has a 1:5:5 Hawk, hence the 1:5:5 cockpit. The 1:4 cockpit in my 1:4 SM Hawk will not fit in a CARF Hawk. Neither will the 1:4 scale pilots.
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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    That does explain the 1:5.5 cockpit.

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    The CARF Hawk is 1:5.5 scale.....

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    RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread

    ok Guys the Hawk has arrived! Union Jack scheme. I'm ready to order the servos for it. I have narrowed it down to 2 servos on my list: the JR8711, and the Futaba S9075SB Digital HT S.Bus Programmable Servo, I'm really wanting to go the Futaba route since that's what i use for radio (18mz) but haven't owned a high end Futaba or JR servo i would like some advice from you guys who has used futaba servos. also had the hitec 7955tg on the list since I've used them on prop planes before but for the Full flying stab the Hawk has I want to go a bit stronger than the Hitec.
    here is the specs for the S9075SB futaba servo.
    Torque: 425 oz-in (31 kg-cm) at 6.0V
    Speed: 0.14 sec/60° at 6.0V
    Weight: 2.5oz (71g

    let me know what you think..


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