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Old 01-25-2015, 04:44 PM
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I need some help friend.
I'm flying my hawk end i am in my fifh flight. All is very good but Its seems to me they are requiring lots of up trim. I took some pictures so you can see the horizontal tail.
CG is at 195 mm and the turbine is instaled so the thrust vector lokks like the blue line.
Any comment?
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:37 AM
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You can go back to 205mm on the balance, but elevator trim looks almost perfect for your balance. I have 4-4.5mm underside of the tailplane to the rear cover split line. This is correct

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Old 01-26-2015, 02:57 PM
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Dave,

Just had a look in the manual again that says exactly what you said.
Sorry for asking this..
Old 01-26-2015, 03:03 PM
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Kinda figures! I wrote the manual
Not a problem anyway.

Best Regards

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Old 02-06-2015, 12:13 AM
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Hi David or anyone
Do you know if it is possible to fit electric retracts, wheel brakes to the hawk perhaps using the carf struts.
I am trying to get away from air retracts.
Old 02-06-2015, 12:28 AM
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Not sure if Airtech Germany are doing electric drives yet...but nothing would make me change! Latest set of electric gear I had here were for a 2.6 Futura and it took an hour just to get them to operate a full cycle. Most of these electric gear guys still have a long way to go IMO

The thread starter still has the original gear, I have changed the nose O rings end of last year and I had a minor issue with one of the mains back in 2010, other than that I have done zero maintenance...
Old 02-06-2015, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawkflyer
Hi David or anyone
Do you know if it is possible to fit electric retracts, wheel brakes to the hawk perhaps using the carf struts.
I am trying to get away from air retracts.
I am a massive fan of electric retracts and they go in anything I can possibly put them in - the Electron units are by far the best all rounders in my opinion. Have sold quite a few CARF Hawks recently and worked closely with one customer to try and get an electric retract solution. We found it wasn't going to be entirely practical or cost effective with off the shelf parts in this case so the customer defaulted back to air. In most cases however it ends up being the same cost or sometimes less cost than an air system with electronic valves etc.

I am determined to make it happen so will have another look on the next batch of Hawk kits we get in - electric is an absolute no brainer where possible, I have many hundreds of flights on my own jets with Electron units without the slightest issue - ever.
Old 02-06-2015, 02:04 AM
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Electric would be the way to go if I had tomfl
it again
rlectrons are really the best but for now therr is no good solution

airtech was converting the originals to electric but cost is way up there of almost 2 sets
so I would not do that
Old 02-06-2015, 07:20 AM
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Colin, you are funny...
Old 02-06-2015, 08:02 AM
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Thanks Dave - you are a sweetie
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Hi everyone,

I'm currently refurbishing my Hawk, whilst I'm waiting for the paint masks I thought I'd add some rivets but can't find any 3 views that show the kind of detail I'm after... Can any one help ?

Here re are some photos of what's been going on in my workshop (-:
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:19 AM
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Old 02-23-2015, 03:53 AM
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:56 AM
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Old 02-23-2015, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Smailes
Hi everyone,

I'm currently refurbishing my Hawk, whilst I'm waiting for the paint masks I thought I'd add some rivets but can't find any 3 views that show the kind of detail I'm after... Can any one help ?
Looking great there mate! Nice to see some extra details on the model.

I spent quite a long time searching high and low on the net looking for 3 view drawings that showed panel lines and rivet details on the hawk and came up empty handed, when I was detailing my Flyfly foamie Hawk.

These are a the best I found, together with plastic models of the Hawk. It wasn't good enough to burn rivets in but at least with the foamies smaller size the tail cone raised rivets and panel lines was enough.

I'm working on my Skymaster hawk at the moment and needed some more details about certain parts of the hawk. Just realised that the biggest airshow in Oz is on this weekend so I'm flying down to Melbourne in a few days time with a modelling buddy of mine because the RAAF will have at least one of their Hawks there so hope to get one or two pic's of it.

All the best

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Old 02-23-2015, 07:35 AM
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Dave,

Are the dummy underwing flap fairings still available? Looking for a set to add to my SM X-treme Hawk.

Thanks

Paul
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Cheers Dave and Dave,

I found a really good walk around of an Ozzy Hawk, Will post the link if I can find it again

Matt
Old 02-23-2015, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JSF-TC
Dave,

Are the dummy underwing flap fairings still available? Looking for a set to add to my SM X-treme Hawk.

Thanks

Paul
Paul

Not at this time, mould was never meant for series production and we have done 30 sets now. New moulds are in the process though..hey Matt ;-)

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Dave,

Thanks.

Please post here when they do become available again. Would love a set.

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Old 02-23-2015, 11:54 AM
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New moulds will be here soon (-:
Old 02-24-2015, 06:26 AM
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Finally cleared some other jobs so looking at the EDF Hawk again. Tail tube is now in and that allows me to work forward.
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Old 02-24-2015, 09:41 AM
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I was wondering what had happened to this project! Looking forward to the maiden flight impressions!
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Likewise, can't wait to see how this turns out.
Old 02-24-2015, 11:29 AM
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Just been too busy with other things, I'm having a big push to find time on this and the Habu 32x, so I'm clear for some new incoming boxes!
Wanted to use a UP3 valve as I love them, but two JetTronic valves are much lighter, so going the same way as my original RA Hawk that has not had many air issues since built in 2009.
Having decided all these things I can crack on.
Old 02-24-2015, 12:11 PM
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Top stuff Dave, appreciate all the info you provide. Do you think it's possible to convert an airframe from turbine to Edf? Got my eye on one.

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