RC_MAN

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Hello friends ( you too Angus, grin)

I have a Jet Cat Titan and a Futaba 12FG 2.4 radio. I would loke to try competing at the next World Jet Masters in Ohio. Can someone recommend a good plane for first time competitor. I don't expect to win but I like to learn and have fun.

Thanks again.

Peter Doupnik
Ontario, Canada

Roger Shipley

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Peter you have probably noted on: [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8461831/tm.htm]JetWorldMasters@AirForceMuseum[/link]
that Peter Rutiman won the 13.5kg class with an F-15.
Sure delighted that you Canadians are returning to the competition!

drdoom

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Build a skymaster F-4

crhammond

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I'm in the same boat looking for a good first-time entry. Someone planted the seed in my brain to scratch build a serious CF-100 for 2015 and that idea has seriously taken root. But this time around a good kit which can be built in one winter (this winter so I can get tons and tons of practice flying in) is in order.

I really like the Fouga Magister and have been eyeing the AD 1/4 scale one since last summer. I love how they look and have read they fly great... but I subsequently heard from somone I trust that there were structural issues with them. I would like to know if anyone has any information on this - is it really so? It certainly appears to be quite scale and there is lots of good documentation about.

Other options I'm considering:
AD F16, AD Rafale, Yellow F-15... because I have good documentation on those already.
Something older and less complicated would be ideal. I already have a small SM F-86 and JL Hawk butthey arefar, far,farfrom scale.

Cost is a consideration so I am looking at the 13.5kg class or planes that are larger but more affordable like the Fouga. The big Hawks/F16/A-10's etc are way out of my price range right now.

I really hope the Fouga is a solid airframe as I think it would be a great entry for a first time.

I have a feeling we're going to need a team trials in Canada as we are likely to get way more than 6 pilots wanting to go... just a sense I am getting. I think3 folks have publicly said they want to go and there are probably twice that many quietly already building (I know of 3.)... so we're already over is my guess.

Ron S

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Perhaps he'd be better off entering that in the World Jet Assembler's contest...[sm=71_71.gif]
I'm sure there are lots of aircraft out there that can be entered with neat Canadian schemes. F-18s, F-104s, Snowbirds... Arrows! [8D]

crhammond

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Peter - check out http://www.avonds.com/F-15C%20ARF.htm

If I could afford it thats what I would do. $7 grand CAD with all the options, good 3-views with it, tons and tons of documentation available, all the scale details and it has already won before...

smchale

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CRH, I'd love to hear about your CF-100 ideas (perhaps via PM). I started preliminary dwgs to create one myself. Unique aircraft rarely modelled. Plus being Canadian, I'm drawn to CF aircraft and schemes.

Btw, Phillip Avonds is developing a large Fouga (another great project) that may fit your requirments. Shoot him a note, always been very pleasant to deal with in my experience.
http://www.avonds.com/ click the link on the homepage.

Also, more on it here: http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/forum/...TID=13264&PN=1

Silver182

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A good scale version of this one will catch the eye of everyone!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8TIvaz49DU

Lee

rcjetsaok

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Where is the Jet World Masters going to be held in 2010 ????

Danno

crhammond

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Sean,

I ordered my Fouga from Phil yesterday ... got on the list anyway. I started on my documentation - justwaiting on the owner to get back to me if I can get/go take pictures.Phil's design is astounding... its going to be really great.
My backup plan (in case I couldn't fund the Fouga) was to do a CF-105 but after emailing with Phil I decided to just go for it on the Fouga.

I was not planning to do a CF-100but a friend suggested it would be an excellent subject for WJM being vintage and never done before. There is a restored one in the museum 15 mins from my house... I still plan to do it but the Fouga will come first. After that I will go camp out inthe museum and gather information. I'll share some pics - I'm going to the museum next week to snap a few.

Now all the hard work starts...

gooseF22

TRials for the 2011 WJM are at Litchfield the week in between DOGS and R66.. right after labor day..

olnico

No where.

rcjetsaok

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I've been there !!!! Lots of neat stuff happens in no where !!!!

Thanks !!! 2011 Ohio it is !!!!

Danno

Roger Shipley

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Beautiful just beautiful guys that is the best belly laugh I've had in weeks.....I'm still got tears in my eyes.
Thanks I really need that right now ! ! !! Dam I can't stop laughing..........

vetagator

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soda burns when it shoots out your nose! That is too funny! I wanna go to no where.

Gordon W

Here are a couple of Fouga aerobatic routines I found listed on the internet a while back whilst I was researching the Magister as a possible project. I think they were flown by the Belgian AF aerobatic team. Plenty to practise there, should look nice, and I like the detail of the airspeeds and "g" loadings.

FOUGA GOOD WEATHER DISPLAY
1. Low take-off, zoom to high 180deg turn
2. Level 270° turn away
3. ¼ clover leaf, exit upwind display axis
4. ½ roll
5. Inverted split-S
6. 4-point roll
7. ½ Cuban-8
8. Looping
9. Split-S
10. Slow roll
11. ½ Cuban-8
12. Barrel roll left exit 90° away from public
13. High turn (roll) derry turn
14. Inverted turn
15. High turn (roll) derry turn
16. 3 consecutive rolls ( “Rototo” )
17. Split-S
18. Inverted pass
19. ½ Cuban-8
20. Farewell pass / waggle wings
21. ¾ of a loop, exit 90° away from crowd
22. Derry turn to position inner downwind
23. Final to land.


FOUGA ADVERSE WEATHER DISPLAY
1. Low take-off, zoom to high 180deg turn
2. Level 360° turn
3. Roll to inverted
4. 60°/240° high turn ( derry turn )
5. 4-point roll
6. 60°/240° high turn ( derry turn )
7. Slow roll
8. 60°/240° high turn ( derry turn )
9. Barrel roll left, exit 90° away from public
10. Derry turn
11. Inverted turn
12. High turn right
13. 3 consecutive rolls ( “Rototo” )
14. 60°/240° high turn ( derry turn )
15. Inverted pass
16. 60°/240° high turn ( derry turn )
17. Farewell pass / waggle wings
18. 270° level turn to face the public
19. High turn to position inner downwind
20. Final to land

Durations : 10.5min from release brakes to exit
Average speed during display : 90 kt to 280 kt
Average G’s : -3 G’s / + 5.5 G’s

Hope this helps, and good luck at the WJM.

Gordon

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Gday Pete, I reckon a JMP T-33 in Canuk colours would be just about ideal

crhammond

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Hey that's really cool, thanks! We have to fly from prescribed manuvers but this might help me match up some actual airshow ones with the IJMC list.

CHEERS!

Chris.

crhammond

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I know of twovery nice Candaian scheme T-33's inEdmonton ... from two very good scale pilots. I am hoping they will try out for the team too.