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JackL 06-26-2011 05:04 PM

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Here are a few shots of how I had to modify the engine mount rails and the bypass in order to get the Rhino installed with the recommended distance between the turbine and bell mouth (1.5"). I also used maple blocks for the engine mount rail blocks and the pipe mounting blocks.

JackL 06-26-2011 05:07 PM

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a few more shots...

FenderBean 06-26-2011 05:22 PM

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Cool who told you 1.5 inches for the rhino? I am going to beef up my mount as well, do you plan on gluing yours as well or just the screws? I noticed the turbine was forward on the mount why did you chose that location? I have not even sat mine in the bird yet so these question may get answered then lol.

JackL 06-26-2011 05:44 PM

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Here is the thread on recommended distance: www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8341245/anchors_8351347/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#8351347

Iwill probably just screw them down, as it is easier to access the rear fuel tanks with the rails removed. The location of the pipe is fixed, so the turbine had to be moved forward in order to keep the correct distance to the bellmouth. The bypass will have to be cut down and modified somewhat in order to fit. No big deal, really.

JackL 06-26-2011 06:08 PM

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When I mounted the rudder servo, I used the supplied ball links on one end and used H9 ball links on the other end, in place of the normal links. This gives the linkage a nice slop-free feel.

JackL 06-26-2011 06:13 PM

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When setting up the horizontals, make sure you use the 8 long screws (4 in each bracket) that go all the way through the brackets. Mine were supplied with short screws already installed, and 8 long screws in a bag that you will actually use during the installation.

FenderBean 06-26-2011 07:10 PM

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Thanks for the pics, I was going change my rudder to the same type of setup like the nose gear. Okay I will just screw mine in as well I will just add more blocks for screws. Do you think we need servo horns that big? I was considering going smaller. Also I noticed you used the rubber grommets on your servos, I thought with jets you don't use them?

jetspud 06-26-2011 07:19 PM

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I got mine about a month ago.... Same squadron different color camo....

bcovish 06-26-2011 07:29 PM

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David, you gonna have it ready for the Southwest in Waco??

jetspud 06-26-2011 07:49 PM

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One more

jetspud 06-26-2011 07:50 PM

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Not sure Bob... I will try but not to sure


david

FenderBean 06-26-2011 10:07 PM

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#17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1eJuGaZfzM

#18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTc6yMbvz8U

#19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_anAjDnXfc

#20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELxFxGoDygM
Installing the elevator servos and control horns and parts overview

FenderBean 06-26-2011 10:27 PM

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#21 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs1NHEmSH-o

#22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebEpQcuLj0Q

Rudder install

Wap4life 06-27-2011 03:17 AM

RE: Fly Eagle 1/6 scale F-16 Build Thread
 
hey fender was that a LSU t-shirt u had on?  

Keep up the good work.

FalconWings 06-27-2011 05:21 AM

RE: Fly Eagle 1/6 scale F-16 Build Thread
 
I've got to say that the locking mechanism on the landing gear does not make mechanical sense. By placing the lock directly on the cylinder piston, you are transfering all of the bending moment from the strut to the air cylinder/piston. I mean, how long until it deforms and starts leaking?

I guess pilots with the most airframe time can pitch in on that, but it does not seem robust at all.
In the mean time, try landing smoothly FB! :D and avoid grass!! :)

rcjets_63 06-27-2011 05:33 AM

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Fender mentioned in one of the earlier videos that it took about 110psi to unlock the mechanism on the gear. Wow! Most folks pump their air system up to 100-120 psi (I think the tanks are only rated for 140psi). At 120psi, that only leaves 10psi of pressure available to raise and lower the gear. That doesn't sound like a lot of margin and any failsafe installed in the system would have to be set above 110psi.

Jim

EagleJC 06-27-2011 05:54 AM

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Just to jump inand explain the gearlocking pin. This part is stainless steel, not aluminum. It isvery strong. All kind of gears would be better with smooth landing, even full scale gear.

To unlock the gear (gear up), it takes probably about 70-80 psi and lock the gear(gear down) around 50 psi will be enough air pressue.

Thanks
James

FenderBean 06-27-2011 07:43 AM

RE: Fly Eagle 1/6 scale F-16 Build Thread
 
Wap yes it was!!!! GUE Tigers!!
Falcon/rcjets when the piston is at a resting position (gear full down)the piston is at its max and it will not move any further is when the pin locks. so if I understand it the back side of piston is resting against the stop and the pin stops it from going the other direction. The F-16 gear goes forward to close as you know and the piston has no load in that direction when down ana locked, well unless you land backwards :D I hope this makes it clear
As for the PSI I think i miss spoke, we pumped it up to 110 psi and it unlocked and locked just fine, just as EagleJC stated, but I think I went down to about 30 psi and it still unlocked just not enough pressure to completely move the gear. So if you set you low psi alarm if you have one for 60-80 psi you will be golden! I did find out that you do have to hook the gear up to a 2 way valve for it to work, my mistake was just thinking I could hook the unlock side up to a pressure source and it would unlock.

I will make a small video later today after work, I have a couple of things I have updates for.

My first video build is a learning process, its a lot of work to get things setup so you can move fast and keep the videos small.

FenderBean 06-27-2011 07:51 AM

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Jetspud here is my Combat Models F-16 looks like your scheme, i did the work myself :D

polishedbrother 06-27-2011 07:57 AM

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polishedbrother 06-27-2011 08:11 AM

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ORIGINAL: polishedbrother
Check out Robs high alfa flyby @ the polishedbrother channel on YouTube


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FalconWings 06-27-2011 10:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: FenderBean

Wap yes it was!!!! GUE Tigers!!
Falcon/rcjets when the piston is at a resting position (gear full down)the piston is at its max and it will not move any further is when the pin locks. so if I understand it the back side of piston is resting against the stop and the pin stops it from going the other direction. The F-16 gear goes forward to close as you know and the piston has no load in that direction when down ana locked, well unless you land backwards :D

Thats is not true for the main gear. When you land at normal AOA, the gear will want to collapse unless the linkeage is mechanically locked.
As for the nose gear, if your model bounces on a cross wind landing, or you overshoot the runway and hit a bumpy patch of grass, you will preload your piston with his configuration. That's why most manfucaturers will design a mechanical lock at the gear itself, never at the cylinder piston. Steel helps only if the rest of the mechanism is steel.

Again, perhaps someone with experience using this gear could share their experience. I think at the very least this design would lead to premature replacement of part.

FalconWings 06-27-2011 10:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: polishedbrother



www.youtube.com/embed/bdutAs6-0qA[youtube][/youtube]
Atta boy! thats the way to do it! Add smoke and you got yourself a show stopper! P-200 I assume?

FenderBean 06-27-2011 06:14 PM

RE: Fly Eagle 1/6 scale F-16 Build Thread
 
#23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o3wfmvuxHw

here is a small video showing the aileron boxes before they are glued into the wings

rcjetsaok 06-27-2011 07:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: JackL

When setting up the horizontals, make sure you use the 8 long screws (4 in each bracket) that go all the way through the brackets. Mine were supplied with short screws already installed, and 8 long screws in a bag that you will actually use during the installation.


Jack,

I hope you are learning all the tricks !!!! Make sure you build my airplane right !!!!;)


Danno


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