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DiscoWings 05-29-2012 09:36 AM

Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
These 4 companies seem to be selling almost the exact same models, are the re sellers from 1 manufacturer? If you had to rank them, how would they be listed.

I'm not trying to start a flame war with fan boys, just curious at there selections which are very similiar.

Fly Eagle seems to have the most models but I couldn't find any USA distributor, the same for Jet Legend.

FenderBean 05-29-2012 10:05 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Grabs popcorn :)
All have have pros and cons, so just go with what fits your budget/needs

sskianpour 05-29-2012 10:12 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Subscribed! :):):)

Shaz

E.N.T. 05-29-2012 11:00 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
I'm in.



E.N.T.

Pepperpete 05-29-2012 11:03 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Oh this should be entertaining...

megafly 05-29-2012 11:04 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Wel, I'm from Brazil and over here most of the pilots prefer Skymaster jets, they have some complains about landing gears in Feibao models, but Feibao has made some improvements since then.
As for the others I really don't know.
Let's see the others impressions.

Meesh 05-29-2012 11:05 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Not enough popcorn in the world for this one!:D:D

ianober 05-29-2012 11:29 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Haha, I will contribute based on my experience. I would rank as the following:

1. Skymaster
2. Fei Bao
3. Jet Legend
4. Fly Eagle


1,2 and 3 are actually very close. Basically what it comes down to for me is how much re-engineering / reworking I have to do to the model to get it to and acceptable state of readiness. They all require a fair amount, none are ready to go based on just following instructions provided. Fly Eagle I have no experience with but I rank them 4 based on word a mouth. I might be building one of their F-14's soon so that will give me some first hand knowledge but take that for what its worth. Too many things to cover though in detail. Bottom line is the finished model is what the builder makes of it, they all can be very good fliers for the most part.

ddlstang 05-29-2012 12:42 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Turbulant skies ahead :D

Wap4life 05-29-2012 01:01 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
I have so far only bought fly eagle jets and i have not had any big issues with the jets.  .

I am currently doing a company comparison for my next jet f-16.  I'm looking at price and scale appearance as my two points.  In my vast 1 year experience i have determine that all companies including BVM have issues.  

I know fej f-16 fly great because of Fender and I watch B1 Bob rip the skys in Austin with his Jet Legend f-16. 

Like Fender stated they all have pros and cons. 

DiscoWings 05-29-2012 01:21 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Fly Eagle says they have new honey comb construction, also why don't they show there online prices? Are they more or less than skymaster? HRM Maybe I should have started a poll instead.

FalconWings 05-29-2012 02:12 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Simple. Focus on customer service. Period.

All of these either develop problems OR you may need aftermarket support. This is where they are supposed to shine.
The answer is out there.

David

FenderBean 05-29-2012 02:21 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
If this is the focus I have had great support from Lowell and James. I needed some new tires for my F-16 got them the next week, and when DHL played football with one of my boxes they took care of it with just a small video showing everything. All they asked for was some pictures, I just like video. I give them A on customer service. That is all I will throw in on this discussion unless someone asks specifics, but lets here from people who have tried the others as well.

ORIGINAL: FalconWings

Simple. Focus on customer service. Period.

All of these either develop problems OR you may need aftermarket support. This is where they are supposed to shine.
The answer is out there.

David

FalconWings 05-29-2012 02:25 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Exactly. All of these companies have sucked at customer service at one point, plenty of proof here in RCU.
The key is who is doing a good job NOW.

Airplanes400 05-29-2012 02:45 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
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Oh, oh. You just stepped into it now ...

Is the voting for who you think is the best of the worst, or the worst of the worst?

Getting the popcorn ...

I'm not going to vote since I don't have any direct experiences with most of these brands except for a few of the Skymaster jets I was asked to build. But after going through the kits, I couldn't charge enough to make it worth my while to correct the flaws and modifications I thought were necessary.

If I did vote, I'd vote for FeiBao, just because of the Korean women who pose with the jets.


PaulD 05-29-2012 03:12 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
I can't vote.

There's no "They're all crap" option.

PaulD

FILE IFR 05-29-2012 03:20 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 

ORIGINAL: DiscoWings

Fly Eagle seems to have the most models but I couldn't find any USA distributor, the same for Jet Legend.
CamLex Enterprises (Portland, OR.) is the US dealer for Jet Legend.


powerjets 05-29-2012 03:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: PaulD

I can't vote.

There's no ''They're all crap'' option.

PaulD
Please share your experience...

FILE IFR 05-29-2012 03:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: PaulD

I can't vote.

There's no ''They're all crap'' option.

PaulD

My JL T-45 has been good to me for 5 years. It's still in service.

jetnuno 05-29-2012 03:42 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Hi

The best is SkyBaoEagleLegend:)

Well, I'll explain myself. The ideal far eastern ARF jet would be one with:

Feibao layer and resin
Skymaster landing gear
Flyeagle paiting
Jetlegend price

We are waiting for it SkyBaoEagleLegend....Oh, almost forgot: SERVICE sucks

Regards

Nuno

Jeremy300 05-29-2012 04:06 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 


ORIGINAL: jetnuno

Hi

The best is SkyBaoEagleLegend:)

Well, I'll explain myself. The ideal far eastern ARF jet would be one with:

Feibao layer and resin
Skymaster landing gear
Flyeagle paiting
Jetlegend price

We are waiting for it SkyBaoEagleLegend....Oh, almost forgot: SERVICE sucks

Regards

Nuno
Wow....I was going to say the same thing!!! I've owned models from all and there are good points and bad points with all of them.





BobbyMcGee 05-29-2012 05:03 PM

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So, is this another episode of The Biggest Loser?</p>

hboost 05-29-2012 05:18 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
I have FEJ F86 1/5 with amt Olympus . No problems
Also FEJ F16 1/5.5 with same turbine.No problems
Hector

Jet Club 05-29-2012 06:11 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Flyeagle Viper, F14 and BAE hawk 1:4.5 all great birds...up next FEJ A10

LGM Graphix 05-29-2012 08:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: PaulD

I can't vote.

There's no ''They're all crap'' option.

PaulD

+1

powerjets 05-29-2012 08:48 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 


ORIGINAL: powerjets



ORIGINAL: PaulD

I can't vote.

There's no ''They're all crap'' option.

PaulD
Please share your experience...
Nothing ?

snir2001 05-30-2012 03:51 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 


ORIGINAL: FILE IFR



ORIGINAL: PaulD

I can't vote.

There's no ''They're all crap'' option.

PaulD

My JL T-45 has been good to me for 5 years. It's still in service.
The same here, but just after the elevator modification (2 7955 servos).

megafly 05-30-2012 05:02 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
My cousin Bruno Borges has a Skymaster Big Hawk and he is really Happy with the plane, he also have a BVM Bandit. I think most of the manufactures has some kind of problems and during the building you have to solve most of the them to fly the aircraft...

FenderBean 05-30-2012 05:14 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
I think we finally beat this horse to death and really not much say.

essyou35 05-30-2012 06:01 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 


The only person who can really tell us anything, is someone who has multiple models from all the above brands. Any single model could have issues, so multiple samples are needed.

</p>

Shaun Evans 05-30-2012 07:53 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 

ORIGINAL: essyou35



The only person who can really tell us anything, is someone who has multiple models from all the above brands. Any single model could have issues, so multiple samples are needed.

</p>

I think it shows how far our expectations have slid when this is the standard. If I buy an ARF and the stabs blow off in flight, I don't think I want to just dismiss that as an incidental flaw. I need to have two stabs blow off in flight to deduce that a manufacturer has a problem building stabs?

I built an ARF for a customer (from one of the mentioned manufacturers) where the thing looked nice from a distance, but it was a total clusterf**k inside. The customer paid extra for the 'super scale' F-15 gear. They were so scale that the doors won't close because of the drag links. The rotating mains landed right where the bypass and engine was, so the bypass/engine had to be moved back which put the pipe nearly four inches out the back of the tail-cone. There were enough things wrong that necessitated redesigns that it was clear that they'd never attempted to put one together before they started shipping the model. That's not "growing pains", that's just a piss-poor company with a piss-poor product and an even piss-poorer attitude about the end-user.

FenderBean 05-30-2012 09:53 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
I dont think our standards have changed I just think its what is out there to buy. Until someone talks BVM into producing different and larger scale jets I dont think anyone can really do anything about it. The simple fact is people are buying from the only options out there, it is what it is. I dont settle for bad quality! If I see something thats wrong or needs improvement I dont just complain about it, I offer a solution or possible fix. Just ask Lowell or James if you dont believe me, :D I have super high standards for my equipment. The most important thing to me when I get a new product is support and continued product developement. I cannot speak for others, I dont have a hobby shop or anything I sale that would require me to say something.

I think its pretty simple, everything has pros and cons. A buyer has no excuse to buy any jet out there blindly, tons of knowledge can be found if you just research a little.
I wish people would be mature shoppers and just research the jet they would like to buy, but it seems more people just ask for opinions.

DelGatoGrande 05-30-2012 09:59 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
here a few points:

best scale outline
best retracts
best cocpit

=SkyMaster

ianober 05-30-2012 10:26 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
What good is all that George if your plane falls apart in the air because there is no glue in the proper places? Everyone knows you are a Skymaster pleeb so your stake in this claim means nothing. Skymaster has some good points, best of all landing gear, I think they have the best gear out there when it comes to these ARFS, but if I had to list all the other shortcomings in their kits from hardware package to mounting styles I would be here for days!!! This thread is not a place for company reps, period. This thread is for pilots and builders of said companies aircraft who have no affiliation in ANY other company and have experienced their shortcomings and wants to make future buyers aware of what they are getting into. Fei Bao makes damn good cockpits , Jet Legend is great at glass work (most of the time) and has some really good hardware. ALL of them suck at customer service!!! That is what you give up for the low price of the models.

I think its funny when some people say they have had a model that flies perfect that many others have had issues with. I guarantee you that this person who has tons of flight on one of these jets is an experienced builder and has made MANY modifications. I dare anyone out there to build any of these manufacturers models as is, straight from the instructions and see how long it lasts. It wont be very long and I think most buyers out there know this though.

charlyjet 05-30-2012 10:33 AM

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undoubtedly of quality and price skymaster

dubd 05-30-2012 10:59 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
+1 to everything Ian said. I see each of these planes as a platform that needs to be improved upon to make successful. Some require more work than others.

RamsesCH 05-30-2012 11:31 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Hi

If i could choose/vote i would add CARF (Composite ARF). Building quality of CARF is awesome.
But on the other hand, i have/had a Skymaster Viper where the wings was destroyed by a little heavy, but regular landing on the airfield grasland. After inspection of the wings, we found, in our opionon,the secondmain wing bar, which could be better buildt in with more reinforcement and this was the reason, again in our opinion, for the wing damage. More than 100 wonderful flights without any problems before.
Now i ordered a new Viper, again from skymaster.

Why ?

Overall the Quality of the Skymaster and "Scale"-Style is good. Everything works well, all parts survived :-) over 100 flights and was original, even the air cylinders. Of course, they are not 100%tight and lost a bit air, but no problem for two times gear out and in in the air plus start and landing. All technical details like CG, recommondations for ailerons, flaps and so on was ok.
The service is even OK too. As i build up the first one, i found out, a wrong front gear was built in and can't be driven in,if the servo was installed. But no problem. A short mail to anton and a new front gear arrived within 10 days direct. Of course, there was a lack in the quaility inspection, but it was only a wrong servo plate installed. Anyway, the service was perfect in this case.
Painting and Colour Quality is perfect. Everything fits exact, no different colourshadesbetweenfuselage and wings (Experience with other manufacturers where different colour shadeswas used !!)

Recommendations to improve the quality:
Wider Carbon/Cevlar reinforcement into the wing where the Gear is mounted and a better reinforcement (Carbon Rowings) to the second main wing bar.
Use a bit less glue in the wings :-)

But iknow the only weak point now, from my point of view,and are able to reinforce it by myself if i built up my next viper :-)
In the past, i saw how fast Skymaster picked up information about weak points and solved them. For example, as i orderd my last viper, i read at the same time in a thread here in RC-Network about Gear-Reinforcements which was offered from Sandor from the Netherlands. I ordered them. As i receivedmy Viper , a similar reinforcement was already built in from Skymaster. And the reinforcement in the gear areawas strong enough, because all damages on the wings was outside of this area and the gear itselfhas no damage. This is, was i even expect toofrom a manufacturer: Pick up Information and bring them into the production line without wasting a lot of time.
Another thingis propably one of the most big point of Skymaster: The Landing Gears are perfect about functionality, possibilities of adjustment and quality.

Any question about my voting :-) ?

With best regards from switzerland
Rainer




jetmodeller 05-30-2012 11:34 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Hi All at the end off the day we are all looking for value for money,if you need BVM quailty you pay BVM prices,i have built and flown over 10 FEJ models,yes in the early days they had some problems with leaking cylinders and heavy models.I have just completed my second FEJ HAWK with the light weight constuction and if it flys as well as my first i shall be well satisfied. At least with FEJ the model comes complete with everything NO extras to add on with a second to none after sales service.I am not sure why they do not advertise there prices but just drop James an email and he will normally come back with a price within the hour and it will be very competative if not cheaper than any of the other chinese companys regards Keith

xumbug 05-30-2012 11:47 AM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Hi every one, I will vote Skymaster. They gave me the best service i could ever have expected from a manufacturer after i came to grief with my Viper jet. John and Anton came to my rescue and sent me all the goodies I needed to do my re build.
Simply the best is all I can say;)

Stuart (South Africa)

Shaun Evans 05-30-2012 12:17 PM

RE: Fly Eagle Vs Jet legend Vs Skymaster vs Fei Bao
 
Ian,

While I agree with most of what you said, I have to disagree about who this thread is for. I think it's unfair to assume that because someone is a rep for one product, he cannot speak honestly or from first-hand experience on that product or a competing product. I think some reps often show bias to the point of straining their credibility, but to broad-brush them to the point of declaring a post or thread off-limits is too much.

Let's face it...if you go to a jet meet, how many pilots there are NOT reps for someone? What about ex-reps...can they post? They seldom lose their bias or allegiances just because they're not actively repping a product, right? A majority of those guys have a lot of information and experience to share (including their opinions on certain products) and shouldn't be left out of the discussion because of their affiliation. I think we're all big enough boys to read a post and determine whether we're being fed a load of BS by someone because they're a rep. For my own part, the experience I shared was real and really happened just like I wrote. A am a rep for Y/A, but I have built and flown lots of other stuff over the years. Y/A may be what I compare other products to, but many of those products are better IMO. Some ain't. The reader can discern for himself whether a comment is fair or foul and, like you said, some reps have earned themselves reputations for just spouting the company line.


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