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Pinnacle Aviation 10-01-2012 01:05 PM

Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
This will be the second conversion from sports jet into pseudo scale jet. As the Ultra Flash looks a little like an F-20 I thought of a refreshing change from the standard Comp-AFT standard schemes and the over used Formula 1 team schemes. I am also going to utilise the current aggressor schemes used by the US Air Force, US Navy and US Marines.

I will leave the unavailing of the scheme just prior to painting her.

After installing all the equipment into the airframe I subsequently removed it all to make the painting easier. The first job I did was to sand down the airframe with scotchbrite to give it a surface finish for the primer to adhere too. After that process was complete to save weight I started the panel lines using some self manufactured panel tape. This tape is just normal vinyl cut into 0.8mm wide strips. As you can see I used similar panel lines of an F-5E to give me a rough design as we used the BAe Hawk panel lines for the Ali's Futura.

Tonight I have finished the wings and Horizontal stabiliser (tailplane here in the UK). People may ask why the panel lines, well if you have seen my previous paint projects you would have noticed that I love weathering so in this thread you will also see me weathering the model.

Enjoy the following photos.

Pinnacle Aviation 10-01-2012 01:23 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
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PaulD 10-01-2012 07:14 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Seems to me the classic flash wing/profile would have suited the application better but very interesting project regardless.

Looking forward to seeing the results.

PaulD

Pinnacle Aviation 10-02-2012 12:36 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
This evening I finished all the panel lines on the Ultra Flash. Tomorrow morning I will give the model a coat of 2k primer over the whole model. I was hoping to have a little more time on the model but two models arrived today, Ali's FEJ F16 for installation of a new large undercarriage and lights, also the Tomahawk Large Futura for build and paint for Aerotrim wing bags. I will be adding a build and paint thread to RCU for the Aerotrim Futura.

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Eddie P 10-02-2012 12:47 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Looking great so far! I like the new wing planform on the Flash and I think it will look great as a Sport F-5.

smchale 10-02-2012 01:17 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Subscribed. I thought this would be nice in one of the rcaf cf-5 schemes. In the end I went with a Futura, but watching your progress with interest. Also looking fwd to your Futura effort.

FMRR 10-03-2012 05:32 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
What a great idea, I'm a big fan of the F5 & F20 :D

Pinnacle Aviation 10-03-2012 07:17 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
I got up early this morning to put a coat of grey primer over the ultra flash before I started work in the workshop. At lunchtime I gave the inside a coat of stone effect paint. The heaters are on to cook all the paint on prior to the sanding down.

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Jame 10-03-2012 11:04 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Making a very hard job look very easy again Phil :) can't wait to see the end result, another masterpiece I'm guessing, I would've loved to be in this situation when I was speckling the inside of my Flash, took a muppet like me what seemed like hours to mask everything :eek: really finishes off the inside though.

CJ2002 10-03-2012 11:06 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
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Phil,

It would look horny as hell in a well weathered pseudo 527th Aggressor scheme (Alconbury 70s-80s)...:D

Cheers,

Dick

Pinnacle Aviation 10-03-2012 11:16 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Hi guys,

Thanks for your nice comments, dick I did look at the old Alconbury scheme but the one I really like is the following brown scheme.

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Wayne22 10-04-2012 05:52 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
can't believe how much definition the panel lines give to the shape of the flash...It should look fabulous when it is finished!!

Eddie P 10-04-2012 08:04 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Those are all fantastic options!!

ppljr 10-05-2012 04:45 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Here are some good pics...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11...m.htm#11085706

Boomerang1 10-05-2012 02:09 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Does the chart tape:

Come off before the colour leaving lines in the primer?

Come off after the colour leaving white lines in the colour?

Not come off at all leaving raised lines in the final finish?

John.

Craig B. 10-05-2012 06:28 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Hi John,

It usually comes off after primer so colour fills in the depressions which also capture the weathering paint/ chalk when applied.

Looks great Phil...will be watching this one with interest.

Craig.

Pinnacle Aviation 10-05-2012 11:53 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Hi John/Craig,

Your right Craig, I have now removed the tape only after the whole model had been rubbed down with 1000 wet'n'dry. This has now given me a nice line definition for the weathering. The next job will be adding some rivets, I will only be adding about 10k on this model not to many, I added 25k on Ali's Futura and 35k on my hunter so not to many this time. These will be burnt into the paint using a soldering iron and a small piece of copper tube compressed onto the end.

I will add some pictures later of the model before, during and after the riveting.

Pinnacle Aviation 10-06-2012 11:46 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
The first set of photos show the tape removed, the second set shows the riveting and the tool I used.

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Pinnacle Aviation 10-06-2012 11:51 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
And now the riveting

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InboundLZ 10-06-2012 12:22 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
No button head rivets?

Pinnacle Aviation 10-06-2012 12:25 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Hi Dave,

No, there are no button head rivets on the F-20UF

Pinnacle Aviation 10-07-2012 06:37 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
First colour on, this is sand which is the underside colour and the lightest colour on the top

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Pinnacle Aviation 10-07-2012 06:53 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
A couple of photos of her all together outside in the afternoon sun while the Marchetti is being painted

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Wayne22 10-07-2012 07:25 PM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
hope your nose gear fits throught the stock opening after all that rivet work around the perimeter..... I've built 2 and had to reprofile the opening on both...

Boomerang1 10-08-2012 12:37 AM

RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF
 
Yep, got the rivet & panel line detail - nice.

Subtle, just enough to avoid the 'plastic aeroplane' look but not over the top. - John.


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