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jetflyr 10-07-2018 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by LGM Graphix (Post 12468766)
I feel like a kid waiting for christmas waiting for updates on this thread every day! I don't have time to build myself but I love watching this thread as it's a real build. I miss having time to build. Can't wait for more!

+1!

Jetpilot24 10-07-2018 11:07 AM

Mirce Any Update on the weight at this point in the build.

LGM Graphix 10-20-2018 11:18 AM

Mirce your thread is about the only reason I check RCU anymore! Hows the F100 coming?

mirce 10-24-2018 04:11 PM

Thank you guys for so kind words, here's continuation of the work.

Next step in building process was glassing. I used two kind if glass cloth - 80 gr for wings, elevators, elevator box and ailerons. On all other parts I used 18 gr glass cloth.
Epoxy resin was as always German R&G.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...be85613934.jpg
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Than gray primer to show bad spots and after that filler, sanding, primer, filler, sanding, primer filler, sanding...

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mirce 10-24-2018 04:29 PM

Primer, filler, sanding and again and again, give at the end very smooth surface...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...7a269d89c8.jpg
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To be continued...

Mugu 10-25-2018 03:18 AM

Awesom work Mirce!👌👌👌👌😃

jcterrettaz 10-25-2018 04:17 AM

incroyable

Jetpilot24 10-25-2018 12:32 PM

Any info on the weight of the Jet at this point. Would like to know.

Joe

Andrew Bird 10-25-2018 12:40 PM

Nice work!

mirce 10-25-2018 01:11 PM

Thank you for comments...

Here is weight in this stage without any equipment:
- right wing - 1730 gr
- left wing - 1768 gr
- elevators & elevators box - 1172 gr
- fuselage with aluminum wing joiner - 6588 gr

Total weight is: 11.344 gr

- pylons (both) - 136 gr
- 3D printed wing tanks (both) - 980 gr

With this parts, total weight is: 12.460 gr

Fuselage is 2865 mm long and wing span is 2500 mm.

When I spoke with Damiano, he told me that he don't add any weight in his F 100 Super Sabre!!!
OK, his model is with foam wings, rudder and elevators, and to be honest, I don't know what is weight of those parts.

Mirce

N99JH 10-25-2018 03:36 PM

Absolutely beautiful Mirce. Kudos!!

Jetpilot24 10-26-2018 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by mirce (Post 12473408)
Thank you for comments...

Here is weight in this stage without any equipment:
- right wing - 1730 gr
- left wing - 1768 gr
- elevators & elevators box - 1172 gr
- fuselage with aluminum wing joiner - 6588 gr

Total weight is: 11.344 gr

- pylons (both) - 136 gr
- 3D printed wing tanks (both) - 980 gr

With this parts, total weight is: 12.460 gr

Fuselage is 2865 mm long and wing span is 2500 mm.

When I spoke with Damiano, he told me that he don't add any weight in his F 100 Super Sabre!!!
OK, his model is with foam wings, rudder and elevators, and to be honest, I don't know what is weight of those parts.

Mirce


Mirce that is looking absolutely fantastic. Thank you for posting the weight this far. It gives me a better idea as to being able to build and fly with the AMA rules here in the USA. We are allowed up to 55 pounds with fuel. If weight is over that we have to have an experimental waiver for the jet. I really hope that it will be at the 55 pound weight or under with all equipment and fuel. I would really like to build this one.

Thanks
Joe

kevinthoele 10-28-2018 08:40 AM

Well that's about 25 pounds so should be able to keep under 55

kevinthoele 10-28-2018 08:40 AM

Great job love the build

ausberges 11-01-2018 04:59 AM

Mirce, fine work.
Do you finish the glassing with 80 g glass cloth with peel ply or do you apply a second layer of epoxy?

mirce 11-01-2018 05:45 AM

I have my "system", which is for sure same like many modelers do.

So, I sand balsa surface to be as much smooth, as it could be.
Than apply glass cloth and epoxy resin.

Next day I light sand surface, if there is some bubble I sand it down also (made hole on that spot) and than apply second resin layer.

Than I apply gray primer, which show me where I need to apply filler. That is almost on whole surface...

First sanding is with 100 grid paper. A lot of resin, filler and primer was take down after this stage.

Than again gray primer. Gray primer show small scratch, holes, waves, etc... exactly where I need again to add filler. Of course, now you don't need so many filler...
Sanding again first 100, than 240 sand paper.

After this stage a lot of area is gray and good, so you don't need to apply gray primer on whole surface. But on spaces where you apply filler or on areas which are "colorful" I add again gray filler.

After this stage, maybe you need to add on only few spots filler, but usually don't need to do that.
Last sanding is with 240 "bald" sand paper and that is it.
On this stage you try to not take down gray filler, because on next step, painting, sometime you need to add more color layers (weight) to cover that "colorful" spots. My painter told me that...

All in all, sanding is most important, and three times is minimum if you want to have smooth surface...

Sorry, little longer, but hope will help...

Mirce

mirce 11-05-2018 04:16 PM

3D printed wing tank mount on pylon and on the wing...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...720022f6ac.jpg
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LGM Graphix 11-08-2018 07:36 AM

At the pace you've been going there must be a flight video by now! Haha
love this project. Don't keep us waiting lol

ravill 11-08-2018 12:25 PM

Now this way you KNOW if you've built it well.

This is my favorite thread for sure!!

mirce 11-22-2018 03:01 AM

Thank you for kind words...

Next step is applying panel lines, rivets, details, etc...
For this job I use: Mirce Finish set, Rivets set, during this process I'll made Detail set for F 100.
Detail & Finish set - NS Modelers

Elevators was first...

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...db0e519eba.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...3894c59e59.jpg

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Than upper wing side...

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...e724c47995.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...323e1a6708.jpg

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Dots are 2 mm in diameter.

mirce 11-27-2018 01:38 PM

Details on wing bottom side, wing tank and pylon...

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...9a2eb7564e.jpg
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kevinthoele 11-27-2018 08:45 PM

Awesome work!!!!!!!!!!! Love this real build thread...

Maggoo811 11-28-2018 12:03 PM

Think the same - awesome build!!!!!! Nice woodworks!

mirce 12-22-2018 04:14 AM

Marry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!

Like every year, "Mirce models" gives "CHRISTMAS DISCOUNT"

From today until January 15th on all wooden kits and all vinyl sets we give a discount of 20% at a regular price.
www.nsmodelers.rs

LGM Graphix 02-03-2019 07:06 PM

How about an update? I keep hoping :)


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