JetCat P-130RX
JetCat showed a prototype of the new P-130RX turbine at the 20th Anniversary weekend. They also flew one in a Wild Hornet.
This is almost the same diameter as the P-100Rx (99mm), but longer at 284mm. It's a great option for a lot of aircraft, it only weighs 1350g Pump is external RX type, but single wire/single fuel feed. Testing is still in the early days, but it should be available before Xmas. Shown with a P-80SE https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...5f82a32012.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...e0dd24cb50.jpg |
Very nice, will we see it at Jetpower? |
Yes. |
Thrust is about 28 lbs?? |
29lb
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Better in a CARF SU-27 |
The first batch of P-130Rx have been shipped and I received a few this morning.
This is the first turbine with the new V12.0 ECU which has even more features than the amazing V 10 series. Telemetry functions are now available directly. An interesting point I had missed is the turbine is supplied without an ECU battery for the first time with JetCat, 3s Li-Fe or 2s Li-Po batteries can be used-this suits me as most of my customers use a 2s Li-Po and usually larger capacity than the old 2100 Li-Fe that was supplied. More details here. The P130-RX turbine features JetCat’s new V12.0 ECU with telemetry functions. The fuel valves are complete integrated in the turbine housing. It is only a single tube connection from the pump to the turbine. The turbine is electrically connected to the ECU via a single PowerBus connection cable. In addition to the supply battery and the connection to the receiver (1 or 2 channels), the ECU only has to have the fuel pump connected. The power supply is preferably a 3S / 2100mAh LiFePo4 battery. Alternatively, the ECU V12.0 can be powered with a 2S LiPo. This not only provides the ECU and the fuel pump with power, but also all optional components connectable to the bus system, e.g. an additional pump for Smoke and / or LCU (lighting control). Connecting another bus pump, this can be configured as a smoker pump. The setting of the smoker pump power then takes place directly from the ECU. The ECU V12.0 has an integrated precise air pressure and temperature sensor, through which the turbine control intelligently adjusts to the current environmental conditions. The ECU V12.0 also has an internal telemetry adapter. The internal temperature sensor keeps the outside clean, but can be easily exchanged by the user. Like all SX/RX turbines the engine starts with kerosene.https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...45d65b0be5.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...7039cef3d8.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...f801e43149.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...8587f815ec.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...6f4e7dc63a.jpg |
Hey Dave, thanks for the info.
Potentially dumb question... :p Have they changed their RPM sensing scheme away from the old trusted ring magnet in the compressor nut? There are a few features machined in the inlet that I don't recognize. Thx, Kelly W https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2477246df2.jpg |
Pretty certain it's still a magnet in the nut.
Dave |
Originally Posted by Kelly W
(Post 12487291)
Hey Dave, thanks for the info.
Potentially dumb question... :p Have they changed their RPM sensing scheme away from the old trusted ring magnet in the compressor nut? There are a few features machined in the inlet that I don't recognize. Thx, Kelly W https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2477246df2.jpg Maybe holes for cooling systems under purple cover..... in the car turbocharger you can find holes for eliminate surging compressor issue |
Reviving an old-ish thread.
Are any of these engines in the hands of customers and flying? Curious if there are any reviews on it from 1st adopters. Thx, KW |
Originally Posted by Kelly W
(Post 12501544)
Reviving an old-ish thread.
Are any of these engines in the hands of customers and flying? Curious if there are any reviews on it from 1st adopters. Thx, KW Cheers, Paul |
So what?
Lets hear the 130 stories!! |
It’s winter here, but on the Xcalibur Plus thread one of my customers is flying one. RCJI have done the test for the next issue. Dave |
Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere
(Post 12501599)
It’s winter here, but on the Xcalibur Plus thread one of my customers is flying one. RCJI have done the test for the next issue. Dave |
Good to hear this P130-Rx is performing really great...as expected!
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That great to hear Mick. I'm itching to put one of these in a Boomerang Elan, needing some extra push to get of a short-ish grass strip. Its has a P70 and it just barely does the job.
My only issue concern is a past experience of getting a new engine design that is said to be perfect, only to have multiple recalls, serial number ranges to be aware of, etc. I hope this one works out. Hopefully as the weather warms up we'll here a few more success stories. KW |
Originally Posted by Kelly W
(Post 12501773)
That great to hear Mick. I'm itching to put one of these in a Boomerang Elan, needing some extra push to get of a short-ish grass strip. Its has a P70 and it just barely does the job.
My only issue concern is a past experience of getting a new engine design that is said to be perfect, only to have multiple recalls, serial number ranges to be aware of, etc. I hope this one works out. Hopefully as the weather warms up we'll here a few more success stories. KW Someone always has to be one of the first, this is my third JetCat. We fly off a 100m strip of grass which at this time of year is rough and a little bumpy. At present I am the only guy flying jets, for years a myth perpetuated in the club that our field was unsuitable. Almost 20 years ago people tried and failed, with what I would call first generation models....heavy, high wing loading, small wheels and underpowered. Some of the older modellers even insisted retracts would be ripped out on the first flight and should be avoided at all cost. Well my large warbird Electrons have done hundreds of cycles and are still going strong so that idea is consigned to the bin! It is amusing to see their faces as both the standard and plus Xcaliburs take off and land in less than half the strip. The effect of this has been a renewed interest in what is now possible, we now have a guy building up courage to fly his first turbine (P80-SE Elan), and another retired chap building his first jet at 65! Mick |
I am about ready to start it up in my T-38:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...ct-2019-a.html I assume it programs as earlier models. The box was the first from Dreamworks and it has only a v10 version manual supplied. I would like an English version manual for the v12 ECU. Anybody have a link for this? AEHaas |
Do a learn RC, prime the fuse line to the turbine and go, just like the V10. It’s just the telemetry added to the V12 Dave |
How does one use the telemetry with a DX18 transmitter?
AEHaas |
Originally Posted by aehaas
(Post 12501920)
How does one use the telemetry with a DX18 transmitter?
AEHaas |
Originally Posted by aehaas
(Post 12501920)
How does one use the telemetry with a DX18 transmitter?
AEHaas After losing a jet to a flameout that I didn't know happened till it was too late (at jet meet with 6 other planes in the air) I don't fly a turbine without telemetry anymore. If nothing else it'll let you know within a second of a flame out, already saved one plane with it. |
Along with a few others here I'm sure - I was hoping to hear the integrated telemetry function would not need the adapter to work with a spektrum RX. Not the end of the world, but its just more equipment and connections if this is the case.
That drives the question. What radio brand(s) does the integrated telemetry work with, and is that the 3-wire lead matching the 'T' port? Thx, Kelly |
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