nitrobashers.com was a cool Australian basher website a few years ago, and those guys took bashing to levels not outdone by anybody , and mostly with LST2's..
Yeah, I recall watching some of their videos, they had some pretty good stuff.
With the Savage you had to double your investment in the truck - literally (Nitromods diff upgrades here in Germany cost a fortune..) - just upgrading the drivetrain to be able to handle even a lowly 28 engine..
Very true, just a couple of years ago, the Savage needed some pretty extensive upgrades to handle powerful engines, but these days, with the BP diffs and HD dogbones being shipped as standard equipment, I think you would be hard pressed to find any R/C with a stronger stock drivetrain. As much as I dislike electric, I have to admit that these new brushless systems have completely redefined the term "adequate durability".
ps lstforums in the US was always more racer-oriented, so people maybe didn't identify the LST2 with hard-core bashing as much - unfortunately.. Though had they seen what some of these Aussies were doing, they would have...
I primarily browsed North American based bashing forums in the past, and you're right, there has always been minimal discussion of the LST on such sites. I'm actually quite surprised by the lack of 3rd party aftermarket components available for the platform.
The TVP actually has one big weakness Ive seen, and that is from side impacts. No of course your not supposed to hit things sideways, but ive seen a few Savage's wrap a pole of some type hard and come out pretty badly bent.
A TVP design typically needs some form of solid lateral bracing to maintain strength in all directions. Most Savage owners install an inexpensive center skid plate with aluminum cross brace mounts, which takes care of that issue. Some people still manage to bend the TVPs, but there are a plethora of nearly indestructible aftermarket options available for the extreme bashers.
The Losi LST's chassis is actually kind of a hybrid box design. It has vertical side rails like the TVP chassis that is sandwiched by a top and bottom plates forming a box style chassis. Its actually quite rugged, a bit more than I think people want to give credit for and when used with a roll bar like the NE one does not flex at all up front.
nailed the ideal box frame design, but unfortunately they decided not to use a full plate on the bottom of the chassis, leaving the plastic rails prone to failure at the juncture between the 3 lower plates. I have seen the plastic rails snap several times, even with the NE roll bar in place, usually resulting in the upper deck bending as well.
I've posted this picture a few times before, but it effectively illustrates what I'm talking about here:
And as for my comments being dumb, far from it, the Savages have a much higher COG(and do so without any more ground clearance)and just can't turn at speed like the LST's especially for racing. And what holds true for racing, also holds true for bashing. The few people here who still own Savage's are constantly flipping over their trucks from hard turns they couldnt handle and landing jumps where the suspension just wasn't on par with the LST.
The Savage's poor performance on the track has more to do with its roll center than its center of gravity. Adding HPI's racing suspension conversion kit will drastically improve handling, and switching to a 4 shock setup will increase suspension performance on normal sized track jumps.