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XTM MAMMOTH V. AE MGT

Old 11-24-2003, 03:00 PM
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:34 PM
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Default RE: XTM MAMMOTH V. AE MGT

Well the facts depend on what you are planning to do with the truck.

Different things are better for different types of driving.

I saw both of them this weekend at a hobby shop and the GT look a lot better.

The Mammoth wheels are way to small and make the truck look out of proportion.

Plus, Team Associated is known for their vehicles.
Old 11-24-2003, 03:34 PM
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i should have my mammoth wed. i'll let you know how it is. don't know anything about the mgt other than what i've read
Old 11-24-2003, 10:25 PM
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MGT GREAT TRUCK...BIGGER FASTER TOGHER!!!!!!Need I say more???????
Old 11-25-2003, 04:40 PM
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ok at my work we got 12 mammoths and 2 mgts. The 2 mgts are still sitting there while we are awaiting on more mammoths to come in cause we have none.
Old 11-25-2003, 05:00 PM
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Default RE: XTM MAMMOTH V. AE MGT

kingswig:
Do you actually own an MGT? It is neither BIGGER nor FASTER than the MAMMOTH. The MAMMOTH is 23 inches long while the MGT is approx. 22 inches. Top speed on the MGT is 32-34 mph. Top speed on the Mammoth is 50+. Well, as you can see, so far the MAMMOTH is BIGGER and FASTER. I don't know what togher means. I'll assume you meant tougher. I don't own either so I can give an opinion there.
Old 11-25-2003, 05:02 PM
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I meant I cannot give an opinion as to the toughness of either truck.
Old 11-25-2003, 05:24 PM
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All this 50 mph talk re. the Mammoth seems like a lot of hot air!!

It weighs MORE than the Savage 25

It's engine is a tad smaller and I'd bet they are within 5-10% of each other in terms of overall power.

SO....the laws of physics dictate that the ONLY way the Mammoth could be faster is if it is geared for speed rather than power. And of course, that could be done to ANY truck, if all you care about is top speed.

When I read a mag. w/a true speed reading, I'll buy it, but until then, it sounds like yet another mfg. claiming more than they deliver


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Old 11-25-2003, 06:53 PM
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The Mammoth IS MUCH faster than all the other typical monster trucks I've run with. Walks away from a Savage 21, smokes the Savage 25 SS and also easily moves away from all kinds of Tmaxxes we drive with at the local skate park. It's fast, BELIEVE IT. It is definitely a bad ass truck, I'll tell you right now, give it a few more weeks and thats about all you'll read about on here is the XTM Mammoth
Old 11-25-2003, 10:30 PM
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Just FYI everyone...
The Mammoth is actually about 21" from bumper to bumper, so it's not as long as the TC, BFT, and Titan Deluxe (they are 22"). XTM must have measured from the front bumper to the back of the body (which extends past the rear bumper). That's not really a fair way to measure...you could put a 1/5 on any truck, and call it the biggest...
Old 11-25-2003, 10:49 PM
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MGT is better.Thats all.


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Old 11-25-2003, 11:21 PM
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Deandome your reply was pretty stupid. Look how small the t-maxxes engine is yet it still can push over 40 mph.
Old 11-25-2003, 11:54 PM
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Deandome your reply was pretty stupid. Look how small the t-maxxes engine is yet it still can push over 40 mph.

STUPID???

No, that would better refer to how you COMPLETELY missed the well-conceived comparison between two trucks with almost identically-matched engines. The heavier one is claiming 50 mph, the lighter one is claiming & acheiving 40.

At first I doubted the Mammoth will hit 50 out of the box. Then I came around to say that the ONLY way the Mammoth could hit 50 (or even 43 or so!) would be if XTM geared it for speed at the expense of torque (something that's a wee bit important in monster trucks).

Insult away. I'd expect nothing more from a representitive of the embarrasingly-crude city of Philadelphia[8|-
Old 11-26-2003, 12:26 AM
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You cant really saty anything about a truck you dont own and have never seen run. But once again we habe a speculator instead of experience. Speak from your head not your ass
Old 11-26-2003, 07:09 AM
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the mammoth is not hevier
Old 11-26-2003, 09:42 AM
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Seriously, you cant judge a truck on popularity (seems like the MGT has got that, because it uses the plain 2 shock setup and is big). I bet the mammoth would smoke the MGT and Savage 25 (all stock). It really comes down to what you want, not popularity and looks (thats why i bought a X-factor over a savage, because i wanted something different, not the same thing as everyone else).
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the mammoth is not hevier
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Savage: 11.2 lbs. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFLP2&P=0

Mammoth: 11.75 lbs. http://www.hobbypeople.net/specials/mammoth.asp

Granted, it's only 1/2 lb, not a full one like I said. But that "laws of physics" thing still applies.

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Im not going to compare the two trucks because I have not seen the Mgt run. I will tell you the mammoth has some nice features!!!!
1. High Torque steering servo 175 oz
2. Four steel disc brakes
3. Throttle return spring
4. Theaded shocks
5. heavy duty construction
6. Layed out for track racing ( buggy style set up)
7. simple design(easy to work on)
8. Feels light for its size( even weight distribution, not top heavy)
9 Spur gear protection
10. 50 mph straight out the box( I already installed the 24.7 pro in mine, dont know if it will make it faster)
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ORIGINAL: popa71

Im not going to compare the two trucks because I have not seen the Mgt run. I will tell you the mammoth has some nice features!!!!
1. High Torque steering servo 175 oz
2. Four steel disc brakes
3. Throttle return spring
4. Theaded shocks
5. heavy duty construction
6. Layed out for track racing ( buggy style set up)
7. simple design(easy to work on)
8. Feels light for its size( even weight distribution, not top heavy)
9 Spur gear protection
10. 50 mph straight out the box( I already installed the 24.7 pro in mine, dont know if it will make it faster)
NOW we're talking turkey! That IS an impressive feature list, especially the servo & threaded shocks.

Dunno about the brakes, though. Am I correct in assuming that you mean one disc at each wheel, rather than one "quad" setup in the middle?

I know people often say they want discs at each wheel, but in practice, I believe it would be MUCH heavier (relatively, I know we're not talking pounds!), it would involve a maze of (fragile) linkages, and I imagine it would be tricky maintianing proper brake balance between all 4 wheels. But it IS unique, and people DO seem to want it, so what the hell!

Dean
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Two disks in front of the spur gear, Two disks in back. Take a hard look at the picture of the spur gear. That will allow you to figure out the set up. its immpresive you really need to see it run. What I like most about it is everything on this truck is there for a reason. No gimmicks like fake piggyback shocks. This truck is made for seriuos racing
Old 11-26-2003, 11:16 AM
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Im sorry I forgot to mention the tuned aluminum pipe in the list of features
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Nice photos, BTW!! Man, it MUST be big with all the empty space in the chassis!!

Two minor quibbles (relax, I'm not slamming!).

1) No chassis stiffeners. The Maxx has it's braces, and the MGT has two "I-beams" to stiffen their pan chassis ("chassi"??). I'm surprised that a BIG truck like this wouldn't have something too.

2) Those supports would ALSO serve to protect the TRANSMISSION, which curiously protrudes through the bottom of the chassis. I guess that lowers the COG a bit, but without any protection, that little plastic box is dyin' to get whacked. And it's not like there's not any room up above for the whole tranny unit!!

Like I said, minor quibbles, but it also creates a nice hopup opportunity for the creative owner or an aftermarket company.

Dean
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Nice photos, BTW!! Man, it MUST be big with all the empty space in the chassis!!

Two minor quibbles (relax, I'm not slamming!).

1) No chassis stiffeners. The Maxx has it's braces, and the MGT has two "I-beams" to stiffen their pan chassis ("chassi"??). I'm surprised that a BIG truck like this wouldn't have something too.

2) Those supports would ALSO serve to protect the TRANSMISSION, which curiously protrudes through the bottom of the chassis. I guess that lowers the COG a bit, but without any protection, that little plastic box is dyin' to get whacked. And it's not like there's not any room up above for the whole tranny unit!!

Like I said, minor quibbles, but it also creates a nice hopup opportunity for the creative owner or an aftermarket company.

Dean
Old 11-26-2003, 11:24 AM
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Just like the Dominator the chasis stifners are on topof the truck check out the two beams that extend down the center of the truck.
Old 11-26-2003, 11:27 AM
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You are correct dean that transmission set up does lower the cg and the plastic protector is about 3mm thick, Feels very sturdy but theres only one way to find out.

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