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Old 06-14-2004, 03:43 PM
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Default Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

Well, here it is - the Official Mad Force Thread.
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Old 06-14-2004, 04:00 PM
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I'll start thing off with my project "Race Force". Now that I've completed my "Race Maxx", I've decided to go KYOSHO!

The project so far:

Kyosho Mad Force Kit (I decided not to use the RCX to save weight and it's a race project, not going to see that much abuse) and I am determined to stick with the pesky little Kyosho 21 too!


17mm hub adapters (Ofna Dominator)
Ofna Dominator Rims
Pro-Line Bow Ties
New Era exhaust port adapter (had to machine it for pull-starter clearance)
RB short radius header
RB 063 pipe
Traxxas turnbuckles (bolted to 2 link suspension arms to minimize unwanted flex (will post pics later)



In it's maiden voyage on the track, I finished mid-pack in the B-Main (I was planning on running my Maxx until it experienced issues during the last round of qualifying). Overall, I was impressed on how well it jumped (the smaller than stock tires get the credit here). The kyosho 21 ran in the 220 degree range and had ample power and more than held it's own against all comers thanks to the Mad Force's light weight. The tight turning radius really comes in handy too.

Now I have to drop the truck's static ride height, lower the fuel tank, batter box, invert the steering servo, and get rid of the roll bar. I have to lower that center of gravity. I have a few more tricks up my sleeve, and I'll post them here as they materialize.


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Old 06-14-2004, 04:26 PM
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

Mad Force ownz... I loved it. So fast and so well built. That OS-21RX in the RCX was the EASIEST motor to keep up.

I couldn't keep the truck off of the back wheels... I was going to lower some things and move some things forward for
better balance. Oh, and those brakes... Man those were good brakes- too good. I had to dial the EPA on the Transmitter
all of the way down and it would still stop on a dime- not very graciously though.

I can't say I miss it- I wanted a racer so I went for an EB4 in exchange. Unlike i8Tweety here, most folks will NOT be
competitive with this truck racing. Even dialing the truck in would still require a GOOD driver to be competitive, which
lends itself obviously to i1tweety's skills.

Compared to all other MT's out there, I would say the Mad Force easily has the highest 'Shock and Awe' factor.

I will however say- I will get the new Kyosho MT ASAP... Take the MF 3 speed, couple it with some innovations and indie
suspension... That thing is going to be AWESOME.
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Old 06-14-2004, 04:54 PM
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

what mad force is the best????

also i dont own a mad force but i think thier has to be at least as many mad force ppl as mgt ppl cause mgt has like 20 treads in it. i dont understand why it has a forum.
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Old 06-14-2004, 05:14 PM
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

The Mad Force RCX is the crowning jewel of the Mad Force Legacy so far. OS-21RGx,
thicker side plates, dual shocks and more.

It is only available on Ebay these days, it was a limited time offering from what I heard,
commemorating the RCX show last year.
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Old 06-14-2004, 07:51 PM
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

has anyone had experience with the new era bumper that allows you to move the servo down onto the bumper? it looks like the servo will smash off if you crash.
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:23 PM
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

You're referring to this one, right?



I don't think you have to worry about the servo being mounted on the back of the front bumper. If you nose dive so hard (or heaven forbid drive into something so fast) that you severely bend or break the bumper or mounting hardware, you have bigger worries than the servo

The only thing I'm concerned about with the design is whether or not it will dig into the ground on nose first landings.
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:40 PM
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

yep. i am more interested in the regular one. the 40 dollar one.
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Old 06-15-2004, 12:44 PM
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

i would like to thank all of the people that have helped me with info on the mad force. When i was going to get it, my dad said that it was teh same as my savgae so i wen with the nmt2 . i love that truck, and still wish that i had a mad force
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are there any problems with the mad force?? any weak spots that i should know about. i have heard about the dog bones popping out, any other problems?
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

I have a fix for the dog bones popping out (I experienced the same problem) that does not involve replacing the drive shafts with universals or getting the deeper drive cups. While both these "solutions" take care of the symptom, the cause is still there - excessive flex of the 2 link suspension.

My method consists of bolting 1 adjustable tie rod on each of the stock suspension links. This minimizes flex while allowing full articulation. I used these rods (from the original T-Maxx) for a cost of $12.



I'll post a pic of this modification tonight.
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Old 06-16-2004, 06:30 PM
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

Here's some pics of my project Race Force - still in it's infancy.

The last picture shows the modification I did to keep unwanted flex (and keep those pesky center dog bones in).


Yes, that's a T-Maxx body. I didn't bring the mad force body to the track on Sunday (I only brought the truck for show-and-tell purposes). When I ran into issues with my race maxx during qualifying, I had to improvise .
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

do you have a parts list? i dont need stock numbers, just what parts you used..... (ehh maybe some links would be nice!)
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

For the 2 link suspension stiffening, I used 2 sets of turnbuckles for the original T-Maxx (not the 2.5 wide maxx), 8 bolts, and 8 nuts. It's that simple.
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do you know how long the bolts should be? haha, i wanna make it look like a real professional job.
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Old 06-17-2004, 07:38 AM
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how's the handling on a mad force? i'm thinkin about buying one but i'm reluctant because it's solid-axle.. is it easy to flip
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Old 06-17-2004, 08:02 AM
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It's no easier to flip than my stock T-Maxx was.
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Old 06-17-2004, 09:04 AM
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

ORIGINAL: i8tweety

It's no easier to flip than my stock T-Maxx was.
if u mean to flip in air,the madforce is the easiest truck to flip thanks to his big and heavy tyres that give a lot of centrifugal force to the truck in air!!!

watch this at half trottle! [link]http://www.rcpics.net/img/31599[/link]

see ya and go fast!!(with a madforce)!!!!
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nah i mean like roll over
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

heres a great mad force site: www.madforce.net

it has lots of usefull info on a madforce
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Default RE: Official Kyosho Mad Force Thread

im thinking this might me my next MT, but i will get the *kit* not the rtr for 320(?) it loks likea good MT
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u should definantly get the force as an mt for 320
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I always liked the Mad Force- I talked my buddy into getting one. But... Nowhere near the stability of the Maxx(I had to compare it to something), rolls when trying to do quick tight turns. Flimsy steering(my buddy upgraded to the New Era setup). And he broke a piece off the front axle(shock or link mount, I forget). There is a kit for stiffening the links as tweety is doing. The motor, tranny and wheelies are great though.
You will always have to mail order for parts, too.
A cool truck, but falls short in many areas, imo.
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I have a mad armour and all it's doing is sitting and collecting dust. When i run the mad armour something is always happening. Dog bones popping out, steering sucks, the plastic axle housing broke when my dog bone bent. I can't get a tank of gas through it before something goes wrong. So when i get done with school i am gonna see if some of the parts from my mad armour will fit onto my inferno 7.5.
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that gotta suck!!!!!!!1[:'(]
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