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Another Savage TVP copy?
09-19-2004, 01:47 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: Acs_guitars
because nothing breaks.
ORIGINAL: caseyddr
its not, its an opinionated and bias statement by him. Its the design in the truck not the chassis that leads to a stronger overall setup.
ORIGINAL: Tnx_4_life
hmm, much stronger. why? why is the TVP setup stronger than the singel plate setup?
tim
hmm, much stronger. why? why is the TVP setup stronger than the singel plate setup?
tim
09-19-2004, 01:49 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: Mxracer45
Maybe you want the picture again....
ORIGINAL: Acs_guitars
because nothing breaks.
ORIGINAL: caseyddr
its not, its an opinionated and bias statement by him. Its the design in the truck not the chassis that leads to a stronger overall setup.
ORIGINAL: Tnx_4_life
hmm, much stronger. why? why is the TVP setup stronger than the singel plate setup?
tim
hmm, much stronger. why? why is the TVP setup stronger than the singel plate setup?
tim
09-19-2004, 01:55 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
THat picture is a crash picture... it is not showing the vetical flex while bashing/racing. The Up and down flex on my T-maxx would strip spur gears because of the movement between the motor and trans. You truckdid not bend vertically.... Did it?
09-19-2004, 03:37 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: Acs_guitars
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault
)... Lets keep it on the truck in question.
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault
)... Lets keep it on the truck in question.
09-19-2004, 03:40 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: caseyddr
Your comparing real scale vs a toy. The fact is if an RC Crash is going to bend the single flat plate design, IT WILL BEND THE TVP DESIGN, and seriously, how often do you see a chassis bend in to a U shape, never.
ORIGINAL: Acs_guitars
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault)... Lets keep it on the truck in question.
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault
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09-19-2004, 03:45 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: ICrashThings
A full U? Never, a almost full U yes i have.
ORIGINAL: caseyddr
Your comparing real scale vs a toy. The fact is if an RC Crash is going to bend the single flat plate design, IT WILL BEND THE TVP DESIGN, and seriously, how often do you see a chassis bend in to a U shape, never.
ORIGINAL: Acs_guitars
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault)... Lets keep it on the truck in question.
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault
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Also, hes saying "bashing and racing conditions" where its virtually impossible to even bend the chassis like hes saying, unless done on purpose.
09-19-2004, 04:09 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
okay i you guys have made me ask, cause no one else has.
how in the heck did you get that savage to bend like that????????
i mean holy cow!!!!!!
how in the heck did you get that savage to bend like that????????
i mean holy cow!!!!!!
09-19-2004, 04:20 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: porcelainvortex
okay i you guys have made me ask, cause no one else has.
how in the heck did you get that savage to bend like that????????
i mean holy cow!!!!!!
okay i you guys have made me ask, cause no one else has.
how in the heck did you get that savage to bend like that????????
i mean holy cow!!!!!!
09-19-2004, 04:27 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: caseyddr
We are talking monster trucks, not a RC10GT :P
Also, hes saying "bashing and racing conditions" where its virtually impossible to even bend the chassis like hes saying, unless done on purpose.
ORIGINAL: ICrashThings
A full U? Never, a almost full U yes i have.
ORIGINAL: caseyddr
Your comparing real scale vs a toy. The fact is if an RC Crash is going to bend the single flat plate design, IT WILL BEND THE TVP DESIGN, and seriously, how often do you see a chassis bend in to a U shape, never.
ORIGINAL: Acs_guitars
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault)... Lets keep it on the truck in question.
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault
)... Lets keep it on the truck in question.
Also, hes saying "bashing and racing conditions" where its virtually impossible to even bend the chassis like hes saying, unless done on purpose.
09-19-2004, 04:33 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: caseyddr
Your comparing real scale vs a toy. The fact is if an RC Crash is going to bend the single flat plate design, IT WILL BEND THE TVP DESIGN, and seriously, how often do you see a chassis bend in to a U shape, never.
ORIGINAL: Acs_guitars
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault)... Lets keep it on the truck in question.
WOW!... I just realized how Off-topic this thread has gotten (my fault
)... Lets keep it on the truck in question.
09-19-2004, 05:50 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
man i have been reading this forum for awhile now..... you ppl need to get a grip with the clone stuff.
you might as well say ford is the same as chevy cuz they both have frames.
unless you have some secret new type of frame for a vehicle, then yes, duh, they are all going to look like clones.
guess i'll go yell at my mom, since her new car has a unibody chasis, just like my jeep grand cherokee
you might as well say ford is the same as chevy cuz they both have frames.
unless you have some secret new type of frame for a vehicle, then yes, duh, they are all going to look like clones.
guess i'll go yell at my mom, since her new car has a unibody chasis, just like my jeep grand cherokee
10-11-2004, 02:45 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
The trinity spyder looks kinda disproportionalized[&:][sm=bananahead.gif]from my standpoint tires look bigger than the rest of the body least i think thats what it is.. But its not a clone, Its more or less a Frankenstein
10-12-2004, 02:44 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: Acs_guitars
Well, to say a Revo is a clone of a Savage is Blastphemy!
My point is HPI had the first TVP MT and now that it has been out long enough other companies are copying the design. The same thing happened with the T-Maxx and RC10gt.
ORIGINAL: oatmealman
ya you guys think every thing is a clone of a savage,what a revo a defiantly a clone of the the savage,the warhead a clone,hehehehe i neeed to get a life,wait a trinity a clone hehehehehehehehhe,clone clone clone clone clone clone no more clones[sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][&:][&:][&:][&:]
ya you guys think every thing is a clone of a savage,what a revo a defiantly a clone of the the savage,the warhead a clone,hehehehe i neeed to get a life,wait a trinity a clone hehehehehehehehhe,clone clone clone clone clone clone no more clones[sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif][&:][&:][&:][&:]
My point is HPI had the first TVP MT and now that it has been out long enough other companies are copying the design. The same thing happened with the T-Maxx and RC10gt.
10-12-2004, 03:26 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
It's a TVP copy but not a Savage copy. The twin vertical plate design isn't patented or copyrighted by anyone specific company, simply because that's too broad of a concept.
This new truck isn't a copy off the Savage, but you can be sure the design of the Savage influenced the creators in designing this truck. It's taking something that exists and making your own to overcome where the others fall short. If that means utilizing a TVP construction because it better suits your application then good for them.
As for that fuel tank, it is most likely so long and shallow to keep fuel pressures more level throughout the amount of fuel remaining, ensuring the fuel mixture doesn't change as it gets near empty. This is a common problem with today's monster trucks and can be recognized by the truck getting much more lean towards the end of the tank. The lower the fuel tank the less this is noticed.
This new truck isn't a copy off the Savage, but you can be sure the design of the Savage influenced the creators in designing this truck. It's taking something that exists and making your own to overcome where the others fall short. If that means utilizing a TVP construction because it better suits your application then good for them.
As for that fuel tank, it is most likely so long and shallow to keep fuel pressures more level throughout the amount of fuel remaining, ensuring the fuel mixture doesn't change as it gets near empty. This is a common problem with today's monster trucks and can be recognized by the truck getting much more lean towards the end of the tank. The lower the fuel tank the less this is noticed.
10-12-2004, 04:14 PM
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RE: Another Savage TVP copy?
ORIGINAL: hyper7
Probly metioned already but i didn't feel like reading through 3 pages of crap. HPI did NOT create the first tvp mt it was Kyosho with the mad force. so every savage owner should be thanking kyosho for helping to advance the mt market.
Probly metioned already but i didn't feel like reading through 3 pages of crap. HPI did NOT create the first tvp mt it was Kyosho with the mad force. so every savage owner should be thanking kyosho for helping to advance the mt market.
