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hey guys need to know will 30% heli fuel work in cars hears the differences in fuel

backyard basher20% nitro content 20% oil 16% oil 100% syn
cool power 30% heli nitro 30% oil 17% 100% syn

the guy at great hobbies says they use backyard basher due to it has the
most oil content in it.unfortinaly fuel is a pain for me to get no lhs
to get it from my nabour brings me a case at a time from Vancouver.
also can sum one give me a few shops to call for fuel.

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also i found most other fuels are 10% oil but not any less tho.

Kemo

those engines generally run on less nitromethane, and more oil. You'll have a nightmare trying to tune it to that... supposedly. And then again, the blends are supposedly completely different because one is brewed for car and one for planes/choppers.

mike54937

Though it may be a pain in the ***** to get fuel, I wouldn't use heli fuel. It wasn't made for R/C cars. Kemo is right, there is more oil in the heli fuel and would be almost impossible to tune.

RC everything

well i talk to a couple people
Monday ill give Morgans fuel a call.
so fare other than the heli is 30% instead of 20%
and oil is 1% higher theirs exactly the same all oils are the same.
plane fuel is different the oil is much higher but helis and cars are
pretty much the same.
even know theirs a 1 % deferents in oil the 10% nitro makes up.
so ill let you know what Morgan fuel Says on Monday.
u must buy syn heli fuel for it to work tho.

synthetic003

ohh my godd i wish i would have found this site 2 months ago i just sold my t maxx for 250 because i was so pissed off at it because i couldnt get a good tune to it after i broke it in on top fuel 20 percent. my buddy sold me some cool power fuel said it works great in his engines of course he flie heli's an planes. damnit i had over 600 bucks in that truck too. i sold it thinking i screwed my engine up switching to 20 % top fuel to 25% cool power fuel i had my hsn so far in as my lsn so far out an idle way in just to start it an while it was running reajdust them an run it for 2 seconds then start all over. ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1[:@][:@][:@][&o]

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hey
i talk to Morgans fuels today
heli fuel is ok to use at your own risk but is not recommended.
heli fuel has more power than car fuel and the syn oil is
a different mix.
i don't want 20% id like to go with more like 30% what is a good car fuel.
im the dude that buying a 280mph turbine jet this year for speed so
i want all the power i can get.

bigbadbowtie

Car fuel,heli fuel,plane fuel are ALL made up of the same 3 basic ingredients. Nitromethane, methanol and oil.

The 1 big difference is usually the oil content/type.

Most of your car fuels run 8-12% oil and in my experience it is usually a castor/synthetic mix.

Airplane fuels usually run 17-25% oil and it is usually a castor synthetic mix.

Heli fuel when used in a ringed glow engine is 100% synthetic and ranges from 17% up. If non ringed it can be a castor/sythetic blend. This is also applicable to airplane engines.

If you look at the Thunder Tiger EK4. It is a ringed glow engine and calls for 100% synthetic heli fuel.


......with that said,I have been running "Airplane fuel" in my ground based RC's for YEARS..... NEVER an issue. If I was given a gallon of full synthetic heli fuel, I would add a little castor and run it!!!

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how could i used the 30% heli fuel will i need to add any thing or just give her
can u hep me hear. sure its 100% syn oil but thats what back yard basher is to.

bigbadbowtie

I personally like to run a little castor in my fuels. I would add a few ounces of castor and run it.

RC everything

have u used omega 15% in cars before
also how much castor sould i mix with 30% heli fuel
with 30% nitro and 17% 100%syn oil.

bigbadbowtie

I ran Morgans Omega for YEARS in my cars. I ran the 25% nitro which has 17% oil that is a castor/synthetic blend.

Here is what "I" would do.. I would add 3 ounces of castor. If the beginning oil content was 17% that will bring you up to 19% total oil content. Thats a TON of oil but its what "I" would do. I just prefer to have some castor in the fuel. Thats just my preference.

I usually run fuel that ranges from 12 to 17% oil.

Don't take my info as gospel.... Im just an old Rcer who likes more oil than most. :-)

RC everything

thanks for the help last question

omaga 25% =25% nitro 17%oil 30%cast70%syn for type of oil
now with that in mind i got 3 gallans of omega 15% hear for planes.
specs
15% fuel 17% oil 30%cast70%syn for type of oil

if i can get a gallan or two od pure nitro fuel stuff no oil
and add say 10 to 15% wich if im right boost it to
25 to 30% fuel like 8 to 10 % oil
can i do this u think.
im trying to save sum $ on fuel i got no planes at the
moment and got lots of plane fuel.

bigbadbowtie

Nitro RC.com has a fuel blending calculator.


NitroRC.com Custom Fuel Blend Recipe:

According to the figures you just gave us, your current fuel has, 15% nitro content and 17% oil content, leaving 68% methanol.

You have indicated that you wish to increase your nitro content by 10% to a new total percentage of 25% and your oil by -2% to a new total of 15%

In order to accomplish this you will simply need to add 17.1 ounces of nitro and 0 ounces of castor/synthetic oil to your 128 ounces of fuel.

When you're done, you should end up with 145.1 ounces (1.13 gallons) of newly blended, custom fuel.

Custom Blend Results
Starting Nitro: 15% Add oz Nitro 17.1 Ending Nitro: 25%
Starting Oil: 17% Add oz Oil: 0 Ending Oil: 15%
Starting Mthnl:
68% - - - - - - - -
Ending Mthnl: 60%


You can buy quarts of nitromethane from www.s-whobby.com/
Call and ask for Stan. He will work with you.

RC everything

thanks ill be doing this later this week.

rascal_man

y dont u just go to the model shop and by some fuel for ur car thats wat i do

rascal_man

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i would if my lhs wasn't a useless pos.
he only stocks crappy cheap electric flight stuff no fuel will not even order me sum.
mu nabour owns a summer house up hear and he lives in vancover so i get him to
bring me fuel.
but at care fuel 30$ thats about 120$ for 4 well if i spend maybe 40 to 80$ ill
have just as good fuel and more.

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hears the prices i got on fuel throe apollo bobbies

top fuel
33% $ 41.95 a gall
top fuel and bule thunder
20% $39.95 a gall
thees are the only car fuel i can get my hands on other than plane fuel
i got acces to a buddy of mine to pick them up.
all other shops Will Not ship fuel in less i buy 10 cases.
im gonna see about the full size race tracks if they got sum 100% nitro.
but no shops so fare has it.
nitro RC im sure will not ship the 100% nitro.

RC everything

i emailed my buddy if any one can get nitro 100% its him.

rascal_man

i get my fuel nitro tecnics for £10.99 nut im from england and dont no wat the prices are like in the u.s

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ya at 45$ a gallon add about 35 to 40$ for shipping its not worth it i may as well blend my
own fuel 100% lol.i pay 18$ a gallon of plane fuel.
any way i do have a hard time getting fuel hear im pretty much on a iland for those
hom know ware Powell river is.
i usually buy 2 to 4 gallons at a time and have my buddy bring it to me.
saves on shipping.

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hey guys
i broke my engein in on omega 15% it ran fine but after about 3 tanks u need
to retune and go to car fuel. it starte to run kinda crapy.
it dosint over heat the motor.
last thing any one know if the .28 out of hell cat will fit in jato 3.3.

bigbadbowtie

I highly doubt its the fuel causing your tuning issues. Might want to check for other issues 1st before blaming the fuel.
I have never had any issues running Omega fuel.

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ok i will but it is 15% thats why im thinking it