No more flying Figure M .......
08-30-2011, 06:33 AM
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I'd rather see FAI get rid of snap rolls. After the video I saw from the WC, to say anyone is really snapping their airplanes is a stretch, and it then just becomes a game of who can cheat it the most without getting caught. It's hardly a 'precision' maneuver.
08-30-2011, 08:16 AM
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RE: No more flying Figure M .......
there where very good (but very few) snappers at the worlds like Beschroner or Ulsamer from Germany...
Beschroner's snaps are 100% by the book...
Beschroner's snaps are 100% by the book...
08-30-2011, 09:25 AM
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ORIGINAL: Eggert
Last weekend = Last time flying the horrible Figure M
and may we never see such a manouver again in a P program, period !
Last weekend = Last time flying the horrible Figure M
and may we never see such a manouver again in a P program, period !
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08-30-2011, 03:55 PM
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RE: No more flying Figure M .......
Not the last time for me I'm afraid, for some strange reason I can grease through it every practice, but come competition day I almost always make a meal of it.
08-31-2011, 02:36 AM
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ORIGINAL: wattsup
We call that ''choking''.........touche
We call that ''choking''.........touche
You can call it Susan if you like but it doesn't make it any easier to deal with!
08-31-2011, 04:19 AM
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Renegade, last fall I had problems with the figure M and found I was trying to do too much at one time. I backed off and started practicing the "parts" (small bites) of the maneuver and over several flight sessions, the "parts" became a complete "meal" as you say. If the figure M was easy, everyone would want it included in their particular class flight schedule. I, for one, am glad the figure M is part of the schedule I fly and feel between the figure M and 3 rolls reversed with all it's peices and parts serves to make me a better overall pattern flyer. Wish you well as usual_Everette
09-03-2011, 09:18 PM
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ORIGINAL: Doug Cronkhite
I'd rather see FAI get rid of snap rolls. After the video I saw from the WC, to say anyone is really snapping their airplanes is a stretch, and it then just becomes a game of who can cheat it the most without getting caught. It's hardly a 'precision' maneuver.
I'd rather see FAI get rid of snap rolls. After the video I saw from the WC, to say anyone is really snapping their airplanes is a stretch, and it then just becomes a game of who can cheat it the most without getting caught. It's hardly a 'precision' maneuver.
One or two snaps in an entire sequence is about the right number... (in my little irrelavent and humble opinion)
09-04-2011, 03:55 AM
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Doug, I agree. Watching this video, it confused me a lot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ7p4ACRuHg&feature=player_embedded#!
Perhaps I do not know nothing about snap rolls, but, I hardly believe that maneuver number four, the upline snap, is really a snap roll !!
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09-05-2011, 08:01 PM
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ORIGINAL: vbortone
Judges could have a complete different opinion.
VB
Judges could have a complete different opinion.
VB
I think these F3A pukes need to stop whining and take their medicine. Don'tcha think??
09-05-2011, 11:49 PM
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RE: No more flying Figure M .......
I flew my last M on saturday and I was glad to be done with it. but now, I kinda think I'm going to miss it. It taught me a lot, and made me a better pilot.
When we're out hot-dogging at the field, we can all say "hey, watch me stall-turn into an inverted rolling half-loop!", and we'll see some raised eyebrows when we do just that.
When we're out hot-dogging at the field, we can all say "hey, watch me stall-turn into an inverted rolling half-loop!", and we'll see some raised eyebrows when we do just that.
09-06-2011, 03:30 AM
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ORIGINAL: MTK
Vince,
I think these F3A pukes need to stop whining and take their medicine. Don'tcha think??
ORIGINAL: vbortone
Judges could have a complete different opinion.
VB
Judges could have a complete different opinion.
VB
I think these F3A pukes need to stop whining and take their medicine. Don'tcha think??
09-06-2011, 08:31 AM
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ORIGINAL: Rendegade
What?
ORIGINAL: MTK
Vince,
I think these F3A pukes need to stop whining and take their medicine. Don'tcha think??
ORIGINAL: vbortone
Judges could have a complete different opinion.
VB
Judges could have a complete different opinion.
VB
I think these F3A pukes need to stop whining and take their medicine. Don'tcha think??
09-06-2011, 09:19 AM
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Matt, some folks thought I was being a bit tough when I used the name "pattern hack" in another thread somewhere around here. Compared to you, I could stand to take some lessons! You are BRUTAL! But, like my old man said years ago, "if the shoe fits, wear it"! As I said earlier in this thread, the figure M maneuver has generally helped me to become a better pattern flyer. Just my thoughts, Everette
09-06-2011, 11:38 AM
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Forgive my ignorance, but is the committee banning the maneuver or something? You're all talking about the Figure "M" as if it's gone forever.
09-06-2011, 01:29 PM
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The Rolling Figure M is in the P-11 sequence that ends this year. Next year we will fly P-13/F-13 in F3A. That doesn't mean the Figure M might not come back some time in the future, OR appear in the AMA Masters schedule at some point. (evil grin)
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09-06-2011, 02:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: woodie
The Rolling Figure M is in the P-11 sequence that ends this year. Next year we will fly P-13/F-13 in F3A. That doesn't mean the Figure M might not come back some time in the future, OR appear in the AMA Masters schedule at some point. (evil grin)
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The Rolling Figure M is in the P-11 sequence that ends this year. Next year we will fly P-13/F-13 in F3A. That doesn't mean the Figure M might not come back some time in the future, OR appear in the AMA Masters schedule at some point. (evil grin)
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