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Old 07-14-2016, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MTK
Scott, I can't see how. The engine easily hauled the 21"x10 woodie hybrid turning just about 7k on avgas. It sounded happy. But I only ran it briefly then switched to the lower load.

A couple years ago i had also tried a 19x13 woodie hybrid with wider blades and the engine met its match there, bogging down to around 6500 and running hotter than normal. Too much load and definitely more than my 21x10 hybrid. Wasn't happy and you can tell. My 21x10 is a true narrow blade design.

I think Ken is right. When I installed the new set of clips I probably didn't seat them properly. I don't buy what Hobby Services said about the bearings being bad with shrapnel in them.
Yeah , it was just a thought Matt.

I doubt the circlip theory. Even though I do insert these circlips the way Ken said, they wouldn't just come out if put in the other way 'round. Even with excessive force, the circlip wouldn't come out without there being visible damage to the circlip groove, unless it wasn't inserted into the groove properly, or the groove isn't deep enough which would be unlikely.
After I insert circlips, I always squeeze together slightly and turn it. If it's seated properly, it will turn easily. if not, then it won't turn.

Still a very strange failure though.
Old 07-16-2016, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MTK
Gary, nothing new to report. I commissioned another 33 in my Delta and it's working the same outstanding way my first one did. Same carb and pipe settings as the first. It has about 6-7 gallons through it or about 100 runs. I used the 20.5x10 PN on this one.

Delta has been in the shop lately for a face lift so no recent flying.

Ron had a lot of issues with his 33's, enough so to move to the much less expensive EME line. The DA 35 also had some issues according to Ron.

if you don't have a plane for your engine yet, consider buying my nib Shinden
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Message me with your asking price.

Thanks, Gary
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Does anyone have the link to the material used in the making of the tuned pipe coupler in this post? http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-p...l#post11229262
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Try this thread: DERIVATIVE, New 2X2
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This should link you to the copper rtv gasket maker
https://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/122/3463/=15r71j0

u want the permatex 81878, can also pick this up in most auto parts stores.

This should be the material used. I used the 1".
https://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/122/851/=15r724i

This is the teflon tape used to wrap your mold. I used a 1/2" alum wing tube. Also wrap around the outside to hold shape while setting up.
https://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/122/3488/=15r72bu

Pair of gloves and wax paper for the table is advisable as it is pretty sloppy while doing. I'd recommend two wraps if using the 1" material. A single wrap blew out on me, but they work great.

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I guess I'm not following. I thought it was a fabric like material that was wrapped several layers, each one getting a pasted with rtv gasket maker.

rm it tubing is used what do you mean by two wraps? One tube install another?

Thanks guys for helping explain this.
Old 01-03-2017, 03:01 PM
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Don't use it as a tube. Use shears and cut it to the length u want, then cut it again to open it up as one flat piece which u will work the paste into and then wrap.
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Gotcha, thank you for clarifying.
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This looks like a dead thread, especially considering the original post. What's next? How about a 4-stoke, regular gas engine???
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Originally Posted by time907356
This looks like a dead thread, especially considering the original post. What's next? How about a 4-stoke, regular gas engine???
Matt Kebabjian passed away last year.
Old 11-06-2017, 08:40 AM
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there is a lot of good information on this thread. i hope it stays open for future reference
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"Me" also, Bought one from T.H. while back and haven't used it yet. Always nice for review. Sorry to hear of MTKs' demise.
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Matt was a good friend and a very talented modeler. We all miss him quite a lot.
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Yes Ed, my buddy Sergio Zamora knew him personally and I talked to him a few times over the phone and bought some top quality stuff from him. Matt Kebabjian is missed in the R/C community. He was a true artesian type modeler. RCU please keep this thread open as an honor to his legacy and contribution to the community.
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Old Aeroslave got a transplate. OS 33 replaced a YS 170 CDI. CG with the OS came out exactly where the YS was.


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Old 04-28-2020, 09:22 AM
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Always wanted to use a engine but not YS as my budget is not that high... but I wonder how would a OS gas engine perform against the YS in terms of torque & why not many people are using a gas engine in a F3A plane? any idea please help..
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Originally Posted by highfly3D
Always wanted to use a engine but not YS as my budget is not that high... but I wonder how would a OS gas engine perform against the YS in terms of torque & why not many people are using a gas engine in a F3A plane? any idea please help..
There was a person using this engine in the 2019 NATS.

I'm at 800 feet sea level and the OS GT 33 turns a APC 19x11 at solid 7500 rpm in the setup pictured. I'm using a ES Composites 35G pipe.
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Originally Posted by computermonkey
There was a person using this engine in the 2019 NATS.

I'm at 800 feet sea level and the OS GT 33 turns a APC 19x11 at solid 7500 rpm in the setup pictured. I'm using a ES Composites 35G pipe.
Ryan Gonsoulin flew his OS33 at the Nats. Plenty of power. My Pentathlon with a DLE 35ra with a canister is not quite as powerful, but has the power to fly Masters. You just want to enter the uplines with some energy. Maybe with a pipe it would be the same performance as Ryans.
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Originally Posted by highfly3D
Always wanted to use a engine but not YS as my budget is not that high... but I wonder how would a OS gas engine perform against the YS in terms of torque & why not many people are using a gas engine in a F3A plane? any idea please help..
I don't think any 2 stroke gas engine will ever have the torque of a 4 stroke YS. The mid-range punch of the YS is awesome, especially the 185 and 200.
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Originally Posted by highfly3D
Always wanted to use a engine but not YS as my budget is not that high... but I wonder how would a OS gas engine perform against the YS in terms of torque & why not many people are using a gas engine in a F3A plane? any idea please help..
2 strokes on a pipe, always get that jump when they come onto the pipe and don't have the torque as YS.

YS, especially the cdi versions, produce more mid range torque, so can swing bigger props at lower revs. They also provide better down line braking and much easier to get constant speed.

Overall, YS will out perform the OS.
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Originally Posted by highfly3D
any idea please help..

What questions do you have?

This set up (OS 33, header and ES pipe) is about half what a YS 200 is. Easy to set up and low maintenance. Half the vibration too.

What kind of airplane are you looking at or have?
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Originally Posted by computermonkey
What questions do you have?

This set up (OS 33, header and ES pipe) is about half what a YS 200 is. Easy to set up and low maintenance. Half the vibration too.

What kind of airplane are you looking at or have?
I am building a F3A mono plane 2X2 meter but have to decide what engine to use... as there are less options available in engines.. & I do not prefer to use electric motor...
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The OS 33gt is a long stroke and as such in my opinion has a slightly better torque band than the other gas engines of its size. Ryan spent some time tuning the mid range and it ran really well until a ring gave away. OS replaced the motor and he has since installed and flown but only a couple times due to work and winter/spring off season. I saw big G fly his with DLE and performance was excellent considering it was near 11lbs (I think) and setup on a canister..sound was fine too. The DLE with rear exhaust is definitely a cleaner/easier install and the header may indeed hold up better over time. Computermonkey, I would like to see more details of your soft mount.

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Computermonkey, I would like to see more details of your soft mount.

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Please see this link on what was done. I was able to directly replace the YS In the same space. Don't get me wrong I like YS engines my favorite being the 175 sport with cdi and the 115 sport cdi.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...of-a-softmount
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Originally Posted by computermonkey
Please see this link on what was done. I was able to directly replace the YS In the same space. Don't get me wrong I like YS engines my favorite being the 175 sport with cdi and the 115 sport cdi.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...of-a-softmount
The soft mount looks fantastic....


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