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Old 09-12-2013, 12:21 AM
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Applying micro glass added 5 gram (19.9+19.0-17.3-16.6).

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Painting.

Total finishing process added 15.7 gram (24.6+23.8-16.1-16.6)


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Old 09-12-2013, 09:24 PM
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:28 PM
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:34 PM
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:39 PM
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Model final weight without motor battery – 3,706 gram.

Model final weight with DUALSKY battery (4,600 mah 25C - 978 gram) – 4,684 gram.

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Old 09-12-2013, 10:19 PM
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To avoid unwanted flexibility of the plastic horns I make new ones from aluminum, and to avoid the servo meal gear tolerance, I changed the servo to a plastic gear servo.

The final weight of the all system is now 163.2 gram (134.2+29.0).

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Old 09-20-2013, 03:53 AM
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Hello
Today I flew with Isaac Najary, And I saw the Najarylyzer In action
At a time when the plane dive Isaac runs the air brakes . and have to see it to believe
The Plane diving vertically at a constant speed and slowly Like a parachute attached to his tail
Very impressive

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Old 09-20-2013, 03:59 AM
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Would you guys please make a video....it would be cool to this in action..
Old 09-25-2013, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dansy
Would you guys please make a video....it would be cool to this in action..

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Old 09-28-2013, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dansy
Would you guys please make a video....it would be cool to this in action..
Najarylyzer in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJF6h...ature=youtu.be

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Old 09-28-2013, 06:45 AM
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Thank you very

ps; a small mono leg tripod would removed the shakes
Old 09-28-2013, 12:48 PM
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Nice video, you can definitely see the difference with the brake on and off
Old 09-29-2013, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rgreen24
Nice video, you can definitely see the difference with the brake on and off
After watching the movie I made some calculations (all the dives started and ended at about the same altitude):

Dives without any brake takes about 7 seconds.

Dives with the air-brake and the motor brake takes about 10 seconds – it is 43% longer then without any brake (10/7-1).

We did not film dives only with motor brake but I cam estimate that only with motor brake is somewhere in the middle.

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It's a great innovation, and I'm sure a few guys are thinking about there own version, and it certainly has provoque some more thinking on the possible application of similar devices in F3A.
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I search this forum on "air brake" and found this thread. The finishing and all the machining technique is way more advanced than what I could do but I like the idea.

My Monolog 1.6m tends to land really hot. It doesn't bleed off speed. And at my club, I have to approach over 60-70' trees, have 400' to glide, and then a 400' grass runway. I see at least two planes a season go into the trees on approach because the pilot misgauged altitude or range so I always leave some safety room and then I almost always land way to fast.

The Monolog is a low end plane with parallel sides. I'm running through my head how I might be able to build something like this as all I'd need is a straight rod through the airframe. Maybe just monocoated balsa and a 3-5mm carbon rod and 12g servo would do it. Might make a fun project if I can just get my bench cleaned up enough to do some work.
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Originally Posted by learn2turn
I search this forum on "air brake" and found this thread. The finishing and all the machining technique is way more advanced than what I could do but I like the idea.

My Monolog 1.6m tends to land really hot. It doesn't bleed off speed. And at my club, I have to approach over 60-70' trees, have 400' to glide, and then a 400' grass runway. I see at least two planes a season go into the trees on approach because the pilot misgauged altitude or range so I always leave some safety room and then I almost always land way to fast.

The Monolog is a low end plane with parallel sides. I'm running through my head how I might be able to build something like this as all I'd need is a straight rod through the airframe. Maybe just monocoated balsa and a 3-5mm carbon rod and 12g servo would do it. Might make a fun project if I can just get my bench cleaned up enough to do some work.
Have you tried aggressive forward slipping with high-rate rudder to help with burning off energy after you clear the trees?

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Not to take away from Isaac's great creativity but, for L2T, another option is Spoilerons. Pushing the ailerons up 5 to 10 degrees to kill some lift and add drag once over the trees may be helpful. Most radios can handle this easily and what ever pitch mix that may be required to maintain glide. I have but don't use a three position switch with flaps for takeoff, center for flight and spoilers for landing.
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Agree with Anthony on this one. That is the easiest way to do it without major modifications to the plane.

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I guess I might be hijacking this thread now. I read a tad about spoilerons and flapperons. I find spoilerons counter intuitive as planes use flaps to land. I did have flapperons on one of my light epp foamies. Didn't care for it much. The thing would land slow gosh darn slow withoutt flaps that flapperons were kinda stupid and flying that slow all I found they did was reduce aileron authority to almost nil.

I would have though flapperons is the way to go but I could program in spoilerons in about a minute. Then of course get three mistakes high, and play with them a bit.

But if I can finish to two projects on the bench now, I might play with the nararjilizer design just to see what it might do for the plane in general.

-l2t aka Ken
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Originally Posted by n233w
Have you tried aggressive forward slipping with high-rate rudder to help with burning off energy after you clear the trees?

Bill
Apply skill instead of technology? Doesn't sound like a 21st century solution to me.

More seriously, I do know if I'm a good enough pilot to pull that off. I'd have to practice it at attitude to get a feel for it before trying it on final. One more thing to play with sometime.

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Originally Posted by learn2turn
I guess I might be hijacking this thread now. I read a tad about spoilerons and flapperons. I find spoilerons counter intuitive as planes use flaps to land. I did have flapperons on one of my light epp foamies. Didn't care for it much. The thing would land slow gosh darn slow withoutt flaps that flapperons were kinda stupid and flying that slow all I found they did was reduce aileron authority to almost nil.

I would have though flapperons is the way to go but I could program in spoilerons in about a minute. Then of course get three mistakes high, and play with them a bit.

But if I can finish to two projects on the bench now, I might play with the nararjilizer design just to see what it might do for the plane in general.

-l2t aka Ken
You can't really compare foamies performance with a 2m pattern plane......my foamies will land from an elevator maneuver without any forward speed, I would try that with my pattern plane!

Adjusted properly spoilerons are perfect for this application, sliding the plane for somebody that's starting competition might be very overwhelming with the added pressure of scoring landing point.....one may setup the plane badly on final if there's a strong crosswind/turbulence and getting much worse when he then try to recover....

Flaps all they do is increase lift at a reduce speed, which in this case you would just need to dive even more, don't think full scale putting a full size in a slide is much easier and pretty natural since your ass will (should feel) what your doing
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Originally Posted by Anthony-RCU
Not to take away from Isaac's great creativity but, for L2T, another option is Spoilerons. Pushing the ailerons up 5 to 10 degrees to kill some lift and add drag once over the trees may be helpful. Most radios can handle this easily and what ever pitch mix that may be required to maintain glide. I have but don't use a three position switch with flaps for takeoff, center for flight and spoilers for landing.
I agree. I played with spoilerons this past weekend. Wow...what a difference in down-line speed. Another pattern flyer flew it and was equally amazed at how much they slowed the plane. Also, you can change the mix to an later/earlier start point on the throttle curve to assist in landings. Initially I didn't have it come on high enough on the throttle curve, but now it's close.
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Hey BG, welcome to the hijacked Najarlyzer thread. I saw your post on the RCG Monolog thread on the throttle->spoiler mix. I really want to try some of this stuff, I just have to wait for the rain to end.

-l2t aka K
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New video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zVICcyqkKc

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