2 cycle engine for F3A
05-05-2018, 10:54 AM
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2 cycle engine for F3A
Hello,
There are many electric motors for F3A, but is there a 2 cycle engine that can be used for F3A?? I have no plans to go with the electric f3a ... so please give me your suggestions.
Thanks,
Harry
There are many electric motors for F3A, but is there a 2 cycle engine that can be used for F3A?? I have no plans to go with the electric f3a ... so please give me your suggestions.
Thanks,
Harry
05-05-2018, 02:45 PM
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Hi Harry,
I'm assuming you mean 2 cycle glow. There are some gas options that have been explored (MTK worked with the OS 33GT, the DLE 35RA is another 'popular' option), but few are seen. As far as two stroke glow options, technically there aren't any current production engines available. The OS 160FX is pretty readily available (eBay or in the 'for sale' section of sites like this). You can still get wrap around headers and pipes. The Perry pump works well, too. Rear exhaust engines with built in pumps (Webra, OS, Mintor, Bully) are scarce, but you might get lucky with a want ad (especially in the K-Factor; the NSRCA publication). I run 2-strokes myself with excellent results, but you will have to modify most of the current models unless you scratch build (like the Lightning with modifications for the engine &pipe) or purchase a Japanese kit like the Ascent which is designed for glow (though the YS 4-stroke). I really like the 19x8 prop which keeps the speed down and provides pretty good downline breaking.
My 2 cents!
Good Luck,
-WIll
I'm assuming you mean 2 cycle glow. There are some gas options that have been explored (MTK worked with the OS 33GT, the DLE 35RA is another 'popular' option), but few are seen. As far as two stroke glow options, technically there aren't any current production engines available. The OS 160FX is pretty readily available (eBay or in the 'for sale' section of sites like this). You can still get wrap around headers and pipes. The Perry pump works well, too. Rear exhaust engines with built in pumps (Webra, OS, Mintor, Bully) are scarce, but you might get lucky with a want ad (especially in the K-Factor; the NSRCA publication). I run 2-strokes myself with excellent results, but you will have to modify most of the current models unless you scratch build (like the Lightning with modifications for the engine &pipe) or purchase a Japanese kit like the Ascent which is designed for glow (though the YS 4-stroke). I really like the 19x8 prop which keeps the speed down and provides pretty good downline breaking.
My 2 cents!
Good Luck,
-WIll
05-05-2018, 04:56 PM
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Hi Harry,
I run the YS 185 CDI Which is a four stroke supercharged and fuel injected engine.
These engines have had a lot of development and are now very powerful and reliable.
The Electric flyers seem to think that there is a huge advantage in their setup but I don't really see that especially when the wind picks up.
The bottom line is use whatever powerplant that works for you ......and practice practice practice.
PS The World Champion uses the YS Four stroke engine as well....and oh the bloke that came second does as well .
regards
I run the YS 185 CDI Which is a four stroke supercharged and fuel injected engine.
These engines have had a lot of development and are now very powerful and reliable.
The Electric flyers seem to think that there is a huge advantage in their setup but I don't really see that especially when the wind picks up.
The bottom line is use whatever powerplant that works for you ......and practice practice practice.
PS The World Champion uses the YS Four stroke engine as well....and oh the bloke that came second does as well .
regards
05-06-2018, 10:57 PM
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Hi Harry,
I'm assuming you mean 2 cycle glow. There are some gas options that have been explored (MTK worked with the OS 33GT, the DLE 35RA is another 'popular' option), but few are seen. As far as two stroke glow options, technically there aren't any current production engines available. The OS 160FX is pretty readily available (eBay or in the 'for sale' section of sites like this). You can still get wrap around headers and pipes. The Perry pump works well, too. Rear exhaust engines with built in pumps (Webra, OS, Mintor, Bully) are scarce, but you might get lucky with a want ad (especially in the K-Factor; the NSRCA publication). I run 2-strokes myself with excellent results, but you will have to modify most of the current models unless you scratch build (like the Lightning with modifications for the engine &pipe) or purchase a Japanese kit like the Ascent which is designed for glow (though the YS 4-stroke). I really like the 19x8 prop which keeps the speed down and provides pretty good downline breaking.
My 2 cents!
Good Luck,
-WIll
I'm assuming you mean 2 cycle glow. There are some gas options that have been explored (MTK worked with the OS 33GT, the DLE 35RA is another 'popular' option), but few are seen. As far as two stroke glow options, technically there aren't any current production engines available. The OS 160FX is pretty readily available (eBay or in the 'for sale' section of sites like this). You can still get wrap around headers and pipes. The Perry pump works well, too. Rear exhaust engines with built in pumps (Webra, OS, Mintor, Bully) are scarce, but you might get lucky with a want ad (especially in the K-Factor; the NSRCA publication). I run 2-strokes myself with excellent results, but you will have to modify most of the current models unless you scratch build (like the Lightning with modifications for the engine &pipe) or purchase a Japanese kit like the Ascent which is designed for glow (though the YS 4-stroke). I really like the 19x8 prop which keeps the speed down and provides pretty good downline breaking.
My 2 cents!
Good Luck,
-WIll
so I want to go with a 2 stroke engine...
05-06-2018, 11:07 PM
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Hi Harry,
I run the YS 185 CDI Which is a four stroke supercharged and fuel injected engine.
These engines have had a lot of development and are now very powerful and reliable.
The Electric flyers seem to think that there is a huge advantage in their setup but I don't really see that especially when the wind picks up.
The bottom line is use whatever powerplant that works for you ......and practice practice practice.
PS The World Champion uses the YS Four stroke engine as well....and oh the bloke that came second does as well .
regards
I run the YS 185 CDI Which is a four stroke supercharged and fuel injected engine.
These engines have had a lot of development and are now very powerful and reliable.
The Electric flyers seem to think that there is a huge advantage in their setup but I don't really see that especially when the wind picks up.
The bottom line is use whatever powerplant that works for you ......and practice practice practice.
PS The World Champion uses the YS Four stroke engine as well....and oh the bloke that came second does as well .
regards
The main reason to go with the engine is the power.. but at present my budget is low so not going for the YS... I know its a very good engine designed for F3A, so I move to another option of 2 stroke glow engine, going with electric was never on my mind... carry lot of batteries... cost... & less power & torque as in compared to an engine...
05-07-2018, 04:27 AM
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The petrol engine option is very attractive. Cheap, reliable, fuel up at the service station and no nitro proof finish. Plenty of engine options available now. OS can see the writing on the wall too.
05-07-2018, 05:30 AM
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Hi Harry,
I run the YS 185 CDI Which is a four stroke supercharged and fuel injected engine.
These engines have had a lot of development and are now very powerful and reliable.
The Electric flyers seem to think that there is a huge advantage in their setup but I don't really see that especially when the wind picks up.
The bottom line is use whatever powerplant that works for you ......and practice practice practice.
PS The World Champion uses the YS Four stroke engine as well....and oh the bloke that came second does as well .
regards
I run the YS 185 CDI Which is a four stroke supercharged and fuel injected engine.
These engines have had a lot of development and are now very powerful and reliable.
The Electric flyers seem to think that there is a huge advantage in their setup but I don't really see that especially when the wind picks up.
The bottom line is use whatever powerplant that works for you ......and practice practice practice.
PS The World Champion uses the YS Four stroke engine as well....and oh the bloke that came second does as well .
regards
05-07-2018, 11:46 AM
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Nice clean setup Claude. I ran a OS 33GT with pipe some years back to experiment with and never solved the coupler burning thru issue. MTK had a home brew coupler I tried but never had any luck with it.
05-07-2018, 02:56 PM
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05-21-2018, 09:40 AM
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When I got back in to pattern, the gas option seemed the most logical from a weight/price/performance point of view. Nothing was flying with gas in my district though, so I went electric with everyone else. What if the weight of a gas set up was the same as a YS; would it perform as well then? IDK what engine that would be; a 45-55cc I presume. Seems like that would level the field.
05-21-2018, 03:05 PM
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When I got back in to pattern, the gas option seemed the most logical from a weight/price/performance point of view. Nothing was flying with gas in my district though, so I went electric with everyone else. What if the weight of a gas set up was the same as a YS; would it perform as well then? IDK what engine that would be; a 45-55cc I presume. Seems like that would level the field.
Don't get me wrong though. A gas set up is something very worthwhile looking into. I've actually been going to set one up for some time, but haven't got around to it. Time poor at the moment.
I have a OS 33GT for that purpose. I have an Hatori muffler to try instead of a tuned pipe, to get away from the power jump you get with a tuned pipe. Maybe one day.
05-27-2018, 09:16 AM
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By performance, I mean overall flight performance, which encompasses everything. From smooth power delivery, downline breaking, throttle control to constant speed through out the schedule. A 2 stroke can't do all that as well as a YS does.
Don't get me wrong though. A gas set up is something very worthwhile looking into. I've actually been going to set one up for some time, but haven't got around to it. Time poor at the moment.
I have a OS 33GT for that purpose. I have an Hatori muffler to try instead of a tuned pipe, to get away from the power jump you get with a tuned pipe. Maybe one day.
Don't get me wrong though. A gas set up is something very worthwhile looking into. I've actually been going to set one up for some time, but haven't got around to it. Time poor at the moment.
I have a OS 33GT for that purpose. I have an Hatori muffler to try instead of a tuned pipe, to get away from the power jump you get with a tuned pipe. Maybe one day.
09-08-2018, 10:39 PM
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Hello Tony
Link of building plane and info :
Consultar mais detalhes com Sidi email [email protected] Fone 51 33441920 ou Eduardo Gatto WhatsApp +55 51 992079073
http://www.acrobatico.com.br/f3a2015.htm
Claude
Link of building plane and info :
Consultar mais detalhes com Sidi email [email protected] Fone 51 33441920 ou Eduardo Gatto WhatsApp +55 51 992079073
http://www.acrobatico.com.br/f3a2015.htm
Claude
