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Old 01-29-2004, 07:40 AM
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Hi guys I am going to get my panacea in the mail in about a week so i am starting a discution/build forum for it.

I will be useing the following:

Mintor 170
ES pipe
Hitech 562 Rudd.
Two 524 elv.
tower Ts-35 throt.
ali ?????
duralite 1900Ma



Cant wait!

Chris
Old 01-29-2004, 07:47 AM
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Chris

I have to ask...how is it that a 14 year old can afford all of these planes?
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Chris..

Do not run a cheap servo on the throttle. You will regret it. The throttle is just as important as any other control on the aircraft. While you don't need a lot of power here, you DO need precision and reliability.
Old 01-29-2004, 09:54 AM
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Sounds great! If you can, please weight the fuse, canopy and engine hatch before you begin to work on it. I am very curious how that weight compares to the PL, ZN stuff.

Thanks! And have fun.
Old 01-29-2004, 11:30 AM
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Billy
I am not the type to promise you anything. I would take a plane of this caliber and expose it to as many fliers possible. We would have a nice video of the plane showing in between flights while the new plane would be displayed at our trailer for fliers to look at. Of course we would need more of these to carry with us as I am sure we could sell a fair amount for you. What more could you ask for?? How many would we need to buy to get a break on pricing? Thanks for your time. Does this plane fly as well as it looks???
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Tony F.
Where are you located in Cal. I have flown at the works field with you and Harry before. We are back in San Diego......
Old 01-29-2004, 03:06 PM
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i sold all my legos and have been saving for 2 years, doug what servo do you suggest? and does any one have any ideas about a good aliron servo that is under $50....i would perfer that it is not digi for power reasons and analog still are good.
Old 01-29-2004, 04:28 PM
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For non digital aileron servos, the Futaba 9101's are hard to beat. I use them on ailerons in my Zen 90. Servo City is out of stock right now, but their prices are hard to beat.


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Chris,

Take a look here.. I know you commented on digitals.. but this might change your mind a bit..

http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=JRPS811

-Doug
Old 01-29-2004, 05:45 PM
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If it was me and on a budget.
3m 140 instead of the 170 savings $166
3m aluminum instead of ES 80
If you don't already have the charger
regulator and tester for the duralites
1100 Nicd or 1000 NiMH all the
standard charger and tester, no reg 152
total savings $398

Buy better servos don't have to be the best but better Doug made a good point on the JR's.
and buy more fuel.

Steve Maxwell
Old 01-29-2004, 07:50 PM
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If you are on a tight budget, spend the $$ on the best servos you can afford. Skimp somewhere else. Cheap servos can make a really nice plane fly like poop.
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Ya I am trying to get good servos but even with the other cheaper end stuff i still dont have alot left over but i will get atleast good sevos. BTW i looked a the 9101 it is $50 for a servo with less torque and speed than alot cheaper servo.....i have some 9001's though and theyre ok.
Old 01-29-2004, 10:25 PM
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There are often good used JR 4131 servos on this page's market and on Ebay. I just replaced the 9101 aileron servos in my 2M with JR 4131 servos and got a noticeable difference in the "feel". I am very happy with it. The 9101s will now go in my 60 size ship.
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Servos are the link between your fingers and the physical reality of what goes on up there.
Don't Skimp on any of the servos. Take the time and save for the better servos. I know its overkill, but I run hitec 5945's on the elevator & rudder, with 5925's on the ailerons, this on a seduction freestyle (45 size). The way I see it, in pattern you want the servos doing exactly what you say when you say. Ie no blowback, and fast response time. You can never have too much speed, torque or accuracy.
Just look at the sort of servo's CPLR runs in a fun fly!!!!!! There's the story right there!!!!
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I have been waiting to hear how the kit looks. Have you recieved it yet? Keep us posted!!!
Dave
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Some panacea pic's
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Old 02-12-2004, 07:35 AM
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the guy who was working on mine was sick, so I have to wait alittle longer. I'll let you guys know when it comes in.
Old 02-20-2004, 10:42 AM
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where's my airplane, I think its coming in today guys. i'll let you know. right now my dad wont let me buy the engine till the plane gets in........Eric, have you any new updates with your latest quest? I am just waiting on a header and LG for my new one.
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The fuse is here, rest should be here tomorrow. here are some pictures. weighs about 28 oz i cant tell for sure cuz my scale only goes by half pounds but thats what it looks like.
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Old 03-02-2004, 04:34 PM
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got the rest in today, Thaere is a crap load of foam, but every thing looks good its all precut and stuff, now all thats left to come in it the instuctions.
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never mind
Old 03-04-2004, 12:43 PM
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I'd go with two Hiiek 545's. I love em, and they're 5 pole servos so the centering is ALWAYS dead on.
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Be careful building this plane. One of my best friends is a great designer/builder and he informed me that this plane will weigh in over 11 pounds if you arent really careful. As a matter of fact, the builder he discussed it with had actually built one and had to make new lighter wings to get the plane underweight. I know thats a ton of "he said she said" but hes a pretty reputable guy so I thought I wouold pass it on to you ..... Just a thought.
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I got my servos in on monday, and the rest of the kit, The wings stab and rud are precut, the foam is really light and the cuts a flawless. my engine pipe and mount should be coming in soon. I need about $420 to get the rest of my parts.
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Raptor,

I'd like to add to what BigNed said.

There are two ways to insure that the skins are bonded well to the foam cores;

1. Use about 1 1/2 oz of high viscocity epoxy resin.
2. Use about 3/4 oz of resin and vacuum bag them while curing.

I have a vacuum pump and it is one of the best investments I have made. Do the math, you can loose 3 oz. See if someone in your area has one.

As for the resin, I buy it from a store in CA that puts their name on it, so I can't help you there. The stuff is not cheep. it is about forty bucks for the quart size. Thiner resins like West System, Z-Poxy, or Slo-Cure tend to soak into the wood more, thereby needing more to do the job.


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