Red Baron Gary

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Take a look at the setup for pattern that's in the Jan `06 R/C report. Those are what I am going to use for sport and such.
Gary Smith
aka Red Baron Gary

krayzc-RCU

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we are talking bad to the bone with knife-edge I did not have to put a mix on this bird. This is the first bird that has not required any mix to fly true knife-edge. I have had some that only required a negative one or two for elevator or ailerons. I started with 15/21/30 on three different flight modes for the ailerons. I had to dial those babies down it was blazing fast on all settings. I now have 11/15/20. I can do sweet rolling elevators with the 20 degree 3d throws. Elevators come down very quickly. I did not have any rocking on elevators; I did not try any harriers. I did try a blender and a few walls. The plane tears up the walls. My blender went south and turned into a wing over wing type of spin. I will work that out on other flights. I like the CG at the factor setting of 7 7/16. Inverted flight is very good. The bird flys very clean, I did a few stall turns and big loops and they were very clean very little rudder input if any to do these movements. The wind was up pretty good for the maiden and the bird is knocked around on those gusts. I am running that 17 x 6 APC and on this bird it is very fast. I will also try a 17 x 4; I want to be able to keep my speed up for the IMAC/Pattern stuff for this bird. I did not try any waterfalls. I did try a t-roll and noticed that I am going need to be quick on up elevators as it want to fall forward for the one or two times I tried it. I think the wind has a lot to do with that move. Total weight is 9 lbs 4 oz. A few people that saw the vertical of the plane came over after I landed and commented, “I see you went with something bigger than the recommend Satio 100.� This bird takes so little of any input to get a response that I had to put expo on all my settings after the maiden to try to look smoother. I went with 20 on ailerons and 60-70 on elevator and 20/50 on rudder. I forgot to take the side things so I will have to check that out next time. I hope that the next time out I will not have any wind so that I can see what all is going on. This bird is one of those type of birds that will replace a few birds in your hanger that was a very easy to tell observation today.

LSP972

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Yes, I noticed that mine is wind-sensitive too. Must be the light weight; mine is 9 pounds 10 ounces dry.

And the control surfaces are incredibly sensitive; I had to cut 'way back on throw and go with 80% expo to slow the roll rate down to where I wanted it. 60% expo on elevator.

Agreed; I'm looking forward to flying it on a calm day. Gotta get that aileron trim thing sorted out though...

I would still like my question answered; why is this airplane less than desirable for Pattern flying?

krayzc-RCU

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Steve Campbell
any bird can be used that will perform the moves that are needed for your level; however, some birds as you know makes u look and feel better I think this showtime will be blown up and scaled down like the u can do so that all/everyone has one. look out showtiem and gas and showtime and a 46 os motor.

LSP972

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There already is a 40-sized ShowTime... its called the Goldberg Matrix...

JVB

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Anyone have a h-stab incidence problem with the Showtime. My left stab is +1.75 degrees when compared with the right stab. Anyone know where the reference line is and what the stabs should be compared to the reference. Thanks.

John VB

Magna

Is the HS475HB adequate for elevator. With 2 servo (one for each stab) it will have 71oz of torque for each stab. I don't do 3D and will be setting this ST for pattern type of flying.

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Are you saying that with this plane you can kill 3 birds with one sentence?

fastplane

Advent, I am considering the ST for a next plane. How is the plane working out?
I want a pattern flying type plane and also IMAC. 3D ok but already have a Funtana 40 size.
I am interested in your setup. I have a NIB OS 120 Surpass III w/pump. Is this what you are using?
The OS 120 w/pump has more stuff on the back and I question if it has room to fit in the fuselage?
I have 4 Hitec 645 metal gear servos.
Most likely put servos in tail if available.
Do you use the pull-pull cable?
Thanks

kregan

I went with the showtime for a in expensive pattern practice
plane for 3 reasons...

1) Don S. said it flew nice in the beginning of this thread.
1a) I have seen Don fly and respect his opinion.

2) I got a great price on the Showtime NIB from a Friend.

3) The OS 120 was free.... just needed bearings!

I do think it is a nice pattern plane if you turn down the throws
like Don recommended. That said I don't compete and I don't
think I am that great a flier. I have also never owned a true
pattern plane so I don't have anything to compare it to.

For servo's I used 5645 digitals but only because I could use them in
a larger plane in the future... the other guys here can comment on
digitals and if they are needed.

I also used SWB aluminum servo arms and ball links. Again so
I could use them on a larger plane so time.

I placed the rudder servo in the tail and it balanced fine with the
Rx pack (li-ion 2400mah) slightly behind the canopy line.
I used a simple regulated switch (MPI Miracle Switch) and it
has worked great... I can fly a couple of days without recharging.

I left the tank in the stock location since I did not have a pump
on my OS (free engine) a tank over the CG and a pump would be a
nicer setup.

I used the motor mounts that came with the plane... I slotted the screw
mounting holes to fit the wider OS engine... works great.

I added 2 thin washers under the left engine mount after a few trim
flights to correct the up-lines.

I set up the plane with tripple rates low is Don's recomended low,
mid it the H9's low rate in the manual, and high is the recomended
high or insane rate!

90% of the time I fly on the low rate and try to fly something that
looks like pattern!

fastplane

Advent, thanks for the info. That helps.