Venus II
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RE: Venus II
Throttled back today. Much better tempo now thanks I needed that. I found a potential replacement for the Venus II should I need it. Check out the Monolog 110.
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RE: Venus II
I have a question regarding prop size. I have an os 120 and broke my 17x6 APC prop that has been doing great. I went to our local hobby store and all they had were 17x8 competition props (APC). Not sure if there is any significant difference or not. It seems to me that I recall a discussion on props buried either in this Venus thread or another that said 17x6 was the max with this engine/plane combo and 17x8 was too much prop.
Thoughts any of you people?
Steve
Thoughts any of you people?
Steve
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Well just because someone flat out said it shouldnt be done, I a just about ready to mount up my Syssa 3Occ gas engine in the Venus. I weighed everything from my Saito setup and got 984 grams and my Syssa with the muffler and its 1050 grams. That not counting the ignition thou. Someone said putting a gas engine in the Venus would totally mess up it flight dynamics. I totally dissagree with that statement. That would only occur it the plane wasn't rebalanced which I am sure I will have to do. I should be able to get the tank over the CG and get my flight battery as far back as I can. The Syssa is really narrow and fit inside of the cowl nicely even with it Pitts muffler. I got second place in IMAC basic pulling a 14 bird with the Syssa so it should pull the Venus around. Well see and if it doesn't work out. Oh well
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I know the question above about props is an older post, but just wanted to throw in that I've been running my 120AX on a 16x6, and it is incredible. Throttle response is instantaneous, acceleration into loops and verticals is incredible.
I played with the YS 110 on a 16x6 and a 15x10 (15x10 was good but a bit too much for the engine on the fuel I was using). Played with OS 120AX and 16x8, 15x10. 120AX is a great motor, but I noticed a bit of lag trying to get to higher RPM. Once I got used to the quick throttle response of the YS, I was hooked. Found that the 2-stroke needed some time to accelerate before pulling into a loop or pulling out, where the 4-stroke just responded as needed. The 120AX performs just like the YS propped down to a 16x6.
Venus is an awesome plane for getting into pattern; I'd still have it if I had the ability to 'leave it alone' and stop trying pumps, supercharged engines, etc. I ended up moving to e-power (now LOVE it after 2 seasons of learning the tricks of the trade).
I played with the YS 110 on a 16x6 and a 15x10 (15x10 was good but a bit too much for the engine on the fuel I was using). Played with OS 120AX and 16x8, 15x10. 120AX is a great motor, but I noticed a bit of lag trying to get to higher RPM. Once I got used to the quick throttle response of the YS, I was hooked. Found that the 2-stroke needed some time to accelerate before pulling into a loop or pulling out, where the 4-stroke just responded as needed. The 120AX performs just like the YS propped down to a 16x6.
Venus is an awesome plane for getting into pattern; I'd still have it if I had the ability to 'leave it alone' and stop trying pumps, supercharged engines, etc. I ended up moving to e-power (now LOVE it after 2 seasons of learning the tricks of the trade).
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ORIGINAL: tele1974
Well just because someone flat out said it shouldnt be done, I a just about ready to mount up my Syssa 3Occ gas engine in the Venus. I weighed everything from my Saito setup and got 984 grams and my Syssa with the muffler and its 1050 grams. That not counting the ignition thou. Someone said putting a gas engine in the Venus would totally mess up it flight dynamics. I totally dissagree with that statement. That would only occur it the plane wasn't rebalanced which I am sure I will have to do. I should be able to get the tank over the CG and get my flight battery as far back as I can. The Syssa is really narrow and fit inside of the cowl nicely even with it Pitts muffler. I got second place in IMAC basic pulling a 14 bird with the Syssa so it should pull the Venus around. Well see and if it doesn't work out. Oh well
Well just because someone flat out said it shouldnt be done, I a just about ready to mount up my Syssa 3Occ gas engine in the Venus. I weighed everything from my Saito setup and got 984 grams and my Syssa with the muffler and its 1050 grams. That not counting the ignition thou. Someone said putting a gas engine in the Venus would totally mess up it flight dynamics. I totally dissagree with that statement. That would only occur it the plane wasn't rebalanced which I am sure I will have to do. I should be able to get the tank over the CG and get my flight battery as far back as I can. The Syssa is really narrow and fit inside of the cowl nicely even with it Pitts muffler. I got second place in IMAC basic pulling a 14 bird with the Syssa so it should pull the Venus around. Well see and if it doesn't work out. Oh well
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I'm wishing you good luck. Be nice to fly a contest and spend about $1.00 in fuel
I'm wishing you good luck. Be nice to fly a contest and spend about $1.00 in fuel
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RE: Venus II
Thanks to Krproton and a few others for help along the way,I should have done this conversion long ago. I will say this plane is awsome to fly with the OS 120 ax but the electric setup is awsome too and no cleanup as well. Here is just a few pics of the conversion as I had to build a removable turtle deck and make provisions for a battery as well as lighting it up a bit. For the most part what a difference.
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ORIGINAL: tele1974
Hey Corch. I remember the handle. I was flying the Venus, stinking up Sportsman at Weak Signals. It Patrick.
Hey Corch. I remember the handle. I was flying the Venus, stinking up Sportsman at Weak Signals. It Patrick.
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RE: Venus II
ORIGINAL: gaRCfield
http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/p...elid=EU1000IKN
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I'm wishing you good luck. Be nice to fly a contest and spend about $1.00 in fuel
I'm wishing you good luck. Be nice to fly a contest and spend about $1.00 in fuel
Honda EU1000 delivered to your door about $740 which includes shipping.
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ORIGINAL: CGRetired
Yeah.. right. a $1000 generator to save a bucks worth of glow fuel.
Yeah.. right. a $1000 generator to save a bucks worth of glow fuel.
The switchover to electric is not without cost, for sure, but in the long run it becomes much more competetive now that LiPo battery prices are becoming downright reasonable. Also the usual noise/messy fuel blah-blah-blah, but one thing that is true is that electric is a LOT easier on airframes and electronics. Servos will last several seasons. One can fly an entire season with about 300 flights and not have to tighten a single screw.
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For those who fly 2-meter pattern the ongoing fuel cost for glow can be enormous. Imagine burning 2 or 3 gallons of 20-30% nitro fuel per week!
The switchover to electric is not without cost, for sure, but in the long run it becomes much more competetive now that LiPo battery prices are becoming downright reasonable. Also the usual noise/messy fuel blah-blah-blah, but one thing that is true is that electric is a LOT easier on airframes and electronics. Servos will last several seasons. One can fly an entire season with about 300 flights and not have to tighten a single screw.
ORIGINAL: CGRetired
Yeah.. right. a $1000 generator to save a bucks worth of glow fuel.
Yeah.. right. a $1000 generator to save a bucks worth of glow fuel.
The switchover to electric is not without cost, for sure, but in the long run it becomes much more competetive now that LiPo battery prices are becoming downright reasonable. Also the usual noise/messy fuel blah-blah-blah, but one thing that is true is that electric is a LOT easier on airframes and electronics. Servos will last several seasons. One can fly an entire season with about 300 flights and not have to tighten a single screw.
D4 Contest was on the schedule on the NSRCA.us website if you go directly to the D4 district first, then look for calendar.
The Venus II is a totally awesome plane for getting into pattern flying. I remember my first flight, and the feelings I got after the first and second turn when I saw how straight the plane tracked. I was HOOKED!!!
I miss that plane. I really like my Sebart Wind, but never felt as locked in as I did with the Venus, though it is more maneuverable.
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Another advantage of greatly reduced vibration.
I checked re-charge mAh 2 or 3 times and was consistently using about 25mAh per flight flying Intermediate, and I'm sure it's not much more than that with Advanced.
I checked re-charge mAh 2 or 3 times and was consistently using about 25mAh per flight flying Intermediate, and I'm sure it's not much more than that with Advanced.
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That's what I do normally... take multiple packs, as in 8 or 9.
But at a contest it is nice to have the generator to keep recharging during the day so that in the evening you don't have to stay in the hotel room and tend chargers while the other guys are out having beer and watching baseball.
And even at home it's nice to have multiple chargers so you're not tending batteries all night!
But at a contest it is nice to have the generator to keep recharging during the day so that in the evening you don't have to stay in the hotel room and tend chargers while the other guys are out having beer and watching baseball.
And even at home it's nice to have multiple chargers so you're not tending batteries all night!