Wheel Pants - What are they good for??
05-18-2006, 04:14 AM
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RE: Wheel Pants - What are they good for??
Ed - thank you! You and I have pretty different "styles".... and who is to say one gains or loses points over the other?? Yet it happens... We each NAIL the four point.... but you're faster, a little softer hitting the points.... I'm crisper but slower in flight speed with my wheel pant spinning on it's axle because it came loose on takeoff....
WHO will get the better score??? [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
WHO will get the better score??? [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
ORIGINAL: Divesplat
MAN I LOVE Bob's posts!!!!!!
That super ontanium that comes unscrewed during flight so your landing gear bend and break etc etc etc.
I agree with the perception/presentation thing. I used to fly very fast (factor of the planes I was flying) but if a slow roll was centered, same roll rate, on a wire it should be scored without bias to speed. Should point rolls be quick and precise, or slow and gracefull?? The rules don't say.
If someone exits a spin 90 degrees off, but does it smoothly, do we not give the 6 pt MANDATORY deduction or do we say boy that looked good, lets give him a 7(happens all the time) Or do we say he screwed up 6 points but earned back 3 for S+G??
This could go on forever.
As far as Wheel Pants go, They are cool, and some say, supposed to add side lift to help with rolling and knife edge capability of a plane. Oh yeah, the're Purrrrty also.
Ed
MAN I LOVE Bob's posts!!!!!!
That super ontanium that comes unscrewed during flight so your landing gear bend and break etc etc etc.
I agree with the perception/presentation thing. I used to fly very fast (factor of the planes I was flying) but if a slow roll was centered, same roll rate, on a wire it should be scored without bias to speed. Should point rolls be quick and precise, or slow and gracefull?? The rules don't say.
If someone exits a spin 90 degrees off, but does it smoothly, do we not give the 6 pt MANDATORY deduction or do we say boy that looked good, lets give him a 7(happens all the time) Or do we say he screwed up 6 points but earned back 3 for S+G??
This could go on forever.
As far as Wheel Pants go, They are cool, and some say, supposed to add side lift to help with rolling and knife edge capability of a plane. Oh yeah, the're Purrrrty also.
Ed
05-18-2006, 07:58 AM
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RE: Wheel Pants - What are they good for??
Keith,
Glad to hear that about the EV... got any pics to post ?
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Glad to hear that about the EV... got any pics to post ?
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05-18-2006, 08:29 AM
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Keith,
Glad to hear that about the EV... got any pics to post ?
Keith,
Glad to hear that about the EV... got any pics to post ?
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If I can get my NiMH AA batteries charged! I had this great idea that I'd buy some of the Energizer AA NiMH batteries to save money on batteries around the house. I think I'll go back to the 24-packs of alkalines. . . Does anyone know if a digital camera will run on a 2-cell LiPo??
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05-18-2006, 11:01 AM
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ORIGINAL: mups53
By the way Chad your planes look like pieces of art. Mike
By the way Chad your planes look like pieces of art. Mike
You should see what I did to my Twister already [
] Collapsed the gear...put a hole in the wing (damn wheelpants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, no I am not kidding!, 5th flight)....had to retouch the paint up....PITA!I am gonna mount my CPLR wing for the contest this weekend though
Gotta get that presentation score up there LOL!!
05-18-2006, 11:11 AM
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Are you kidding! The Japanese...now those boys can finish a plane
You should see what I did to my Twister already [] Collapsed the gear...put a hole in the wing (damn wheelpants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, no I am not kidding!, 5th flight)....had to retouch the paint up....PITA!
I am gonna mount my CPLR wing for the contest this weekend though Gotta get that presentation score up there LOL!!
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By the way Chad your planes look like pieces of art. Mike
By the way Chad your planes look like pieces of art. Mike
You should see what I did to my Twister already [
] Collapsed the gear...put a hole in the wing (damn wheelpants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, no I am not kidding!, 5th flight)....had to retouch the paint up....PITA!I am gonna mount my CPLR wing for the contest this weekend though
Gotta get that presentation score up there LOL!!
05-18-2006, 05:40 PM
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RE: Wheel Pants - What are they good for??
.......Coming back to wheel pants, if you don't have them on your $$ Bird it like wearing an Armani suit with your pants up !! ....it just doesn't look right or give justice to that plane you've put so many hours of your time on !
05-18-2006, 06:27 PM
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RE: Wheel Pants - What are they good for??
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Just got back from the field. Three flights and the landing gear is still attached!! I don't think I'm going back to using wheel pants, so if any of you are judging me in the future just dock the points but don't tell me about it. . .
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Just got back from the field. Three flights and the landing gear is still attached!! I don't think I'm going back to using wheel pants, so if any of you are judging me in the future just dock the points but don't tell me about it. . .
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05-18-2006, 06:30 PM
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Yah, Keith.... don't be intimidated. Wheel pants only figure into that Presentation score, anyway.... glad you kept your legs under ya.... this is the Icepoint, right?
05-18-2006, 08:30 PM
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RE: Wheel Pants - What are they good for??
Bob,
Yes, I'm still flying the Icepoint. I made a few little upgrades over the winter to address some reliability / longevity issues. Hopefully I have it wired for the season. My little mishap on Tuesday just happened to give me one more - no wheel pants. I have another one in the garage that I'm planning on duplicating once I get this one dialed in.
Yes, I'm still flying the Icepoint. I made a few little upgrades over the winter to address some reliability / longevity issues. Hopefully I have it wired for the season. My little mishap on Tuesday just happened to give me one more - no wheel pants. I have another one in the garage that I'm planning on duplicating once I get this one dialed in.
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Hey Keith that pipe you gave me works geat, going to try to fly the Focus nest week
Hey Keith that pipe you gave me works geat, going to try to fly the Focus nest week
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I'm glad you're getting good use out of it. We need to get together for some pattern flying soon.
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RE: Wheel Pants - What are they good for??
We have this discussion at our Club too. Its about 6-2 in favour. I am one of the non believers and have a little saying I repeat anytime there is a problem with wheel pants.- " Fifty dollars, fifty grammes- both wasted"
Cheers,
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Cheers,
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05-24-2006, 06:18 PM
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We have this discussion at our Club too. Its about 6-2 in favour. I am one of the non believers and have a little saying I repeat anytime there is a problem with wheel pants.- " Fifty dollars, fifty grammes- both wasted"
Cheers,
CW
We have this discussion at our Club too. Its about 6-2 in favour. I am one of the non believers and have a little saying I repeat anytime there is a problem with wheel pants.- " Fifty dollars, fifty grammes- both wasted"
Cheers,
CW
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Maybe once I win a World Championship without wheel pants, it'll be fashionable to go without them. . .
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RE: Wheel Pants - What are they good for??
I Believe wheel pants are to an airplane what fenders are to a car. Go ahead and pull all the fenders off your car and drive it down the road and watch the reaction of people who see it. They're just adding weight and possibly improving its aerodynamics any way. Why do we spend so much time and money painting our planes also, Woulnt it be cheaper and easier to throw a few squirts of paint on to help distinquish top from bottom? While we're at it, why dont we mount the wing and stab servos on top so they are easier to service and make adjustments to? Is a pattern plane just an appliance with which to compete? I dont think so. An model airplane of any kind is a thing of beauty and source of pride to its owner/builder. A fixed gear pattern plane w/o wheel pants, is in my opinion just plain ugly.
My 2 cents.
My 2 cents.
05-25-2006, 08:31 AM
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Jimbo, you make a STRONG argument. If I went pantless, it would NOT be a thing of beauty, the reaction of viewers would be extremely powerful, and keeping my pants on has NEVER made me any prettier.... 
But your point is well-taken....thanks!
But your point is well-taken....thanks!
05-25-2006, 09:32 AM
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I Believe wheel pants are to an airplane what fenders are to a car. Go ahead and pull all the fenders off your car and drive it down the road and watch the reaction of people who see it. They're just adding weight and possibly improving its aerodynamics any way. Why do we spend so much time and money painting our planes also, Woulnt it be cheaper and easier to throw a few squirts of paint on to help distinquish top from bottom? While we're at it, why dont we mount the wing and stab servos on top so they are easier to service and make adjustments to? Is a pattern plane just an appliance with which to compete? I dont think so. An model airplane of any kind is a thing of beauty and source of pride to its owner/builder. A fixed gear pattern plane w/o wheel pants, is in my opinion just plain ugly.
My 2 cents.
I Believe wheel pants are to an airplane what fenders are to a car. Go ahead and pull all the fenders off your car and drive it down the road and watch the reaction of people who see it. They're just adding weight and possibly improving its aerodynamics any way. Why do we spend so much time and money painting our planes also, Woulnt it be cheaper and easier to throw a few squirts of paint on to help distinquish top from bottom? While we're at it, why dont we mount the wing and stab servos on top so they are easier to service and make adjustments to? Is a pattern plane just an appliance with which to compete? I dont think so. An model airplane of any kind is a thing of beauty and source of pride to its owner/builder. A fixed gear pattern plane w/o wheel pants, is in my opinion just plain ugly.
My 2 cents.
