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    NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    Since some of the links are live now at Fliton.com, I thought I'd start a thread on the New Inspire 90. I first saw this at the AMA convention in Jan 07. It's a beautiful plane, and designed for pattern. I'll post more as more information surfaces. I know some of us who has its smaller sibling rave of its awesome flying characteristics while bemoan its looks. Well, I think Fliton did a great job on this one. It has the classic Fliton flair while reserving a touch of modesty / maturity that I think pattern flyers would appreciate. After all, how can you get any respect if you have pink on your airplane ? I would definitely be interested in adding it to my hangar.






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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 F3A Pattern Plane

    Some Info on the Specs

    Wingspan 67.7 "
    Length 72.9"
    Weight 109 oz (minus battery)

    Powertrain recommendation:
    Hacker A50 16L
    APC E 18 x 10
    10S 20C 3700
    Price around 350 dollars

    Saito 125 will probably be a perfect match for this frame, as is the OS 120 AX for the glow flyers out there.

    Personally, I have an AXI 4130/16 with FP 4900 6S and I think it'll be a suitable match also when matched with a 16x12 or 17x10 APC-E prop
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    BoneDoc,
    Any links or info on pricing?
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    gorgeous airplane, cant wait to get one. I really like the covering job on this.

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    It would make a great practice plane. I'm in if the price is right.


    The AXi 4130/16 with a 18x12 prop on 6s Lipos would be more than enough power for this bird. I've got the same set up in another plane with similar weight.

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    something familiar there ---
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    You're right! The two planes right next to each other in that picture looks similar .

    In all seriousness, don't all pattern plane looks "similar"? The inspire has airfoiled tails, and definitely bigger side area.
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    This may be my way of breaking into electric. I love the looks and hope they don't price it outta sight.
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane


    ORIGINAL: dick Hanson

    something familiar there ---


    Not even looking at them in real life (not to mention the other views), just by looking at the side profiles, the airplanes look completely different. without a doubt. and if there are other fellow pattern flyers out there, you will know what I mean.

    this plane looks stellar, im in for one.

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    Al, I emailed Edson, and he told me that the price will be 350 dollars. It should be here in 6 weeks or so.
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    Yeah. Thanks. I called today and they told me between $350 and $400 with first delivery around May. Looking at battery costs I think I'll be throwing the 120AX from my Showtime into this one. I'm definately in. I don't really like the Showtime as a pattern trainer. This one looks much more promising for a Sportsman-wanna-be. Much more reasonably-sized control surfaces.
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    HI all I am very new to the pattern world i dont even know any patterns lol.. I would reallly like to buy a very nice pattern type plane. Would this INspire b the ticket. I want a plane that is very stable and easy to fly. Would a Saito 125 b ok for this plane. Would there b any mods necessary to route the exhaust. Keep in mind i dont know a thing about these type planes. I love the way these type planes look and i hope they fly as good as they look.. I have researched some and they r wayyyyyyyy too pricey for me.. Is this plane similar to the Venus 2.. Any and all advice would b appreciated.

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    Saito 125 would be perfect for it, and if you look at the bottom picture, they have a channel for the muffler already, so you don't have to hack on the fuselage for it. At any rate, no one here knows how it flies yet, but if it flies like the rest of the Fliton planes, it will be a winner for sure.
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    Wow...good news..i used to fly pattern and then got switch to electric helis. I have some 6S FP4900 packs I use in my trex600. This would be agreat choice for me so I can use my packs for pattern too. What would be the best choice for the motor? I am hearing the AXI 4130/16, but how about a hacker motor? which one? and also what ESC? ohh and what prop? I heard hacker are good motors..and don't know anything about axi. are they better? Sorry for so many questions, but a 6S pattern plane is what i was waiting for!!!! Please advice on the best 6S powerplant for this plane.

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    I have the Fliton Inspire 60. Its more of a 3D type plane but if the 90 is made anything like 60 it should be a geat plane for practice and the newbie pattern flyer. Fliton makes a quality ARF. They are light and preform well. Just make sure, like with any ARF, that all the glue joints are good.

    Look forward to seeing one those fly.

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    The Hacker equivalent will be A50 16S. However, if you're starting from scratch, I'd go for Hacker A50 12L and prop it to 17x10 or 17 x 12.
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    Thanks for the info. So, the hacker A50 12L would have more punch than the axi4130?. How about the ESC? Would the hacker master 48 be a good choice? Yes, I will be starting from scratch for this plane. I saw that the axi4130/16 and the jeti 77 opto ESC are less than 300 dollars..It looks atractive to me for the price, but I don't know if the hacker would be a better investment. [sm=confused.gif]

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    The Hacker can probably handle more amps without getting hotter. The Axi is probably at the limit of its ability with this plane. It's much more comfortable in a 6-7 lbs plane where it won't break a sweat at all. At this point it's hard to say what's the "hot" or "correct" setup given that we don't have the plane at hand yet, but Anything in the 1300-1700 watts should suffice. If I get this, I'm just going to use my AXI because that's what I already have .
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane


    ORIGINAL: manu2604

    Thanks for the info. So, the hacker A50 12L would have more punch than the axi4130?. How about the ESC? Would the hacker master 48 be a good choice? Yes, I will be starting from scratch for this plane. I saw that the axi4130/16 and the jeti 77 opto ESC are less than 300 dollars..It looks atractive to me for the price, but I don't know if the hacker would be a better investment. [sm=confused.gif]
    This is just my opinion but I don't think you would be happy with a 4130/16 and 6S with this plane (or the Hacker). I have a Fliton Inspire 60, powered with a (you guessed it) Axi 4130/16 and powered by an 6S EVO 5000 LiPo (turning a 17" x 10" propeller). While this combination provides unlimited vertical and quite a decent rate of climb, I'd recommend going with a slightly larger Axi and more importantly, 8S for this one. I am sure the 4130/16 will get it off the ground comfortably and you can push 8S as well but it would be at the top of its recommended wattage, better to be safe and go with a 5330/18, 90 Amp ESC so you can go wither 8S or 10S. Remember, you can re-use these components in other planes later, it's always better to go with a bigger ESC than you need...

    Again, just my opinion...

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    I have the 6S 4900 Evo already from my TRex. I've seen people push this combo to 1700 watts. The battery can certainly take more, even spikes to 2+ KW. So even at 1700, that's 200 watts/lb. My flights will be around 5-6 min or so with this combo, but I don't mind.

    I agree that if you're starting from scratch, 8S is probably better.
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    I am looking forward tohearing how this airframe adapts to Glow applications. I have a YS 110 that needs a home. Since I won't be buying a new plane till July or Augaust this airframe shhould see a glow install by then... I hope
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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane


    ORIGINAL: BoneDoc

    I have the 6S 4900 Evo already from my TRex. I've seen people push this combo to 1700 watts. The battery can certainly take more, even spikes to 2+ KW. So even at 1700, that's 200 watts/lb. My flights will be around 5-6 min or so with this combo, but I don't mind.

    I agree that if you're starting from scratch, 8S is probably better.
    My point was not really about the battery but the motor, the Axi 4130/16 is rated @ 1,250 watts max, it really isn't the best motor for this application. I have been flying electric (serious electric) for about 4 years now and have fried a couple of ESC's, puffed a few LiPo's and threw some magnets from several motors by runnig them too hot. I have learned over time that you should oversize your ESC and motor becucase you then have the option of running a higher cell count as well as having ample power and heat overhead. No doubt the EVO's pack a serious punch, especially the 50c fomula (I fly some 20/30's next the new 20/30/50's and the differerence is amazing) but the 4130/16 isn't the right motor for a plane exceeding 7 lbs (IMO) unless you are OK with pushing it @ 90%...

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    The thing is I already have the 6S evo packs for my trex. Maybe I need to look at a smaller/lighter plane, like a 60 size? I don't want to puff my packs either. The trex puts my packs for a good workout while doing some hard 3D, but I guess a plane will take even more?

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane


    ORIGINAL: manu2604

    The thing is I already have the 6S evo packs for my trex. Maybe I need to look at a smaller/lighter plane, like a 60 size? I don't want to puff my packs either. The trex puts my packs for a good workout while doing some hard 3D, but I guess a plane will take even more?
    Your 6S packs will be awesome in the Inspire 60. in fact, the inspire 60 is an incredible flying plane and since it costs 75% what your LiPo's cost each, you shouldn't really have to think twice about it. Inspire 60, Axi 4130/16, Jeti Spin 75 and a 6S will give you amazing performance...

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    RE: NEW Fliton Inspire 90 Pattern Plane

    Manu, imho, the TRex pack is more optimized for an 8-9 lb airframe (like the Inspire 90). I bet you can make it work for a lightweight setup for a Maxair Velox II, or H9 Showtime 90 as well.
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