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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    I sure wish Alex would reply to my repeated emails. I bought an Element 170 and it was delivered but without all the fittings. He said in an email that the box with the fittings would be shipped later. But three weeks later I'm still waiting and Alex will not reply to my emails. Can anyone out there who sees Alex or knows anything about this give me a hand? I want to get this thing done!

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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Just an FYI that might save the YS 160 & 170 faithful some headaches with the type of plywood mount in this aircraft . The Dave Brown isolation unit , IMO , is totally unsuitable for any YS larger than the 120. Had two of them in 120 sized ships and they were just adequate .

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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Tony,

    Maybe I can help with Alex. Maybe you're going into his spam or something. I got an email from him this morning. I'll pass on the info to him on this.

    BTW, I pretty much replaced most of the hardware in mine anyway. I'll shoot you an email if I still have your addy.

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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Tony,

    All I have is your nasa email. Not sure you still use that.

    I emailed him. Try calling him at 213-321-2997

    Shoot me an email and I'll give you some info if you'd like.. kfactoreditor@gmail.com

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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Hello
    Tony, I will see Alex this weekend, let me know what you need.
    An I will ensure that you get it.

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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Any reports yet,..................? Photos,........................?




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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Any ideas on recommended cg Jarvis? And I haven't found anyone with the long gear. Aero Products said a few weeks till they get them in stock.

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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    After 10 flights, here is set up my Element so far.

    Engine down thrust Cut 2mm for rear mount spacer.
    Wing incidence 0 degree.
    Stab incidence - 0.3 degrees.
    CG 185 from LE
    slightly up for Rudder-Elevator mix (No Aileron mix)
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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Fly man ... how about a flight report? How does she handle? What's your opinion? Are you smiling from ea to ear?
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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Very Nice Job!

    How about a performance update?

    Waiting on my composite version to get here,...will post an assembly thread and photos.[8D]


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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    It is still trying to set up now. I will let to you know when after 40 flights.

    Regards

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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    40 flights? I think it will be quite a while unless Chris has like 10 flight packs ... heheheehehe
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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Geezzzz,...................Just some general information about rolls, lines, snaps, how it handles in the wind, etc! That would be just Awesome!!




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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Would some videos be asking for too much? Heheehehehee
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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    You crack me up man!




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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Bill ... the problem with the world today is people don't share, now we have YouTube so it makes sharing videos around the world much easier!
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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    And I'm sure when he is more comfortable with the plane and his set-up, he'll report back to everyone... maybe even video if he has a friend there with him
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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Ok, I maidened mine today one flight after the contest was over. I had the throw's set up too high (which I knew) so the surfaces were touchy, which I don't like. I fly a soft stick normally. I didn't do a whole lot, and it's unfair to say how it flew as I had a temporary servo mount that I put in there break on an aileron. I did do a few things, but won't comment yet. Seems ok so far though. I'll report back with flights this week if work is slow. Maybe I'll fly it at the next contest in two weeks and get a video. I have to set it up, as Jason said, before I really want to comment much, or make a video. But soon.

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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Chris ... guess you are correct, sometimes we are so hasty to get a plane up and we do not really take it through its paces for a while to really know how it flies/performs. Hopeto hear from you again on what you think.
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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    I will find out some info this week. And I will be honest. I appreciate your patience. I was anxiously trying to get it ready to fly, and it probably could have used another couple of days worth of looking at it to make sure it was good to go, but I decided to test it today as there was some interest in seeing it fly. I'll have some data by the weekend for sure.
    It will do a knife edge loop with my low rate setting (which was too high for me for regular flight).. Not sure why I did one on the maiden, but someone mentioned it so I figured I'd try it.. Was quite the pucker factor coming down the backside wondering if there was enough rudder.. And wondering if I remembered to put all the servo screw's in, and so forth.. lol. Probably not the best scoring loop.. lol

    I'll get you some data soon. It's what I am working towards.

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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Hey now,...I'm not being pushy,.....I know there are more out there than just one. Please by all mean's take your time guys,...besides I want JAS to do the video,.... Maybe,..just maybe,.. I may have the BIpe with me and the composite 170 for Fla in Dec.


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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Thank you Chris for the update,.....take your time with it.[8D]




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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    Bill,

    If you bring them down in Dec, I'll bring the video camera out and film for ya
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    RE: Fliton Element 170

    December? Will it be in HD? Heheeheheeee ...
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    It's an HD camera...
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