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Old 10-17-2007, 05:53 AM
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Cuban 8, does it start at the bottom half loop 45 then roll? or 45 roll pull?
Old 10-17-2007, 05:59 AM
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Not sure exactly what you're asking but all maneuvers start and end with a straight horizontal line. So the Cuban 8 starts with the straight line entry.
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Cuban 8, does it start at the bottom half loop 45 then roll? or 45 roll pull?
Starts at bottom, 5/8ths loop to 45 degree downline, with a half roll in the middle of the downline. That's a half Cuban 8. For a full Cuban 8, enter the second 5/8ths loop at the bottom of the downline (same level as entry) and do another half roll in the middle of the downline and then radius to exit at the same entry level.

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This is it !
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http://home.online.no/~ofremmi/F3A/S...20analysis.htm

O.Fremming's site!

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Very helpful link Rune.
Thank you
Old 10-19-2007, 11:15 AM
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The one you decribed is the reverse cuban eight, starts in the middle, the cuban 8 star at the end with the loop then dive 45 in to a roll.
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Cuban 8, does it start at the bottom half loop 45 then roll? or 45 roll pull?
Starts at bottom, 5/8ths loop to 45 degree downline, with a half roll in the middle of the downline. That's a half Cuban 8. For a full Cuban 8, enter the second 5/8ths loop at the bottom of the downline (same level as entry) and do another half roll in the middle of the downline and then radius to exit at the same entry level.

Bob almost got it right....actually the second loop is not 5/8ths but 3/4ths loop. Plane flies past center, completes a 5/8ths loop, establishes a 45 down line, as it approaches center it initiates a half roll, completes the diagonal, proceeds with a 3/4 loop to the second 45 down diagonal.....etc.

Stavros ribbon drawing seems to show the half rolls before the diagonal intersects and that's misleading. Otherwise the sketch is very helpful. The half rolls must occur at the ceter of the diagonal lines as Bob wrote. The rolls must intersect at knife edge on center. For a complete list of downgrades go to the NSRCA website, under Judging or maneuvers, and look it up

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Roy right its not a reversed Cuban 8!
but i think rest is right!
Old 10-21-2007, 07:04 AM
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If it starts with a 45deg climb/dive then roll is a reverse Cuban eight, if it start with the loop is a Cuban 8, I guess I read it wrog on the first post.
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Hi
I lokked on FAI web ..could not find a updated sportingcode (p09 - f09).
but I'm alsmost sure its a cuban 8 not a rev.cuban 8 ...
Found this on a website .

Take off sequence
     (Not judge not score)
1) Double immelman, 2/4point first, full roll
  second, exit inverted.(K4)
2) Half reverse cuban 8, two 1/2 rolls in
  opposite direction inverted entry.(K3)
3) Three horizontal rolls in opposite
  direction.(K4)
4) Stole turn, 2/4 point roll up, 1/2 roll
  down.(K3)
5) Top hat, 4/8 point roll over top, exit
  inverted.(K4)
6) Half outside loop, inverted entry.(K1)
7) Triangle loop, with 1/2 rolls in each leg
   exit inverted.(k4)
8) Figure 9, two 1/2 rolls in opposite
  direction on down-line, inverted entry.(K3)
9) Stole turn, 3/4 roll up, 1ï½¥1/4 snap roll
   down.(K5)
10) Pull push push humpty bump, 1/2 rolls
   up and down, exit inverted.(K3)
11) Reverse 4 point roll, (2/4 point in one
   direction, 2/4 point opposite) inverted
  entry and exit.(K4)
12) Half square loop, full roll up, inverted
  entry.(K2)
13) Two outside loops from top, full
   integrated roll over top 90°of second
   loop.(K5)
14) Two turn spin, exit inverted.(K3)
15) Cuban 8, 4/8 point roll and full roll in
  45°down line.(K4)
16) Half Square loop on corner, 1/2 rolls
   45°up line, exit inverted(K3)
17) 45°down with negative snap roll, 1/2
   roll on exit.(K5)
  Landing seaquence (Not judge not score)
          Total K60
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this is maybe nice for printing !
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http://kobago.fc2web.com/sub_f3ap9.htm#
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default RE: cuban 8

ORIGINAL: MTK


ORIGINAL: cmoulder


ORIGINAL: Madflyer2

Cuban 8, does it start at the bottom half loop 45 then roll? or 45 roll pull?
Starts at bottom, 5/8ths loop to 45 degree downline, with a half roll in the middle of the downline. That's a half Cuban 8. For a full Cuban 8, enter the second 5/8ths loop at the bottom of the downline (same level as entry) and do another half roll in the middle of the downline and then radius to exit at the same entry level.

Bob almost got it right....actually the second loop is not 5/8ths but 3/4ths loop. Plane flies past center, completes a 5/8ths loop, establishes a 45 down line, as it approaches center it initiates a half roll, completes the diagonal, proceeds with a 3/4 loop to the second 45 down diagonal.....etc.

Stavros ribbon drawing seems to show the half rolls before the diagonal intersects and that's misleading. Otherwise the sketch is very helpful. The half rolls must occur at the ceter of the diagonal lines as Bob wrote. The rolls must intersect at knife edge on center. For a complete list of downgrades go to the NSRCA website, under Judging or maneuvers, and look it up

regards,

MattK
Oops, I see what you mean... the second loop actually begins on the way down to the entry level and so is 1/6 loop plus 5/8ths loop, which equals 3/4 loop.

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