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Old 11-17-2007, 12:29 PM
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clearly QQ is flying his. I will check if Onda is flying his Narlar or his Aries

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Old 11-17-2007, 01:00 PM
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Hey Guys,

I hope QQ wins, he so deserves to win, I just hope the best man does regardless !
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:19 PM
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no scores but I am toldcplr just flew a blinder. Onda and QQ were great too. Its going to the wire.

Onda is flying his Narlar bipe

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Old 11-17-2007, 01:19 PM
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Any more news B?
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:20 PM
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Well so much for the rumor that biplanes don't look right or can't handle the wind. Biplane sales will be going through the roof as the must have for next year.
Not to mention the growth of electrics, with CPLR flaming out in a critical round.
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It ain't the power source, it's the thumbs on the sticks that count
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:35 PM
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Yes, maybe, but QQ and Onda are both flying YS powered Bipes. We all need to throw everything away and start all over I guess.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:05 PM
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It ain't the power source, it's the thumbs on the sticks that count
Betcha' you'll think it's the power source when you get a flame out.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:13 PM
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I saw quite a few rounds lost this year by guys flying electrics. Batteries came loose in one case. Another lost a gear box on his hacker, I saw a blown ESC, and a couple of rounds lost in the early mornings because the batteries werent heated sufficiently. Just because you fly electric doesnt mean you wont have an issue...
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Trust me------ I am an IC man----period!

When full scale shows up with electric and/or the only way to fly in noise restrictions is electric I'll consider it.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:25 PM
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i've jsut sent a text saying that I and the RC Univers Pattern web users want to know what is going on. The prob I guess is that they will normalise and produce final results before releasing round 4. Told Kevin to hurry up.

Yeah YS powered bipe sounds great. I have my Adventure and 170 - just need to get it finished.

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Well so much for the rumor that biplanes don't look right or can't handle the wind. Biplane sales will be going through the roof as the must have for next year.
Not to mention the growth of electrics, with CPLR flaming out in a critical round.
I'm just kidding about this, obviously. It's just a poke at the herd mentality.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:33 PM
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sorry guys. I am out to dinner now. With the QQ Yak (DA50) on the dining table there is nowhere we can eat so out we are going.

I expect the results will be posted when I get back.

To me sitting from afar it seems like the best final ever.

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Old 11-17-2007, 02:36 PM
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Talking of bipes, that ZN Line Suxess never became much of a errr.. suxcess!!? Well I cant say I ever see or heard of anyone fly one?

Come on Onda!
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:43 PM
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I think it's a little premature to climbing on the Bipe band wagon just yet. QQ & Onda have certainly proved that bipes can be competitive, but what would be interesting to know is how specifically they are different from monoplanes. Or more to the point, what are the advantages, and what are the compromises when flying a Bipe.

Do they help in some manouvers, & hurt in others? The biggest difference in characteristsics as I see it are as follows:

Bipes have a shorter wing span than monoplanes, which could make snaps easier.
With two wings, maybe there's an opportunity to locate the stab so that it's not bothered by turbulence from the wings.
On the other hand, maybe it's harder to locate the stab so that it's not bothered by turbulence from the wings.
With two wings there's probably a noticeable increase in drag over an equivalent monoplane.
At a high angle of attack it's possible that the lower wing will block the airflow to the top wing, and makes stalls and snaps easier to enter and exit.
The biggest difference is that the Bipes that QQ & Onda are flying have 40% to 50% more wing area than the other monoplanes.

By my way of thinking the increase in wing area's got to make a difference somehow. According to my calculations QQ's Eurphoria is flying at 16 oz/sqft to 17 oz/sqft. If you match this with the power available from a YS DZ170 it's got to feel like a completely different airplane.
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Just got a Text Message

NEWSFLASH Quique wins , CPLR 2nd and ONDA 3rd.... congrats Quique
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:14 PM
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Is anybody has fresh news ?
CPLR QQ or Onda ?
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:24 PM
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1st QQ, 2nd CPLR, 3rd Onda...... 2 bipes in the top 3......
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Just got a Text Message

NEWSFLASH Quique wins , CPLR 2nd and ONDA 3rd.... congrats Quique

And the others ??? BPLR and Steph CARRIER ? any news ?
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Sorry just got the top3 I have asked for the rest.....
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Outstanding - Like Kimi in F1 this year, a deserving World Champion and what a great new advert for JR Propo
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:43 PM
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Back in '85 I watched a youngster fly a 4-roll rolling loop in the "waiting for the final scores" airshow in Flevehoff Netherlands, and predicted right then and there in print (Flying Models Magazine) that Quique would be World Champ some day. I rather meant that it was going to happen sooner than it did but I am so glad for Quique, his Dad and because now I will not have to eat my words.

Bravo! To all the marvelous finalists.

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Old 11-17-2007, 03:50 PM
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Wow!! Congrats to Quique. He's worked SO hard for this moment and in his home country no less (even though he's now a US citizen), and I'm sure the only regret he has is that his father couldn't share it with him.
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I saw quite a few rounds lost this year by guys flying electrics. Batteries came loose in one case. Another lost a gear box on his hacker, I saw a blown ESC, and a couple of rounds lost in the early mornings because the batteries weren't heated sufficiently. Just because you fly electric doesn't mean you wont have an issue...
The loose and/or over cool batteries are preventable. I'm not sure about the gear box and ESC.

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Old 11-17-2007, 04:01 PM
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Great going MR SOMENZINI this is an example where hard work and perseverance ware rewarded. My hat is of to a gentleman and a champion.

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