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Old 07-17-2008, 05:12 PM
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Hi all, just a simple and quick question

im using a ST 90 with 13x8 for pattern.....but would like to try a 14x8.....is it too much?

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any experience?

thanks

Old 07-17-2008, 09:43 PM
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Hi all, just a simple and quick question

im using a ST 90 with 13x8 for pattern.....but would like to try a 14x8.....is it too much?

5% nitro
any experience?

thanks

IMHO, stick with 13x8 14 x8 will likely end up at less than 10k RPM.

In which model are you using the engine? Anything more than about 7.5 lbs AUW and the vertical starts to suffer badly with a 2-stroke of this size.
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My 8.2 pound (dry) Model Tech Joss Stik w/ mid wing mod, flew straight up and outa sight with a cowled/inverted ST S90K/Magic Muffler using one of the older (not blunt edged) Zinger 14~8s. Ran it on 0% to 5% fuel. I wanted to make the plane fly at a constant speed and it flew at around 80mph in all (level, up, down) directions.

Have all the parts to build another one some day.

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Old 07-18-2008, 06:38 AM
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My 8.2 pound (dry) Model Tech Joss Stik w/ mid wing mod, flew straight up and outa sight with a cowled/inverted ST S90K/Magic Muffler using one of the older (not blunt edged) Zinger 14~8s. Ran it on 0% to 5% fuel. I wanted to make the plane fly at a constant speed and it flew at around 80mph in all (level, up, down) directions.

Have all the parts to build another one some day.

Terry in LP
Is the Magic Muffler similar to the Macs muffler? Is there a significant power increase compared to the stock muffler?
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cool.....I just bought it this morning

the engine flyies on an epsilon 90

tomorrow...flight test

thanks a lot

ill keep you informed!!
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xcead,

The Magic Muffler is more like an earlier version of a Nelson or Jett muffler. It has less volume though like a Weston. Still gives a boost. IIRC my S90K was turning 9000+ even with an air filter.

Have a good flight on the new plane.

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Default RE: ST 90-APC 14 x 8 someone?

I have an epsilon with an ST90 and prefer a 14X6 prop MA or APC.

I have flown with a 13X6 as well and liked it, its a bit faster.

This combo has good power for pattern.
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yes, i've tried 13x6 for break in

then 13x8..but it was a bit fast, and at low RPM, the prop doesnt tracks well

also tried 13x10 of a friend, but was tooo much

I hope, 14x8 could be the one, tracking at low RPM, and smaller enough for the engine to handle
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I think it will be a little big and the transition will suffer a bit, but theres no harm in trying.

The 14X6 is good middle ground for torque and speed.
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Default RE: ST 90-APC 14 x 8 someone?

I had a pumped ST G90 on a long pipe and it loved the 14x8.
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I flew tested the prop yesterday

the plane flew slower...i love it!

vertical dive was very slow!!! perfect!

vertical pull....was a bit better than the 13x8, but didnt reach too many RPM as expected, not unlimitted...but enough for the sequence im flying


and for gringo flyer, yes the transition was "heavy", but few more flights will tell the truth
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I'm not trying to harp on the other prop but with a ST 90 with 5% dynamix and 14X6 MA prop I have unlimited vertical on my epsilon.
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An MA prop on a pattern ship? Ooh , would be a bit loud wouldn't it?
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An MA prop on a pattern ship? Ooh , would be a bit loud wouldn't it?
Especially with my Jett muffler

The pattern contest he would be flying with the Epsilon here in Argentina I dont think will have a noise limit. Our local contest wont.

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