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Old 08-16-2008, 09:11 AM
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New CPLR Plane
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Old 08-16-2008, 09:26 AM
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Looks like his design might evolve into a biplane, yet<G>!

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very different looking, but I like that. Looks to have anheadral stabs
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:56 AM
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Now THAT is taking a canalizer to a whole new level

That is pretty neat. Integrated looking too, not like it's added after the fact. Blended in, and I noticed it still has a raised fin in the center.

Impressive to say the least!

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Old 08-16-2008, 01:04 PM
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Model looks very good.

Its official now.
Roger and the crew at Oxai bring on yet another World Champion. A truly world class stable of pilots.

Wolfgang Matt 75, 79 and TEN other top 3 appearances.
Naruke 95, 97, with Second Place result in 99
CPLR 99, 01, 03, 05, Two other top 3 placing.
Quique Somenzini 2007, Three other top 3 finishes

that is an impressive list for sure.

This combined with innovative designs from other top finishers as Silvestri, and Suzuki. They are setting the gold standard for all others to measure against.

Oxai again is taking it to another level of experience and Success.

Well done. Congratulations to CPLR and Oxai on their new partnership of design.

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Old 08-16-2008, 01:27 PM
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Not gone electric then?

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Old 08-16-2008, 01:37 PM
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Great a larger tableizer......we were having a hard time fitting enough lunch for everyone on the "normal" sized one

This new family sized tableizer will do the trick nicely! The best part is its also integrated so it can take far more food load than the previous one!

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That photo finally explains it all for me, thanks so much for putting it up!
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Chad,

I think the new one can hold a large Pizza box, or for sure some of Shulmans' Mc Donalds.

Looks like a second one piece wing up there....should very strong and rigid.

I guess its really close to being a bipe.

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The goal of Christohe with his T canalizer is to have the advantage of a bipe without the inconvenient. I f he enlarged the T, he must have a good reason for sure.
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Just need to pull a bit of power from the LiPo Rx pack to cool the new Tabelizer.

I'm a bit surprised at the significant sweep in the wings. Very nice lines.


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Old 08-16-2008, 05:23 PM
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ORIGINAL: macleote

The goal of Christohe with his T canalizer is to have the advantage of a bipe without the inconvenient. I f he enlarged the T, he must have a good reason for sure.

Macleote,

I agree with you. After flying the Biplanes for the last two years I understand their distinct advantages. I'm sold on the idea and the model I currently fly. It is bar none the best pattern model I have ever flown. It has distinct advantages in knife edge ability, snaps, and rolling elements both inline and integrated roll elements. I even feel it has huge ability over many designs in windy conditions. Not all Bipes have this advantage or ability.

The way the Canalizer attaches to the Axiome looks to be a very easy and compact method.

The way Oxai models currently assemble the Bipes is very fast and clean. The pin together "snap" together methods are extremely fast and secure. I don't feel it takes much more fuss than a monoplane. You still would need to take the T off the Axiome to avoid damage while transporting the model...I would think. Its fairly large.

I am also pleased to see this model is a one piece wing. I know the USA guys prefer the plug in wings, however after flying the one piece wing planes in the last couple years I honestly believe they fly better. They are stiffer, more rigid and built lighter. If designed correctly and built accurately, which the Oxai models are well more accurate than anything I have seen...there is no need for incidence changes on the main wings, and the stabs are still adjustable to trim to your liking.


Cool airplane I like the color scheme also.


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Old 08-17-2008, 03:45 PM
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Niall, I'll take two! Dave, clear your work bench!
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And to think that people thought the Pentathlon was a bit odd and the Voodoo Express was Extreme...

I too am surprised with the sweep in the wing trailing edges, completely opposite of what everyone has been doing as of late.

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[quoteI agree with you. After flying the Biplanes for the last two years I understand their distinct advantages. I'm sold on the idea and the model I currently fly. It is bar none the best pattern model I have ever flown. It has distinct advantages in knife edge ability, snaps, and rolling elements both inline and integrated roll elements. I even feel it has huge ability over many designs in windy conditions. Not all Bipes have this advantage or ability. ][/quote]

Hi Troy I wonder if you could elaborate on the design requrements for a high performance biplane. It seems to me that the variables are side area distribution, wing area/stagger/dihedral/anhedral/decalage/sweep/foil thickness and stab height. Also the opportunity for effective side force generators using the interplane struts.
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ORIGINAL: avrod

[quoteI agree with you. After flying the Biplanes for the last two years I understand their distinct advantages. I'm sold on the idea and the model I currently fly. It is bar none the best pattern model I have ever flown. It has distinct advantages in knife edge ability, snaps, and rolling elements both inline and integrated roll elements. I even feel it has huge ability over many designs in windy conditions. Not all Bipes have this advantage or ability. ]
Hi Troy I wonder if you could elaborate on the design requrements for a high performance biplane. It seems to me that the variables are side area distribution, wing area/stagger/dihedral/anhedral/decalage/sweep/foil thickness and stab height. Also the opportunity for effective side force generators using the interplane struts.
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As QQ has commented in interview of the AMA magazine, one major advantage and requirement of the bipe is the aspect ratio ie the short wing which provides the centre of lift and pressure closer to the root eliminating wing rocking effects at various speeds.
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Yes I see what you mean. The biplanes are 1710 to 1760mm span which is around 100mm less than the monoplanes. Presumably this also reduces the spanwise inertia.
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The vertical stab/rudder is huge!!, up or down
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will exist a CAMODEL version of this one? that would be nice!
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Probably $2000 less and you could have it this year, jejeje
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yes!, 2.000$ less, no waiting list, same quality...
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Business, never forget that, nobody knows the behind the door stuff, and at the contrary on quality, I do not have any complaints with them, and the paint quality in my Osmose DLX(painted) is far superior than Oxai china, Oxai Japan is a different story and price.

Camodel released the Osmose Evolution I think two months ago and is in CPLR.com.fr, I'm very curious too.......
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The evolution in F3A planes is fun to watch, with bipes/T-canalizer/hybrid(!), anhedral stab, swept wings, split rudders, counter-rotating props and side-force fins, but if history is going to repeat itself as usual then it should be right about now that someone jumps off the gizmo wagon and decides that enough is enough, closes his Oxai account, carves his own plane and makes headlines by winning with his revolutionary one-wing design that has just two ailerons and goodness gracious - only 5 servos. Oh Cristophe, what happened to the young man who became world champion with wings covered in brown paper?
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