Spektrum vs. Futaba?
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
ORIGINAL: Mikecam
The Futaba Service Bulletin recently issued by Futaba on possible lack of unique binding code in some 2.4 GHZ system models 6EX, 7C, and TM-7 was updated on Jan 30, 2008. Further info at:
Futaba Service Center 217 398-0007
Love how you pull up a Futaba issue from going on 5 years ago.
The heat issue was from users letting their Rx get to 120f. Let your under canopy electronics bake and stuff happens. It was corrected though. The heat thing was surpassed by the testing of the dms lock in 2 channel stuff that we still here about today. Don't forget that Futaba even with those problems are still using the original fasst protocol. Spektrum is now on it's, what 3rd protocol or is it the 4th.
That old adage, ''if it ain't broke why fix it'' comes to mind.
The Futaba Service Bulletin recently issued by Futaba on possible lack of unique binding code in some 2.4 GHZ system models 6EX, 7C, and TM-7 was updated on Jan 30, 2008. Further info at:
Futaba Service Center 217 398-0007
Love how you pull up a Futaba issue from going on 5 years ago.
The heat issue was from users letting their Rx get to 120f. Let your under canopy electronics bake and stuff happens. It was corrected though. The heat thing was surpassed by the testing of the dms lock in 2 channel stuff that we still here about today. Don't forget that Futaba even with those problems are still using the original fasst protocol. Spektrum is now on it's, what 3rd protocol or is it the 4th.
That old adage, ''if it ain't broke why fix it'' comes to mind.
I guess everything they produce recently works flawlessly. . . Hmmm?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky_ZPx5KFZg
spektrum is on its third protocol?
Futaba. . . am, fm, pcm, fasst, fhss. Fasstest. . .? How many is that?
Go to the futaba website and click on the technology button. . How many protocols
appear. Looks like . . . Three?
http://www.futaba-rc.com/index.html
Have you seen futaba's compatibility chart. . Not all rxs work with all transmitters. .
http://www.futaba-rc.com/receivers/air.html
Unlike spektrum. . Any dsmx tx will work with any dsmx or dsm2 rx. . .
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
ORIGINAL: blhollo2
Give it a rest...long live futaba lol
Give it a rest...long live futaba lol
I use it on my Gaui x5 - totally flawless. .
I just cant resist getting involved in a totally pointless discussion. . . Its a two hour flight to Tucson and american airlines dont have in seat video screens
Damn. . Qantas must be a bad airline as each and every passenger has their own inbuilt video screen and free on demand movies. . .
How dare they improve technology . . . .
All tongue in cheek guys. . No offense intended. . .
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
futaba crashes too??????? maybe in a trillion years from now but frankly if you read all the various posts in here the vast majority center around issues with spectrum! and when you read the want ads most of the equipment for sale is spectrum.yeah I know I am biased but at least I never fret over my equipment and its reliability.
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and when futaba makes a mistake IMO they own up quickly and seem far more transparent than spectrum ever did .okay thats enough posts from me bye!
and when futaba makes a mistake IMO they own up quickly and seem far more transparent than spectrum ever did .okay thats enough posts from me bye!
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
you don't need a sense of humour to realise that flying spektrum is like playing russian roulette with a loaded pistol.
not thanks, I'll take a Turnigy before that brand
PS: has anyone noticed how the *pectrum clan always try and butter each other up with false praises like "oh you're so intelligent, informed blah blah blah"..... yet they chose *plectrum.
They just keep strumming along to the voices in their heads
PS: has anyone noticed how the *pectrum clan always try and butter each other up with false praises like "oh you're so intelligent, informed blah blah blah"..... yet they chose *plectrum.
They just keep strumming along to the voices in their heads
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ORIGINAL: TimBle
you don't need a sense of humour to realise that flying spektrum is like playing russian roulette with a loaded pistol.
you don't need a sense of humour to realise that flying spektrum is like playing russian roulette with a loaded pistol.
not thanks, I'll take a Turnigy before that brand
PS: has anyone noticed how the *pectrum clan always try and butter each other up with false praises like "oh you're so intelligent, informed blah blah blah"..... yet they chose *plectrum.
They just keep strumming along to the voices in their heads
PS: has anyone noticed how the *pectrum clan always try and butter each other up with false praises like "oh you're so intelligent, informed blah blah blah"..... yet they chose *plectrum.
They just keep strumming along to the voices in their heads
ya know's whats ... it don't matter a hole hel-0-lot what systems ya is usen ther Matie. Sooners or laters theys all becoms a
"Smok'n Hol ins' the Ground"
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
The old dx7 was a great radio. Even dsmx users want to buy those. The current problem lies in backwards compatability as per HH bullitins.You spektrum users,(I used to be), defend them till it happens to you. Dont say you were not warned.
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The old dx7 was a great radio. Even dsmx users want to buy those. The current problem lies in backwards compatability as per HH bullitins.You spektrum users,(I used to be), defend them till it happens to you. Dont say you were not warned.
The old dx7 was a great radio. Even dsmx users want to buy those. The current problem lies in backwards compatability as per HH bullitins.You spektrum users,(I used to be), defend them till it happens to you. Dont say you were not warned.
again it ain't the radio so much as when the R/C gods call that planes Number, when that happens it's "Garbage Bag" time.
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
You know, if any poster on here were at the 2011 Joe Nall, they would realize that there were "Smokin Holes" as a result of both Futaba and Spektrum/JR brands.
In fact, one of the days I was there, there was a Futaba guided warbird that mysteriously ended up in a pile behind vendor's row. There was also a Futaba induced jet that fireballed off the end of the main runway, while there were Spektrum splashes and crashes on the main, 3D, and float flying areas. It isn't perfect technoloy when both brands cannot function in a heavy 2.4 RF enviroment. It appears both have pros and con's. It would appear that on here, the Futaba bunch feels it's more important to tout their brand with put downs and brand stroking. Likely they are the same pilots who never crash due to pilot error.
As for me, I'm going flying..... Suposedly that is why we are all here?
In fact, one of the days I was there, there was a Futaba guided warbird that mysteriously ended up in a pile behind vendor's row. There was also a Futaba induced jet that fireballed off the end of the main runway, while there were Spektrum splashes and crashes on the main, 3D, and float flying areas. It isn't perfect technoloy when both brands cannot function in a heavy 2.4 RF enviroment. It appears both have pros and con's. It would appear that on here, the Futaba bunch feels it's more important to tout their brand with put downs and brand stroking. Likely they are the same pilots who never crash due to pilot error.
As for me, I'm going flying..... Suposedly that is why we are all here?
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
ORIGINAL: cloudancer03
futaba crashes too??????? maybe in a trillion years from now but frankly if you read all the various posts in here the vast majority center around issues with spectrum! and when you read the want ads most of the equipment for sale is spectrum.yeah I know I am biased but at least I never fret over my equipment and its reliability.
futaba crashes too??????? maybe in a trillion years from now but frankly if you read all the various posts in here the vast majority center around issues with spectrum! and when you read the want ads most of the equipment for sale is spectrum.yeah I know I am biased but at least I never fret over my equipment and its reliability.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=866518
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_92...tm.htm#9255720
This is a good one.. read post #8 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...m.htm#10522063
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You know, if any poster on here were at the 2011 Joe Nall, they would realize that there were "Smokin Holes" as a result of both Futaba and Spektrum/JR brands.
In fact, one of the days I was there, there was a Futaba guided warbird that mysteriously ended up in a pile behind vendor's row. There was also a Futaba induced jet that fireballed off the end of the main runway, while there were Spektrum splashes and crashes on the main, 3D, and float flying areas. It isn't perfect technoloy when both brands cannot function in a heavy 2.4 RF enviroment. It appears both have pros and con's. It would appear that on here, the Futaba bunch feels it's more important to tout their brand with put downs and brand stroking. Likely they are the same pilots who never crash due to pilot error.
As for me, I'm going flying..... Suposedly that is why we are all here?
You know, if any poster on here were at the 2011 Joe Nall, they would realize that there were "Smokin Holes" as a result of both Futaba and Spektrum/JR brands.
In fact, one of the days I was there, there was a Futaba guided warbird that mysteriously ended up in a pile behind vendor's row. There was also a Futaba induced jet that fireballed off the end of the main runway, while there were Spektrum splashes and crashes on the main, 3D, and float flying areas. It isn't perfect technoloy when both brands cannot function in a heavy 2.4 RF enviroment. It appears both have pros and con's. It would appear that on here, the Futaba bunch feels it's more important to tout their brand with put downs and brand stroking. Likely they are the same pilots who never crash due to pilot error.
As for me, I'm going flying..... Suposedly that is why we are all here?
Don't Tick Off the R/C gods ... They'll put your plane in a "Smok'n Hol"
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
The jet crash at Nall was the result of a mirrored cock pit that the Futaba people noticed was not a good idea and said so and in fact was not. David even admitted that if you search for it. Notice he talks about the mirrored cock pit and the fact he watched 2 other dsm2/x crashes.
Hey guys,
Yep, #2 now for me at the Nall. Here is what happened, I installed a new custom mirrored cockpit (receivers & powerbox royal underneath in stock location). I did range checks and flew with no issues. I flew late Wednesday and did a long slow roll, finished the roll and pulled up but the last input received was my aileron to stop the roll. It luckily went into an opening and scattered into the woods, no fire, unfortunately a total loss. Basically I was 2000' away (guess) looking up the tailpipe, through the motor, full fuel tanks and to top it off the mirror plexiglass cockpit floor over the RX's. I checked one of my 4,000mah lipo's that was still together and it read 8.05v under a load so battery wasn't an issue.
I saw one Spektrum lightning (classic) lockout and go in Thursday and this morning a Skymaster T-45/Hawk go into the woods and fireball (assuming it was DSMX cause of the pilot/owner but not sure).
There were many more lockouts and losses with prop planes that were quite scary.
My Tuono, Turbinator & Ultra Flash flew awesome and I didn't let my crash spoil my trip.
Here's Davids jet crash from 2007 for those guys that want to hold on to good old 72mz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4CntziBe4
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=866518 Check post #5, he over loaded his bec.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_92...tm.htm#9255720 He only lost some channels, hey it's electronics, not the link.
I'm sure you guys had to look real hard. Go to any of the big 3 RC forums and check out the Radio sections and notice all the "I don't know what happened " DMS2 crashes.
I've said it before, you will see the DMSX crashes go way down and only then will it become apparent how suspect the DSM2 stuff really was.
To get serious for just a moment I truly hope that all the radio company's work toward getting a perfect link in our hobby. I fly at a few airshows during the year with the biggest attended by about 3000 people and the last thing I know any of us in this hobby wants to happen is someone getting hurt or worse. With the planes getting bigger and bigger the potential is there for something to happen especially when the plane has lost all link to it's pilot.
Okay serious stuff is now over so let the good Natured banter/entertainment continue.
Hey guys,
Yep, #2 now for me at the Nall. Here is what happened, I installed a new custom mirrored cockpit (receivers & powerbox royal underneath in stock location). I did range checks and flew with no issues. I flew late Wednesday and did a long slow roll, finished the roll and pulled up but the last input received was my aileron to stop the roll. It luckily went into an opening and scattered into the woods, no fire, unfortunately a total loss. Basically I was 2000' away (guess) looking up the tailpipe, through the motor, full fuel tanks and to top it off the mirror plexiglass cockpit floor over the RX's. I checked one of my 4,000mah lipo's that was still together and it read 8.05v under a load so battery wasn't an issue.
I saw one Spektrum lightning (classic) lockout and go in Thursday and this morning a Skymaster T-45/Hawk go into the woods and fireball (assuming it was DSMX cause of the pilot/owner but not sure).
There were many more lockouts and losses with prop planes that were quite scary.
My Tuono, Turbinator & Ultra Flash flew awesome and I didn't let my crash spoil my trip.
Here's Davids jet crash from 2007 for those guys that want to hold on to good old 72mz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4CntziBe4
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=866518 Check post #5, he over loaded his bec.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_92...tm.htm#9255720 He only lost some channels, hey it's electronics, not the link.
I'm sure you guys had to look real hard. Go to any of the big 3 RC forums and check out the Radio sections and notice all the "I don't know what happened " DMS2 crashes.
I've said it before, you will see the DMSX crashes go way down and only then will it become apparent how suspect the DSM2 stuff really was.
To get serious for just a moment I truly hope that all the radio company's work toward getting a perfect link in our hobby. I fly at a few airshows during the year with the biggest attended by about 3000 people and the last thing I know any of us in this hobby wants to happen is someone getting hurt or worse. With the planes getting bigger and bigger the potential is there for something to happen especially when the plane has lost all link to it's pilot.
Okay serious stuff is now over so let the good Natured banter/entertainment continue.
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
ORIGINAL: BGCombs
You know, if any poster on here were at the 2011 Joe Nall, they would realize that there were ''Smokin Holes'' as a result of both Futaba and Spektrum/JR brands.
In fact, one of the days I was there, there was a Futaba guided warbird that mysteriously ended up in a pile behind vendor's row. There was also a Futaba induced jet that fireballed off the end of the main runway, while there were Spektrum splashes and crashes on the main, 3D, and float flying areas. It isn't perfect technoloy when both brands cannot function in a heavy 2.4 RF enviroment. It appears both have pros and con's. It would appear that on here, the Futaba bunch feels it's more important to tout their brand with put downs and brand stroking. Likely they are the same pilots who never crash due to pilot error.
As for me, I'm going flying..... Suposedly that is why we are all here?
You know, if any poster on here were at the 2011 Joe Nall, they would realize that there were ''Smokin Holes'' as a result of both Futaba and Spektrum/JR brands.
In fact, one of the days I was there, there was a Futaba guided warbird that mysteriously ended up in a pile behind vendor's row. There was also a Futaba induced jet that fireballed off the end of the main runway, while there were Spektrum splashes and crashes on the main, 3D, and float flying areas. It isn't perfect technoloy when both brands cannot function in a heavy 2.4 RF enviroment. It appears both have pros and con's. It would appear that on here, the Futaba bunch feels it's more important to tout their brand with put downs and brand stroking. Likely they are the same pilots who never crash due to pilot error.
As for me, I'm going flying..... Suposedly that is why we are all here?
Steve
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
I gotta say.. I don't believe there is a single system out there that is 100% bullet proof. Each has their pros and cons with ther inherit risks. Heck..even the military had a drone land in Iran. Dont' think they flew Futaba, Spektrum, or JR.
With that said.. I fly Futaba, but hold nothing against the other brands out there. They all have their positive points, and it's up to the user to decide what they want to use for their application. I love my 8FGh, but do wish it had more metal in the construction than plastic. Bah.. I'm being picky now.
off my soapbox now
With that said.. I fly Futaba, but hold nothing against the other brands out there. They all have their positive points, and it's up to the user to decide what they want to use for their application. I love my 8FGh, but do wish it had more metal in the construction than plastic. Bah.. I'm being picky now.
off my soapbox now
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It sure is a lot easier to read and understand posts written in plain English and typed with a normal black font than.........
Dem thar postes dats rittun n imeetayshone Kin-TUK-eee slang, WITH GIANT RED LETTERS, a Comic Sans MS font, "overused "Quotation Marks"", lot's o' apos'rophe's 'nserted 'n in'appro'priat'e pla'ces, add gobs ov intensheenal and unintenshonel spelin' und grammer misteaks.
Dem thar postes dats rittun n imeetayshone Kin-TUK-eee slang, WITH GIANT RED LETTERS, a Comic Sans MS font, "overused "Quotation Marks"", lot's o' apos'rophe's 'nserted 'n in'appro'priat'e pla'ces, add gobs ov intensheenal and unintenshonel spelin' und grammer misteaks.
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It sure is a lot easier to read and understand posts written in plain English and typed with a normal black font than.........
Dem thar postes dats rittun n imeetayshone Kin-TUK-eee slang, WITH GIANT RED LETTERS, a Comic Sans MS font, "overused "Quotation Marks"", lot's o' apos'rophe's 'nserted 'n in'appro'priat'e pla'ces, add gobs ov intensheenal and unintenshonel spelin' und grammer misteaks.
It sure is a lot easier to read and understand posts written in plain English and typed with a normal black font than.........
Dem thar postes dats rittun n imeetayshone Kin-TUK-eee slang, WITH GIANT RED LETTERS, a Comic Sans MS font, "overused "Quotation Marks"", lot's o' apos'rophe's 'nserted 'n in'appro'priat'e pla'ces, add gobs ov intensheenal and unintenshonel spelin' und grammer misteaks.
Anyway Davie boy if u don't like the RED just Scroll on By. No budys makeing ya read it.
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
ORIGINAL: Mikecam
The jet crash at Nall was the result of a mirrored cock pit that the Futaba people noticed was not a good idea and said so and in fact was not. David even admitted that if you search for it. Notice he talks about the mirrored cock pit and the fact he watched 2 other dsm2/x crashes.
Hey guys,
Yep, #2 now for me at the Nall. Here is what happened, I installed a new custom mirrored cockpit (receivers & powerbox royal underneath in stock location). I did range checks and flew with no issues. I flew late Wednesday and did a long slow roll, finished the roll and pulled up but the last input received was my aileron to stop the roll. It luckily went into an opening and scattered into the woods, no fire, unfortunately a total loss. Basically I was 2000' away (guess) looking up the tailpipe, through the motor, full fuel tanks and to top it off the mirror plexiglass cockpit floor over the RX's. I checked one of my 4,000mah lipo's that was still together and it read 8.05v under a load so battery wasn't an issue.
I saw one Spektrum lightning (classic) lockout and go in Thursday and this morning a Skymaster T-45/Hawk go into the woods and fireball (assuming it was DSMX cause of the pilot/owner but not sure).
There were many more lockouts and losses with prop planes that were quite scary.
My Tuono, Turbinator & Ultra Flash flew awesome and I didn't let my crash spoil my trip.
Here's Davids jet crash from 2007 for those guys that want to hold on to good old 72mz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4CntziBe4
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=866518 Check post #5, he over loaded his bec.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_92...tm.htm#9255720 He only lost some channels, hey it's electronics, not the link.
I'm sure you guys had to look real hard. Go to any of the big 3 RC forums and check out the Radio sections and notice all the "I don't know what happened " DMS2 crashes.
I've said it before, you will see the DMSX crashes go way down and only then will it become apparent how suspect the DSM2 stuff really was.
To get serious for just a moment I truly hope that all the radio company's work toward getting a perfect link in our hobby. I fly at a few airshows during the year with the biggest attended by about 3000 people and the last thing I know any of us in this hobby wants to happen is someone getting hurt or worse. With the planes getting bigger and bigger the potential is there for something to happen especially when the plane has lost all link to it's pilot.
Okay serious stuff is now over so let the good Natured banter/entertainment continue.
The jet crash at Nall was the result of a mirrored cock pit that the Futaba people noticed was not a good idea and said so and in fact was not. David even admitted that if you search for it. Notice he talks about the mirrored cock pit and the fact he watched 2 other dsm2/x crashes.
Hey guys,
Yep, #2 now for me at the Nall. Here is what happened, I installed a new custom mirrored cockpit (receivers & powerbox royal underneath in stock location). I did range checks and flew with no issues. I flew late Wednesday and did a long slow roll, finished the roll and pulled up but the last input received was my aileron to stop the roll. It luckily went into an opening and scattered into the woods, no fire, unfortunately a total loss. Basically I was 2000' away (guess) looking up the tailpipe, through the motor, full fuel tanks and to top it off the mirror plexiglass cockpit floor over the RX's. I checked one of my 4,000mah lipo's that was still together and it read 8.05v under a load so battery wasn't an issue.
I saw one Spektrum lightning (classic) lockout and go in Thursday and this morning a Skymaster T-45/Hawk go into the woods and fireball (assuming it was DSMX cause of the pilot/owner but not sure).
There were many more lockouts and losses with prop planes that were quite scary.
My Tuono, Turbinator & Ultra Flash flew awesome and I didn't let my crash spoil my trip.
Here's Davids jet crash from 2007 for those guys that want to hold on to good old 72mz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4CntziBe4
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=866518 Check post #5, he over loaded his bec.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_92...tm.htm#9255720 He only lost some channels, hey it's electronics, not the link.
I'm sure you guys had to look real hard. Go to any of the big 3 RC forums and check out the Radio sections and notice all the "I don't know what happened " DMS2 crashes.
I've said it before, you will see the DMSX crashes go way down and only then will it become apparent how suspect the DSM2 stuff really was.
To get serious for just a moment I truly hope that all the radio company's work toward getting a perfect link in our hobby. I fly at a few airshows during the year with the biggest attended by about 3000 people and the last thing I know any of us in this hobby wants to happen is someone getting hurt or worse. With the planes getting bigger and bigger the potential is there for something to happen especially when the plane has lost all link to it's pilot.
Okay serious stuff is now over so let the good Natured banter/entertainment continue.
The reason I get so defensive about Spektrum is that I was also a victim of the Scare Mongering that goes on in these forums..
2 Years ago i bought a DX6i on the recommendation of a local hobby shop (yep.. ok..I know.. silly me..)
But then went away for 4 days on a work trip and took the radio with me, to learn how to use it.. I read and researched the DX6i and found LOTS of scary information about lockouts, brownouts etc etc.. all the usual..
It totally spooked me and that same weekend Bought a Futaba 6EX, thinking I had wasted my money on the Spektrum...
I installed the 6EX in an EDF and it has been perfect for 2 years..
But I am naturally curious so I wanted to test the Spektrum for myself, Hence a cheap Hobbyking Aircraft and the testing process began.
I flew it to the limits of vision.. TRYINGto make it fail.. I flew it until the propellor literally stopped mid air and puffed a few lipos in the process (deliberately)
The good Old Spektrum never failed, then along came an MSR, the Blade SR, and then a 450 Helicopter, all on the same original DX6i...
I range tested the DX6i alongside the Futaba 6EX and got identical results..
Long story short, the Spektrum radio.. EARNED my trust and confidence over months of personal testing.. It is my most used radio with over 5000 flights and I use it every day, even when away on work trips, as I pack it and an MCPX helicopter in my suitcase..
Here it is in Tucson Arizona http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyQ8Xh_fbj8
and in Los Angeles a week ago.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBmmC2dY8Zw
I also put a DX8 and a JR11X. through the same testing and they have performed flawlessly, no faults, no failures ever... so again, they earned my trust and respect..
I love the BNF ease and simplicity of DSM2/X also and a friend of mine bought Spektrum also and has operated them similarly to me over 2 years and again.. NEVER experienced a problem..
So my posts are all factual and I have no bias towards one brand or another, if it works great I will promote it, if it is crap then I will slam it..
Spektrum, Futaba and JR all get a big thumbs up from me.. .
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RE: Spektrum vs. Futaba?
ORIGINAL: Mikecam
Here's Davids jet crash from 2007 for those guys that want to hold on to good old 72mz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4CntziBe4
Here's Davids jet crash from 2007 for those guys that want to hold on to good old 72mz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4CntziBe4