Servo sizing question
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Servo sizing question
Hello everyone!
It's been a while since I've flown RC planes. Since last I flew I've gone to college and gotten my BS in Aerospace, and received some work experience in the field. It's made me question some previous decisions I used to make as a young pilot, and getting back into the game, I've realized a lot has changed regarding radios, receivers and servos. Back in the old days (yey, I get to say things like this now! =), I didn't have 2.4ghz radios or digital servos.
But, cutting to the chase - I used to use standard or high-torque servos on all my planes, but I'm wondering now - if I wanted to build a slow, stable plane for aerial photography and as a flying test bed for my experiments, could I in theory use gimpy microservos on the control surfaces? I don't really need quick response (except maybe during landings in gusty wind, yikes), all I need is a slow steady response to pitch, yaw, and roll. This means I can use a short arm on the microservo, a large arm on the control surface. My main concern, is that the aero loads (gusts/turbulence trying to deflect control surfaces) might strip the servos, or the servos might overheat trying to apply the input I gave them, against aero loads that are greater than their torque rating (assuming the gears don't strip first).
Anyone ever tried this?
Best regards,
Misha
PS the reason I want to use the smallest servos that can do the job, is that I want to leave the maximum amount of available weight for payload. Yeah, I know RC planes have ridiculous power-to-weight ratios compared to actual planes, but if I use four microservos instead of four standard servos, I can squeeze in a bigger battery (for instance) with all other things being equal.
It's been a while since I've flown RC planes. Since last I flew I've gone to college and gotten my BS in Aerospace, and received some work experience in the field. It's made me question some previous decisions I used to make as a young pilot, and getting back into the game, I've realized a lot has changed regarding radios, receivers and servos. Back in the old days (yey, I get to say things like this now! =), I didn't have 2.4ghz radios or digital servos.
But, cutting to the chase - I used to use standard or high-torque servos on all my planes, but I'm wondering now - if I wanted to build a slow, stable plane for aerial photography and as a flying test bed for my experiments, could I in theory use gimpy microservos on the control surfaces? I don't really need quick response (except maybe during landings in gusty wind, yikes), all I need is a slow steady response to pitch, yaw, and roll. This means I can use a short arm on the microservo, a large arm on the control surface. My main concern, is that the aero loads (gusts/turbulence trying to deflect control surfaces) might strip the servos, or the servos might overheat trying to apply the input I gave them, against aero loads that are greater than their torque rating (assuming the gears don't strip first).
Anyone ever tried this?
Best regards,
Misha
PS the reason I want to use the smallest servos that can do the job, is that I want to leave the maximum amount of available weight for payload. Yeah, I know RC planes have ridiculous power-to-weight ratios compared to actual planes, but if I use four microservos instead of four standard servos, I can squeeze in a bigger battery (for instance) with all other things being equal.
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max takeoff weight: circa 8kg (eyeballed, didn't really calculate as I won't be lifting that much.... yet)
design takeoff eight: 2kg (preliminary)
target empty eight: circa 1-1.5kg, haven't weighed the materials yet though.
cruise speed: 10m/s
wingspan: 2.5m
chord: 0.3m
ailerons: 0.4m x 0.03m (x2)
elevator: 0.4mx 0.03m
rudder: 0.2m x 0.03m (x2)
I ordered 9g servos, and a colleague donated some standard servos. I'll most likely stick to the 9g servos though - at 10m/s there's just not going to be that much buffet/flutter to begin with, and since I'll be using small deflections on the control surfaces (big arm on the surface, small arm on the servo), 9g should be more than enough.
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Some guy's are starting to run the MKS HV69 (a little bigger then micro) in each elevators on 2 meter pattern plane, those can also run ailerons on 2m bipe......In a slow plane like you describe these would be an overkill....so you would have a great cushion to protect your photo equipment. If I was building a new 2m pattern plane....I would used those in the elevators and a pair of HV747 on the ailerons, with a full size on the rudder.....
Advancement in servo's (not just MKS) has really been coming out in the last decade.
PS: I'm not sponsor by anybody....
Advancement in servo's (not just MKS) has really been coming out in the last decade.
PS: I'm not sponsor by anybody....