WhoDaMan

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Hi Guy's
Anyone have any info on JR's new 9 channel radio. I hear it is suppose to be pretty sweet. I also hear that the 10X will go to full Synthesizer. Any comments from the pro's would be nice.

Thanks, Dave

Peter Khor

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9X ... check out JR subforum, US version is undergoing some firmware changes.

Synth module is the RF deck and requires manual selection ... when it reaches US market is anyone's guess...

WhoDaMan

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Hi Peter:
So your best guess on a price would be ________ ?
Also, what have you heard. is it going to be as nice puppy?

Dave R

Peter Khor

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I suppose pricing is anybody's guess, a good place for comparative pricing might be:

https://www.cyberheli.com/shop-produ...5&CategoryID=7

Bear in mind the combos are with Digital servos, and some with PCM RX's - which looks to compare with the 9C price-wise.

I'm also waiting for the radios to eventually arrive and see how they are ...

WhoDaMan

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Thank you for all the info peter. I did read the forum you suggested.

BR,,Dave

mr_matt

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Why did they go down to 9 channels? Cause of the limitations of the 2 channels in the 10X?

Peter Khor

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My guess - product differenciation.

fwiw, the JR/Graupner version of the 9X radio, MX-22 allows you to select:

PPM18 - 9 channels
PCM - 10 channels
PPM24 - 12 channels

Also the MX-22 has all switches assignable.

Peter Khor

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Got me thinking ... just my 2 cents ... imo it's taken wayyyyy too long for JR/Horizon to bring out the 9X to the US (even with all the US-specific firmware updates; I doubt they would want to even bother going back to the logic board to do physical changes) [] methinks they are still trying to figure out how to introduce the 9X without "discontinuing" the 8103 - ie, there's some intra-brand product conflict/competition. Hope the marketing data they're getting is that there IS a market for the 9X ... bring it on!

WhoDaMan

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I agree Peter

The thing is,,, regardless its something new to play with, and as men ( with little boy's hearts ) we need new toy's. I just like the data screen and the price is not bad,,,, and most of all. Its a JR

Dave R

dsnyder

Peter, the 9 channel is coming. It is in development by JR. We don't have word on when that will be available, but should be spring to early summer. The changes that are being made take much re-programming of the system which requires development time. It has nothing to do with the 8103. We have no plans of discontinuing the 8103 at this time. The wait will be worth it!!!!!

doctor jason

the New JR PCM 9 is a Fantastic piece of radio gear, however the english written manual lets it down.[until Horizon hobbys write one] the set is much closer to the JR 10 series than the 3810.But a good manual would not go amiss to get the best out of the TX

WhoDaMan

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Hi Danny:
I need to ask , why if the radio is out in other country's and is doing well. Why the re-programming it ? Will it then after being released here have a test bed to go threw by the people that purchase them. Or time will be taken to give the radio's out to the JR team before the public. Just a question on how it will be done.

Dave

dsnyder

We are having many features added to the system to make it more powerful and effective. Overall, the 9X for aircraft contained many improvements over the 8103, but for helis and gliders the system was virtually unchanged. We felt it lacked the programming necessary to be an outstanding system for the US. The new system will be tested by us here at Horizon. Not sure if any team members will have access to the systems as well. Time will tell. Stay tuned for further developments!

tadawson

Any insights as to a pending release of the synthesizer module for 72MHz US?

- Tim

dsnyder

I don't have any insight there. As I understand those are in development. No word on when those may be available.

Mac_Man_UK

Gents,

We accept the criticism over the manual as it is. BUT it was written in a rush in order to ship out the 9X's without too much of a delay. It shows how dependant the world ( English Speaking ) is on those very nice guys at Horizon.

Unfortunately, the UK company is a small operation and as such we couldnt really fund a translation from the Japanese manual, and as we are a small company, no-one really has the time to rewrite it. Everyone wears 2 hats here......

If only I could fly, I might have a bash at writing it...............................

However, as MOST people have found out, it is such a fantastic set that it almost needs no manual in order to drive it. A little bit of time playing with it on the bench and within a few days, you will know as much as we do !!!!


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WhoDaMan

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Hi Mac:
Then what you have seen , you like? How may I ask will it be different than the Futaba, Don't get me wrong I prefer JR.

Dave R

Mac_Man_UK

Ermmmm..... no good asking me about Futaba gear..... I wouldnt recognise one if it fell on my foot.... All I ever see is JR stuff....

( I work for the Uk Importers of JR ).....


From my pov, its nicely balanced, very user friendly and sturdy ! But as I said, I am not a flier so I cannot really comment on its functionality, BUT from what I have heard and read from serious users, its a bloody good set albeit let down by a very rushed English manual.......

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WhoDaMan

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Hi Mac:
Well you know how kids are. We musty have it now. I think JR will do the right thing. You do not become the finist radio in the world by messing around ( I can see everyone going to get there boots ) [sm=lol.gif]

Dave

Peter Khor

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I suppose this is the newly revised/expanded manual you guys did? :

http://www.flywithfly.com/prodimages/manuals/PCM9X%20Manual(temporaly).pdf

Very good job imo and just about covers everything I'd want to know on the 9X! (strange though, tripple rates only in HE mode?)

Peter Khor

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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_14...tm.htm#1432675

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Mac_Man_UK

I am afraid that the manual available from that website is the original we did some time ago. Nothing has been changed due to lack of human resources. Some people accept it, some dont and want more and more detailed info on the 9X. When you consider that it was effectively written within a week from scratch its not too bad.

But it does shine a good light on the work done by Dannys lot when they write a manual for the kit they sell. If only we had the same manpower ! LOL

I for one, will be extremely interested in looking at the US version of this set when it comes out. Obviously it will not be known as the 9X due to the confusion that would arise.

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dsnyder

What is the question there Peter? Yes, the 9X as it stands lacks any improvements for sailplanes and helis over the 8103, which is some of the reasons for the re-programming for the US version.

Mac_Man_UK

Hehehehehe as he quickly tiptoes in and responds to a query on the link that Peter pointed out..... PC interface wont be needed as the DataXchange program ( due to be released soon !!! ) will take care of that. CE version will be following shortly.....

Peter Khor

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hmm ... I have an earlier manual in PDF format (scanned) that had hardly 1/6 of the info that this manual provided (also from Macgregor), only had a dozen pages or so - that was the 'manual' that I assumed everyone was refering to. As I said before, the 'new' manual looks good to me!

A datasafe of sorts for the 9X would be most welcomed, especially one that would allow editing and printing out model setups - hopefully it'll work with the US 9X when it's available, and priced waaaaaayyyy below the DataSafePlus for the 10X ($300 MAP from Horizon to backup, print and edit 10X data)