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Old 08-13-2005, 02:16 PM
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Default Better than 14 MZ : Futaba FX40 !!

It's even more expensive than the 14MZ.

Better suited for european market ?
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Old 08-14-2005, 09:01 PM
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Why is it better than the 14MZ ?
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default RE: Better than 14 MZ : Futaba FX40 !!

i cant read german but if you can here it is.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:11 PM
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Moderator, the previous post should be edited if not deleted, IMHO.
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Default RE: Better than 14 MZ : Futaba FX40 !!


Guys

First off keep it clean.

2nd this radio is a 14mz but in what we would call a Pizza Box. It is more catered to Helicopter Pilots then FixedWing Pilots.

It's been out now for about 5 months if I recall.

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Old 08-15-2005, 05:54 AM
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T14MZ is EUR 1 689.00.

FX40 is EUR 1 989.00.

I seriously doubt it is merely a case design issue. The second has a bigger battery, 4400 mAh [X(] vs. 2200 mAh for the 14MZ.
The second has a FULL magnesium case (not bits only), hence the light weight, less cheap plastic stuff (only plastic sides).
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:08 AM
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Probably (I'm guessing here) the software is more or less the same but the hardware different.
The design is definitly aimed at Multiplex and Graupner users.
The 14MZ has tough competitiors here in Europe, most notably Multiplex 4000 and Graupner/JR MC-24.
They have been around for a number of years but have a strong following with a solid reputation for top notch quality.
Futaba has to come up with something rather exceptional to make people switch brands.

The reason for the high capacity batteries probably is to cater for the soaring pilots in Germany/France/Austria etcetera where very long flight times are common.

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Old 08-15-2005, 06:52 AM
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Default RE: Better than 14 MZ : Futaba FX40 !!

Jeez.

Futaba and JR have been building radios in that style for the European market for ages; regardless of "what for" (sailplanes, etc.). Europeans prefer a tray style radio, for whatever reasons.

The European style radios also offer some options not generally seen in the US; such as little toggle switches in the end of the sticks, etc. Those are neat; I wish the US importers would make them available here.

So the FULL magnesium case is a big deal? Perhaps to you. JR/Horizon tried that marketing gimmick with the 10X. Guess what? The 9Z, which is a good ten years older, design-wise, is STILL a better radio. Its all about features, and what YOU want your radio to do.

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Old 08-15-2005, 02:41 PM
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Get a grip, guy.
Heard about Aldous Huxley ?
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:52 PM
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Yeah. I've read Orwell, too. His "predictions" didn't come true either.

What's your point???
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:18 PM
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ORIGINAL: Strykaas

T14MZ is EUR 1 689.00.

FX40 is EUR 1 989.00.

I seriously doubt it is merely a case design issue. The second has a bigger battery, 4400 mAh [X(] vs. 2200 mAh for the 14MZ.
The second has a FULL magnesium case (not bits only), hence the light weight, less cheap plastic stuff (only plastic sides).

that is sad have you ever touched a 14MZ?? i own one and a 10x i see no problems with either

i was just like you before i got one[:@] that was a mistake they are both GREAT radios you can go wrong with either
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Old 08-16-2005, 05:16 AM
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For me, I stick to my 10 channels MC-22, which is enough for me (I don't belong to that 0.0001% "top notch" modellers who really need it).



Yes, switches at the top of the sticks are very nice !!

And I clearly see that other manufacturers (JR) will go for 2048 steps based PCM.
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Old 08-16-2005, 07:00 AM
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I don't have to read between the lines; I realize that governments in general (particularly in Europe, but more and more here too) are slowly but surely increasing their grip on their citizenry; no doubt with help from guys like Gates.

Aside from the fact that this is not the place to discuss black helicopters or megalomaniac computer nerds, there is not a whole lot we can do about it anyway. Call it a head-in-the-sand attitude if you like. But I have been a cop for 27 years; I've SEEN the feds at work and know how they operate; and I know you cannot win against them. Just as you cannot successfully rebel against your government, and for the same reason; not enough rebels. Revolutions do happen, but the first requirement is enough dedicated revolutionaries.

At any rate, you can allow semi-paranoia to affect your enjoyment of the hobby if you want.

I refuse to.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:19 AM
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I'm not talking about revolution lol, just about a 'it is the customer who decides' attitude... No point in being a rebel, I'm well established and don't want to lose my job !!
Some can buy 14MZ if they want, but some could also send emails to futaba HQ to know what's going on there ?? I would be pleased to have an official answer from Futaba on that matter. According to Futaba, only human machine interface is Microsoft based. They claim the core is still Futaba's code. Strange as it may seem, they seem to be aware of Microsoft poor reliability.
Let alone computer nerds, I'm not one of them.
If MicroSoft was associated to low cost Tx, then I wouldn't bother that much. What annoys me is that thes 14MZ / FX40 radios are regarded as the most powerful today's radios. They're MS based, bad luck [&o].

Regarding FBI agents, I've seen a film, but can't recall its title. You can win against them, but you have to know you're able to !!

Hey, if you're a cop, you must have used these radar guns to clock your planes ? I would love to have one too, but they aren't cheap...
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:34 PM
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<<You can win against them...>>

In the short term. You may win the battle, but you'll lose the war. From Dillinger, all the way to those poor sods at Waco, the feds always "get their man"; eventually.

I haven't worked uniform (i.e., had ready access to a radar device) in a very long time. Even when I did, I didn't clock my models. I never was interested in outright speed.
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Old 08-16-2005, 03:58 PM
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Steve Campell wrote:
I realize that governments in general (particularly in Europe, but more and more here too) are slowly but surely increasing their grip on their citizenry; no doubt with help from guys like Gates.
Particularly in Europe!!?? Are you aware of the content of the Patriot act?

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All too aware, Red. But after Waco and Ruby Ridge, the feebs are still leery of trampling on us TOO much; for now, anyway. Those fiascoes sent aftershocks rippling through the system that have not fully died yet.

Actually, the Murrah Building bombing produced more stringent "attacks" on the Constitution. The Patriot Act just added a bit more.

The muslim problem has their full attention these days. Seeing as nothing short of total genocide will solve that one, who knows where it will all end up? The only real effect I've seen is the incredible hassle now involved when flying commercial anywhere. I deal with that by simply not getting on a commercial flight; if Steve can't drive there, Steve don't go.

Flame away folks; nomex is zipped up and the bunker hatch is battened.
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didn't know RCU had an off-topic discussion forum like RCG....should be fun



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Old 08-16-2005, 08:04 PM
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Oh, I'm sure a Topic Nazi will be along directly...
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Old 08-17-2005, 04:09 PM
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Wow. I never knew someone would be so paranoid about Microsoft software being in a computer radio... If I'm not mistaken, the college I go to has a whole lot of support from Microsoft, many people who live near me work for Microsoft, and I see nothing to be paranoid about... The only thing that would be bothersome is if I lived in a Home Owners association, but I don't, so... [sm=biggrin.gif] Microsoft is not that horrible of a company, the ideas I see put out here are nothing to scoff at. I know a few things to scoff at when it comes to Microsoft, but there's no point to it. I've got a feeling people forget a whole lot about the fact that the people working behind the scenes are human... And, I'm yet to have my rights violated by the Patriot Act, I'm more concerned about getting a traffic ticket and not be allowed into Canada on a vacation! (No traffic tickets BTW...[8D]) BTW, if I had over 2000 posts on an open to the public forum, I don't see why I'd be concerned about people finding out about my interests, where I've been, etc. I think you see what I mean. I guess you could say I don't read inbetween the lines that often... otherwise....[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
Any idea if the case for the FX40 can be had in the US? I'll post a question to Futaba, there's got to be some kind of "back door" I can go through to get one, "if" I could get one.[sm=lol.gif] Had enough RCU for the day, signing out!
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:45 AM
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Can we get back to talking about airplanes?
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:12 PM
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Can we get back to talking about airplanes?
mmhh ... think we are one the "RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros" subforum section...
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Those switches on the end of the sticks are cool, but the problem with them is I fly with my thumbs. That makes them useless to me. I never have really liked the pizza box radios anyway.
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Also. THe FX-40 is a 2048 system unlike the other 1024 futaba systems. i.e double the processing power. And yes, it is made for slope pilots but some UK pilots use it for all their aircraft including heli's.
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Here ya go Strykaas,
Radio Shack has radar guns (made by Bushnell - called the Speedster Speed Gun) for $75. Probably available elsewhere too. I've used one and it works good.
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