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Old 06-25-2010, 02:17 PM
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Oh yes and we will have lots of $20 Rx from Hobby Dung with no support instead of a good $42 Hitec Optima 6 channel with 2 yr warranty and Mayberry and the crew in CA at our beck and call everytime we screw up!
Old 06-25-2010, 02:29 PM
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]havehad more operator error than radio error..stick with what works for YOU!
Old 06-25-2010, 04:18 PM
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Default RE: Should I go to 2.4?

HiTec (and everyone else) did the same thing in 72Mhz, use Futaba and Jr code once it was reverse engineered.
I guess that makes HiTec 72Mhz equipment crummy copies.
I bet HiTec will soon have Spektrum and FASST compatible stuff too.
Old 06-25-2010, 04:58 PM
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Now that Spektrum's DSM technology has been reverse engineered I expect to see a lot of inexpensive Spektrum compatible equipment. Same thing happened with 72Mhz, otherwise there wouldn't be any Futaba and JR compatible radios out there.
I'd like you to mention of one PCM receiver that was succesfully reverse engineered. PPM was all over the place, but PCM was not. Since radio manufacturers are smarter than I am, I suspect that they took provisions to counteract stealing, I would.

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Old 06-25-2010, 05:17 PM
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Time will tell! But Idoubt it.
Old 06-26-2010, 12:35 AM
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Sorry, they cloned only as much of the code as they needed to compete. Pretty efficient I think.
Anyway, the FM market was, and is, full of Futaba and JR compatible radio gear. If it wasn't for them you would be still paying $100 for a 4ch RX for a foamie. No thanks.
Awaiting my HK DSM RX. Just my little bit to bring down a monopoly.
Old 06-26-2010, 09:07 AM
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....I'd like you to mention of one PCM receiver that was succesfully reverse engineered...
MKS is one "The R9000S is the best in class Synth receiver available today. With auto scanning, PCM/PPM auto-select, JR/Futaba auto-select, 9 channels and a high quality design."

Nuff said.
Old 06-26-2010, 09:42 AM
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...I'd like you to mention of one PCM receiver that was succesfully reverse engineered...
Should mention this as well "We have reverse engineered the Futaba PCM1024 protocol and present our analysis here"[link=http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/pcm.html]Sourceforge[/link]
Old 06-28-2010, 07:28 AM
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Default RE: Should I go to 2.4?

Hitec has copied Futaba but it appears they have gone down a cheaper road. Futaba changes frequency every 20 milliseconds, whereas AFHSS first selects the twnety least busy channels and then changes between them at an undisclosed rate.

Airtronics (SANWA) is similar.

2.4Ghz band also has another advantage, its takes less energy to broadcast at that frequenc, so tx battery life is improved (but then they go and throw lights music and camnera functiosn into the Tx and that uses up the energy ....sigh.

2.4 also makes it possible for telemetry features. the data bitrate is much higher  so there plenty of info hat can transmitted both ways.

I do nohowever like th price of Futaba 2.4Rx. Hitec looks like the best value for money offering out there.
Old 06-29-2010, 01:07 PM
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My new Hitec 2.4 Ghz Tx module and Rx's should be sitting at home this afternoon when I get there. Can't wait to try it out on my Wedell Williams gasser. That should wring it out for a good test.
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Default RE: Should I go to 2.4?

how much are the 7 or 8 chaannel receivers average price?
Old 06-29-2010, 07:32 PM
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I used Tower to get these prices so here ya go....

Futaba R617FS 7 CH. Rx $89.99 Hitec Optima 7 Rx $66.99
Futaba R6008HS 8 CH. Rx $139.98 Hitec Optima 9 Rx $99.99 (no 8 ch available)

And for the JR/Spektrum offerings I only went with the basic ones from the Horizon site...some of the 9 ch Rx systems can get pricey....
AR7000 DSM2 Rx $99.99
AR 9000 DSM2 Rx $169.99
Old 06-29-2010, 07:51 PM
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Tom's RC store online Optima 7=$57.28, 6=$42.41, 9=$82.17

Good bye Spektrum....LOL

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Tom's RC store online Optima 7=$57.28, 6=$42.41, 9=$82.17

$2.99 shipping

Good bye Spektrum....LOL

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Old 06-29-2010, 08:50 PM
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Default RE: Should I go to 2.4?

that is not bad at all so one day it will not cost me as much 2 change over once i get me a radio thanks guys
Old 07-08-2010, 10:32 AM
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Default RE: Should I go to 2.4?

I'm flying everything from indoor foamys to 50cc gassers with a 9cap and a 9303. Both with 2.4 conversion modules from Assan. I have approx 12 Assan rcvrs of 4 to 7 channel. These cost $20 to $25 each. I have one "high end" 8 channel in a 50cc warbird; because Assan says it has more range. This one was $50. You can buy a module with two rcvrs for $90. Never had a problem with any of this equip. I have a Futaba 7 fasst that I would sell cheap.
Old 07-13-2010, 09:58 PM
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Default RE: Should I go to 2.4?

Stick with Futaba,



The Futaba 2.4GHz FASST radio system or module/receiver set,is a fully tested, well-engineered, totally reliable product – one that's absolutely ready to give demanding R/C hobbyists the performance they expect.Their hands-on experience with 2.4GHz technology stretches back 15 years, long before anyone considered its value in hobby applications. That's when engineers in Futaba's industrial R/C division – designers of radio-control tools for construction, civil engineering, and similar uses – began employing and, perfecting their own 2.4GHz equipment. Those same engineers were brought in to share their knowledge as soon as we were comfortable that 2.4GHz technology had perfected for the unique demands of R/C hobby applications. No other radio manufacturer had such an instant supply of expertise. Oh! the recievers overheating when exposed to extreme heat, was a misshap and, a problem solved..Futaba is king of the hill...ask anyone who participated in the 2010 Joe Nall and, ask "which guidance system mfg had the most problems" Hint! It was not Futaba..


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