RC Rock Crawlers The official rock crawling forum right here on RCU. Rock Crawler Trucks Rule!

ANYTHING Entry Level?

Reply
Old 07-27-2011, 03:45 PM
  #1
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default ANYTHING Entry Level?

Are there any good entry lever rock crawlers? Kind of like the TT01, in price and quality >_<
Not with mattery/charger or anything but, RTR. Even a kit that includes everything else would be nice.
Or maybe a car that would be cheaper just to convert.
I'm weary of used rc - but could be willing, depending on age/quality.

Suggestions?
narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 06:57 PM
  #2
SyCo_VeNoM
 
SyCo_VeNoM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 12,770
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

only ones I can think of that are on the low end are the redcats, and exceeds.

Next would probably be an HPI wheelyking stretched out, but that might actually cost more than just buying an axial kit.
Just looked HPI's Crawler king is like $213 RTR

Venom Creeper kits are $115 http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...wler-Kit-Green
Not sure how good they are though
SyCo_VeNoM is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 08:20 PM
  #3
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

Prefer something from a known brand, unlike NitroRCX/Redcat. I've looked at the Venom quite a bit, but the kit part worries me. While still using parts that have good value, or even the absolute minimum from knock-off parts, what would be the minimum to finish the build?
I'm looking do do a scale Land Rover Series 3... Maybe doing it on a Losi Micro Crawler. I have looked for some model kits or bodies for it, but haven't found any.

I have some extra parts.. a futuba radio, but no servo or reciever. Would it be better just to get a servo/reciever and brushed motor/esc + a kit?
I haven't built a kit before, how hard would one like this be?

narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 04:20 AM
  #4
The Mad Modder
 
The Mad Modder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: eastern, IL
Posts: 3,951
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

The venom is probably the cheapest I'd go with while still being decent quality. For my main crawler, I built a wheely king into one. I used the prebuilt version, though(no electronics except a motor), so I was able to build a good crawler at a reasonable price. For some reason hpi stopped making the pr-built version so now you'd have to get a full RTR and pay for the crummy RTR electronics.[:'(] If you can find an inexpensive wheely king in decent shape, they do make good crawlers.
The Mad Modder is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 07:29 AM
  #5
gonggongboy
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: olathe, KS
Posts: 552
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

Are you wanting a scaler or a comp crawler?
gonggongboy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 07:39 AM
  #6
t9dragon
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PDX, OR
Posts: 7,866
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

If you are looking at a good scaler then take a look at the Axial SCX10 trucks..... You will pay a little more up front for one but you will be better off in the long run and there is alot of aftermarket support for them.

Here's a pic of mine with the stock body and the Jeep Cherokee body



t9dragon is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 11:22 AM
  #7
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?


Quote:
ORIGINAL: gonggongboy

Are you wanting a scaler or a comp crawler?
A scaler.

Considering that Venom also has a Safari Crawler which is based on the Series 3, and having the electronics already, I think I'll buy the venom kit.
Not immediatly, but soon. If anyone has anything they would like to trade for a TA03 chassis or somewhat broken Emaxx, or a Losi micro Rally, or all of the above, I'd be happy to trade >_<


narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 12:25 PM
  #8
SyCo_VeNoM
 
SyCo_VeNoM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 12,770
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

Quote:
ORIGINAL: t9dragon

If you are looking at a good scaler then take a look at the Axial SCX10 trucks..... You will pay a little more up front for one but you will be better off in the long run and there is alot of aftermarket support for them.

Here's a pic of mine with the stock body and the Jeep Cherokee body

me needs that jeep body...
is it pro-line?
SyCo_VeNoM is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 03:10 PM
  #9
t9dragon
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PDX, OR
Posts: 7,866
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?


Quote:
ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM

me needs that jeep body...
is it pro-line?
[/quote]

Yes that is the Proline Cherokee with the interior and floorplan....
t9dragon is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 03:13 PM
  #10
t9dragon
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PDX, OR
Posts: 7,866
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?


Quote:
ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM

me needs that jeep body...
is it pro-line?

Yes that is the Proline Cherokee with the interior and floorplan....
t9dragon is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2011, 10:24 AM
  #11
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

Upon looking, I have been able to find some CC01 kits for around 150...
I'm looking to build somthing close to this -
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9jsjKgn2Mk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Something cheaper or RTR would be preferred... Any suggestions?
narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 12:27 PM
  #12
The Mad Modder
 
The Mad Modder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: eastern, IL
Posts: 3,951
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

Looks good. The cc01 is a good base for building scale trucks. For smaller, more scale tires you could use 1.55 size ones. RC4wd makes a good variety of 1.55 wheels and tires.
The Mad Modder is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 01:12 PM
  #13
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

After thinking... AGAIN... I'm hoping to try and to a Losi Micro Rock Crawler scaler. I've found two possible model kits I could use -
http://www.revell.com/model-kits/cars/85-4292.html
http://www.revell.com/germany/trucks/80-7401.html
But I would Prefer a Land Rover Defender, Suzuki Samurai, or Toyota Land cruser body..

I'm glad I haven't bought anything yet 8D
narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 04:23 PM
  #14
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

OH GOD CHANGING MY MIND AGAIN

Anyway.
I have all the electronics already I would need for a kit... so thats not so much an issue now.
If I were to get a Micro Crawler, Diecast Defender, and LiPo kit, It would still cost around $150 and still only have a 20min runtime.
With a kit, I could keep my 45Min battery, as well as having a 1/10 car.
The CC01 seems fairly close.
Opinions on the CC01 or Venom, or other similar kits?
Note that I somewhat prefer Tamiyas due to the fact I am close to the Tamiya USA track + quality and part support >_<

narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 04:56 PM
  #15
SyCo_VeNoM
 
SyCo_VeNoM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 12,770
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

Quote:
ORIGINAL: TheDriftingNarwhal

OH GOD CHANGING MY MIND AGAIN

Anyway.
I have all the electronics already I would need for a kit... so thats not so much an issue now.
If I were to get a Micro Crawler, Diecast Defender, and LiPo kit, It would still cost around $150 and still only have a 20min runtime.
With a kit, I could keep my 45Min battery, as well as having a 1/10 car.
The CC01 seems fairly close.
Opinions on the CC01 or Venom, or other similar kits?
Note that I somewhat prefer Tamiyas due to the fact I am close to the Tamiya USA track + quality and part support >_<

go tamiya then
I got a couple tamiyas (not the CC01 it was a contender but I got the axial SCX10 instead) and never had any real issues with them.
I actually like tamiyas quality, and availability
I'll be honest I'd be scared to buy the venom mainly due to the poor experiences I've had with every product I've bought with their logo on it. I only mentioned it cause your price range.
SyCo_VeNoM is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 05:17 PM
  #16
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

I have to wonder though how will it run in the current state of the Tamiya USA Offroad track.
How will it run with a higher turn motor?
narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 05:36 PM
  #17
The Mad Modder
 
The Mad Modder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: eastern, IL
Posts: 3,951
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

What are you looking for out of it? Relatively high speed running or slower and more offroad capable? If you aren't looking to do rock crawling, the cc01 would probably be better. You could lift itand put larger tires on for heavier offroad/trail driving or lower it a bit and get a lexan body(only if it doesn't come with one. The unimog, landcruiser and bronco are lexan) for more rally oriented driving.
The Mad Modder is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 05:53 PM
  #18
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

Looking for something in between. Moderate speed, but still decent on a track.
narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 06:29 PM
  #19
SyCo_VeNoM
 
SyCo_VeNoM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 12,770
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

you probably don't want a crawler then
I'd say a buggy or a truggy would probably suit your needs more
SyCo_VeNoM is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 06:57 PM
  #20
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

I don't know, I don't like buggy or truggys >_< I don't want that much speed, just enough to get it around the little Tamiya USA offroad track a bit above normal crawler top speed.

A Concept-
I have a TT01 with stock everything. I've been thinking of upgrading the motor, so my idea was to take my extra electronics and the motor from the TT01(27T) to use in the CC01. Will the TT01, by default, accapt a brudheless motor? Or would it be better to buy a higher-turn brushed for the TT01.

Edit:
Doh'. It's not a roller >_<
I just need a Radio and servo + crystals.
Right.

Well I can just use my extra Futuba 8D

Hooray for RC ignorance!


I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Could someone help?

narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 07:16 PM
  #21
SyCo_VeNoM
 
SyCo_VeNoM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 12,770
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

no clue on BL with a stock TT01 I replaced my diffs gear set with a DF-02's metal diff gear set, put steel outdrives, and CVDs on it right out of the box with a BL motor.

and yes all the tamiya kits I've seen come with that teu104 bk, and a motor. I got a nice collection of unused ESC's sitting here courtesy of tamiya. I'd prefer a servo instead of that ESC (IMO it would be fine with a BEC)
SyCo_VeNoM is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 07:30 PM
  #22
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?


Quote:
ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM

no clue on BL with a stock TT01 I replaced my diffs gear set with a DF-02's metal diff gear set, put steel outdrives, and CVDs on it right out of the box with a BL motor.

and yes all the tamiya kits I've seen come with that teu104 bk, and a motor. I got a nice collection of unused ESC's sitting here courtesy of tamiya. I'd prefer a servo instead of that ESC (IMO it would be fine with a BEC)
I have no idea what you justsaid

My question is, when I buy the kit, I want to use my futuba radio I have lying around on it.

I don't have a reciever, servo, or crystals for it.

What do I need to do to make the kit move?



narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2011, 05:07 AM
  #23
SyCo_VeNoM
 
SyCo_VeNoM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 12,770
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

Quote:
ORIGINAL: TheDriftingNarwhal


Quote:
ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM

no clue on BL with a stock TT01 I replaced my diffs gear set with a DF-02's metal diff gear set, put steel outdrives, and CVDs on it right out of the box with a BL motor.

and yes all the tamiya kits I've seen come with that teu104 bk, and a motor. I got a nice collection of unused ESC's sitting here courtesy of tamiya. I'd prefer a servo instead of that ESC (IMO it would be fine with a BEC)
I have no idea what you justsaid

My question is, when I buy the kit, I want to use my futuba radio I have lying around on it.

I don't have a reciever, servo, or crystals for it.

What do I need to do to make the kit move?



futaba receiver with a crystal to match you radios, and a servo

my post was more based on your concept idea about the TT01
SyCo_VeNoM is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2011, 06:11 AM
  #24
The Mad Modder
 
The Mad Modder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: eastern, IL
Posts: 3,951
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?


Quote:
ORIGINAL: TheDriftingNarwhal

I don't know, I don't like buggy or truggys >_< I don't want that much speed, just enough to get it around the little Tamiya USA offroad track a bit above normal crawler top speed.

A Concept-
I have a TT01 with stock everything. I've been thinking of upgrading the motor, so my idea was to take my extra electronics and the motor from the TT01(27T) to use in the CC01. Will the TT01, by default, accapt a brudheless motor? Or would it be better to buy a higher-turn brushed for the TT01.

Edit:
Doh'. It's not a roller >_<
I just need a Radio and servo + crystals.
Right.

Well I can just use my extra Futuba 8D

Hooray for RC ignorance!


I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Could someone help?

Yeah, even stock the cc01 is quite a bit faster than a crawler.

Syco is correct, the kit comes with the esc and motor, so you only need a receiver w/crystal and a steering servo. If you get it, remember to smear a thin layer of grease around the lips where the rear axle case comes together(helps keep dirt out).
The Mad Modder is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2011, 09:26 AM
  #25
narwalrus
Thread Starter
 
narwalrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 833
Gallery
My Gallery
Models
My Models
Ratings
My Feedback
Default RE: ANYTHING Entry Level?

So the futuba radio Is a "Magnum Junior T2PHKA" and says 70 - 75.590... All I have is the actual controller part.
A bit of advice on if I need certain crystals, and If I need a certain reciever/servo?
Edit: Attached photo shows all my extra electronics I'd like to use the Futuba radio, but if it would be more effective to use my other setup, I would use that.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Wu60414.jpg
Views:	5
Size:	76.2 KB
ID:	1642870  
narwalrus is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:58 AM.