Canterbury J Boats
01-23-2019, 04:24 AM
#3
Several years ago I wanted to build some boats to half the current size J class boats (the J boats being 1/16 scale)... so their 1/32 size would have put them in the almost the same length as the Canterburys -- then life got in the way!
It would still be fun to sail them but I was also discouraged by how many popular smaller sailboat classes the AMYA recognizes... nothing else as attractive, mind you, but so much competition. If I/we/somebody wanted to pursue that, I wonder what would be more accepted, a 48" fixed length (which, of course, would allow the Canterbury boats to be welcome members and might even up the design differences some) or a 1/32 scale (which would probably produce a rather unbalanced distribution of subjects, dominated by Ranger, I imagine, but that scale would make for a 45" length, eliminating the existing CJ boats... I don't think that would be very smart, but not having thought things through it was what I was considering at the time).
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It would still be fun to sail them but I was also discouraged by how many popular smaller sailboat classes the AMYA recognizes... nothing else as attractive, mind you, but so much competition. If I/we/somebody wanted to pursue that, I wonder what would be more accepted, a 48" fixed length (which, of course, would allow the Canterbury boats to be welcome members and might even up the design differences some) or a 1/32 scale (which would probably produce a rather unbalanced distribution of subjects, dominated by Ranger, I imagine, but that scale would make for a 45" length, eliminating the existing CJ boats... I don't think that would be very smart, but not having thought things through it was what I was considering at the time).
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EC12 106
Last edited by Al Stein; 01-23-2019 at 04:27 AM.
02-06-2019, 06:44 AM
#4
The full size 'J's range in size from the 90's to 120 feet and more. The CJ is sort of a one design class as opposed to the 'J' which has a selection of a dozen or more hulls. The CJ hull I believe is modeled after the full size Ranger which has been referred to as a Super 'J'. It is indeed 1/32 at 48 inches as the Ranger is over 135 feet in length.
The thing I like about the CJ is the way it sails. It has a "Presence" on the water. Stately and graceful. And it's big enough and heavy enough where it doesn't sail around like a toy.
The thing I like about the CJ is the way it sails. It has a "Presence" on the water. Stately and graceful. And it's big enough and heavy enough where it doesn't sail around like a toy.
02-07-2019, 03:29 AM
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The full size 'J's range in size from the 90's to 120 feet and more. The CJ is sort of a one design class as opposed to the 'J' which has a selection of a dozen or more hulls. The CJ hull I believe is modeled after the full size Ranger which has been referred to as a Super 'J'. It is indeed 1/32 at 48 inches as the Ranger is over 135 feet in length.
The thing I like about the CJ is the way it sails. It has a "Presence" on the water. Stately and graceful. And it's big enough and heavy enough where it doesn't sail around like a toy.
The thing I like about the CJ is the way it sails. It has a "Presence" on the water. Stately and graceful. And it's big enough and heavy enough where it doesn't sail around like a toy.
02-07-2019, 07:56 AM
#6
Yes, they can get up and scoot when the need arises. The Nottingham is slightly different hull construction. They also have an offering around 60 inches long. The company web site is: Nottingham They are the official source of class legal (48") CJ hulls in the UK. The American source is a Mr Hans Berger and his contact info and prices can be found here: Hans Berger Hans is a great guy and will deliver to you anything from a bare hull to a turn key boat. Like everything, it just takes money. 
The class was actually started in Australia an is quite popular down there. In the US the largest collections are found of course on the west coast. But there's a couple of groups in Texas and more smaller groups and individuals popping up all over.
The class was actually started in Australia an is quite popular down there. In the US the largest collections are found of course on the west coast. But there's a couple of groups in Texas and more smaller groups and individuals popping up all over.
02-09-2019, 06:42 AM
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02-10-2019, 05:27 PM
#9
Actually, I just saw the price for the first time and I'm pleased... hull and rudder at $145US. In context of my EC12, whose hull apparently cost $49 in the early 1970s, the current CJ price doesn't sound too bad to me.
I like to build (including building planked hulls), so a more open class appeals to me -- that and the shear size and weight of the J-class boats is what made me think of a class like any J boat at 1/32 scale, including allowing the 1930s conversion boats and the new ones -- Hanuman, Lionheart, Topaz, and Svea... if the plans are available. (Even looking at the original J-boats I was only able to collect all but one of the lines plans.)
Anyhow, there are some definite issues with the idea of yet another new class, but it sure would be great to see a variety of semi-scale boats all complying to the same rule
Aim High!
EC12 106
I like to build (including building planked hulls), so a more open class appeals to me -- that and the shear size and weight of the J-class boats is what made me think of a class like any J boat at 1/32 scale, including allowing the 1930s conversion boats and the new ones -- Hanuman, Lionheart, Topaz, and Svea... if the plans are available. (Even looking at the original J-boats I was only able to collect all but one of the lines plans.)
Anyhow, there are some definite issues with the idea of yet another new class, but it sure would be great to see a variety of semi-scale boats all complying to the same rule
Aim High!
EC12 106
Last edited by Al Stein; 02-10-2019 at 05:33 PM.
02-11-2019, 04:35 AM
#10
The CJ is a recognized class in AMYA. They put it under the "J" group. As for the J, you can get laser cut frames for the 1/16 size. I don't recall the company or just how many boats they offer but they have quite a few. I think they also claim they'll cut to any scale. So you could probably get a good start there.
Wish I could recall the company and their web site but I probably deleted it when cancer changed my modeling capabilities and priorities.
Wish I could recall the company and their web site but I probably deleted it when cancer changed my modeling capabilities and priorities.
