New Captain
#1

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbia,
MD
Posts: 302

Hello all,
I am a newbie here and I would love to get into the hobby. I live in Columbia Md. and there are three nice lakes to go sailing at. I was wondering if this boat would be good enough to start out with just to learn to sail?
SURMOUNT 800 RACING SAIL BOAT YACHT
I am sure I can find a club and get some pointers on how it's done. Thanks for any help as I don't want to throw $200.00 dollars away on this boat if it is not worth it.
Thanks again and I will need all of the help I can get.
I am a newbie here and I would love to get into the hobby. I live in Columbia Md. and there are three nice lakes to go sailing at. I was wondering if this boat would be good enough to start out with just to learn to sail?
SURMOUNT 800 RACING SAIL BOAT YACHT
I am sure I can find a club and get some pointers on how it's done. Thanks for any help as I don't want to throw $200.00 dollars away on this boat if it is not worth it.
Thanks again and I will need all of the help I can get.
#2

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Minneapolis,
MN
Posts: 169

First, go to [link]http://www.theamya.org/[/link]. (American Model Yatch Assoc.) They will have all the info you need, even find a local club.
Never heard of a SURMOUNT 800 RACING SAIL BOAT YACHT, so I can't advise. But check the AMYA for locals and see what they are sailing. If you want to race, you should have what they have.
Don't say if you want to build or ready to sail. There are good boats either way. Again, cvheck AMYA first.
Hope this helps
Never heard of a SURMOUNT 800 RACING SAIL BOAT YACHT, so I can't advise. But check the AMYA for locals and see what they are sailing. If you want to race, you should have what they have.
Don't say if you want to build or ready to sail. There are good boats either way. Again, cvheck AMYA first.
Hope this helps
#3

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbia,
MD
Posts: 302

Thanks for the advise. I have found a club near by and I will get with the members to gain a better understanding of what is needed before I purchase anything. Thanks again.
#4

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Minneapolis,
MN
Posts: 169

Graeat idea! Welcome aboard!

#5

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbia,
MD
Posts: 302

Thanks it should be fun
#6

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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sanger,
CA
Posts: 1,113

Welcome aboard!
The SURMOUNT 800 is not a very good boat.
The Thunder Tiger Victoria is a good starter boat.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKF85&P=0
The SURMOUNT 800 is not a very good boat.
The Thunder Tiger Victoria is a good starter boat.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKF85&P=0
#7

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fairfield, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 108

ORIGINAL: DONS BOAT WORKS
Welcome aboard!
The SURMOUNT 800 is not a very good boat.
Welcome aboard!
The SURMOUNT 800 is not a very good boat.


DO NOT BUY. At $2 [&:] the Surmount 800 will disappoint. Let alone $200. On the Australian ebay site there's about 20 of these various Chinese boats being up for auction all the time. The distributors are laughing. Selling prices vary from $AU150 to $AU200. The kits retail in China for about $US50.
Save up and buy a Soling 1m. Great, reliable and an excellent reputation with boats sailed around the world. I don't have one (I'm IOM now) but the clubs I'm with have many members who do. All racing and having a great time

Larry.
#8

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Minneapolis,
MN
Posts: 169

I'm with you. The S1M is thebest bang for the buck. Excellent recreational boat and a top competitor in it's one design class racing.
[link]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/solingonemeter/messages/128[/link]
[link]http://www.victor-model.com/[/link]
[link]http://www.solingonemeter.org/[/link]http://www.solingonemeter.org/
Check it out!
[link]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/solingonemeter/messages/128[/link]
[link]http://www.victor-model.com/[/link]
[link]http://www.solingonemeter.org/[/link]http://www.solingonemeter.org/
Check it out!
#9

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbia,
MD
Posts: 302

I have talked to a few guys that are sailing the S1M and they seem to really like the boat and said that it would be a great choice. Since I have the Spectrum DX7 I was wondering if I could use that and what receiver would you guys recommend for this. Thankyou guys for all of your help and I will keep you posted on my first sailboat.
#10

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 68

A Spectrum radio on 2.4 ghz is fine for sailing and you'll only need two or three channels. The only thing to watch is to get the rx up under the deck and some carbon fiber hulls may interfere with reception, so the antenna may need to be run above deck in them, but wood and 'glass boats are not a problem.
#11

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbia,
MD
Posts: 302

In selecting a first sailboat, dose size matter? Yea I know that don't sounds too good but like airplanes the larger ones are easier to fly I was wondering if that might hold true to sailing.
There are just so many sweet looking sailboats to pick from I have no clue as to which one to startout with .
There are just so many sweet looking sailboats to pick from I have no clue as to which one to startout with .
#12

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Blackpool Lancs, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 1,189

Size? Well, a boat twice as long will likely be eight times as heavy, and with prices to match. They might be easier to sail when in the water, but you are much more likely to join them in the water without intending to. (Archimedes, balance etc).
The very small ones do tend to be twitchy (even some footy fanatics agree about that), a good range of sizes for a beginner is between 2ft to a metre and a bit. These sizes are relatively easy to transport, they are easy to handle ashore and big enough to have some tolerance in the rigging, without needing the expense of high powered sail servos.
The Victoria is a masterwork from China where they got nearly everything right. Before then Thunder Tiger were learning, afterwqards they were forgetting.
If you sail on a lake with somebody else you will want to race on even terms (a yacht race can be defined as "two yachts on the same lake"), so at least something of similar size, and possibly type, will help.
The very small ones do tend to be twitchy (even some footy fanatics agree about that), a good range of sizes for a beginner is between 2ft to a metre and a bit. These sizes are relatively easy to transport, they are easy to handle ashore and big enough to have some tolerance in the rigging, without needing the expense of high powered sail servos.
The Victoria is a masterwork from China where they got nearly everything right. Before then Thunder Tiger were learning, afterwqards they were forgetting.
If you sail on a lake with somebody else you will want to race on even terms (a yacht race can be defined as "two yachts on the same lake"), so at least something of similar size, and possibly type, will help.
#13

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbia,
MD
Posts: 302

Well I decided on a Victoria, after looking around and listening to what everyone has been saying I am sure that this will be a nice start into learning how to sail. Like airplanes I'm also sure this will not be my last sailboat either. Thanks guys for all of your help and great sailing in the 2010 season.
#14

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbia,
MD
Posts: 302

Just out of curiosity, where would you get info. on scratch building a sailboat? I have know idea how to begin as I have build many airplanes but no sailboats. I have an interest in scratch building my own sailboat but I am sure there are certain procedures that take place in the process. Thanks and any help would be great.
#15

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Jersey, C.I. UK, , UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 56

Look here for self-build, not too big so inexpensive and easy to get to the pond.
http://www.rcsailing.net/forum1/forumdisplay.php?76-General-Discussion-(RG65)
For IOM plans, Google 'Traplet' Publications
Edward.
http://www.rcsailing.net/forum1/forumdisplay.php?76-General-Discussion-(RG65)
For IOM plans, Google 'Traplet' Publications
Edward.
#16

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Edmonds,
WA
Posts: 5

Check out the T-37 or the T-50Mod or T-50TRI
Easy Kit form build, all wood hull. comes complete with radio all you need is batteries.
http://www.tboats.com/
Easy Kit form build, all wood hull. comes complete with radio all you need is batteries.
http://www.tboats.com/
#17

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fairfield, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 108

ORIGINAL: JLITZ3
Just out of curiosity, where would you get info. on scratch building a sailboat? I have know idea how to begin as I have build many airplanes but no sailboats. I have an interest in scratch building my own sailboat but I am sure there are certain procedures that take place in the process. Thanks and any help would be great.
Just out of curiosity, where would you get info. on scratch building a sailboat? I have know idea how to begin as I have build many airplanes but no sailboats. I have an interest in scratch building my own sailboat but I am sure there are certain procedures that take place in the process. Thanks and any help would be great.
#18

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Columbia, MD
Posts: 41

Thanks for the info...
#19

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Columbia, MD
Posts: 41

ORIGINAL: JLITZ3
Well I decided on a Victoria, after looking around and listening to what everyone has been saying I am sure that this will be a nice start into learning how to sail. Like airplanes I'm also sure this will not be my last sailboat either. Thanks guys for all of your help and great sailing in the 2010 season.
Well I decided on a Victoria, after looking around and listening to what everyone has been saying I am sure that this will be a nice start into learning how to sail. Like airplanes I'm also sure this will not be my last sailboat either. Thanks guys for all of your help and great sailing in the 2010 season.
#20

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: las vegas,
NV
Posts: 121

If you have the money get yourself a set of Carr sails, they're awesome!
#21

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Columbia, MD
Posts: 41

Thanks, I was just about to purchase a set from Longbow products check them out and tell me what you think.
#22

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: las vegas,
NV
Posts: 121

I have no experience with them, but they look nice.
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