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jmilesr 05-29-2012 07:04 AM

CLC Independence - Radio Equipment
 
My son and I are building a Chesapeake Light Craft "Indepence" model and I'm a bit confused on what type of electronics we should put into the boat - can anyone suggest a good radio set up. We are making some modifictions to add another servo so we need at least three channels.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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jmilesr 05-29-2012 07:19 AM

RE: CLC Independence - Radio Equipment
 
I forgot to post a link for the Independence. It's a 48" long ship with over 1,000 sq inches of sail. The model is produced by Chesapeake Light Craft in Annapolis. I've built a few of the sail boats (1:1 scale) but this is my first time with R/C and electronics

www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/wooden-sailboat-kits/remote-control-sailboat/independence-remote-control-sail-boat.html

sunworksco 08-18-2012 02:59 PM

RE: CLC Independence - Radio Equipment
 
The inexpensive way is to buy a good used Ace Nautical Commander radio. You can post a wanted ad here and other rc forums.
These are great radios and can be converted from the 75MHz to 2.4GHz transmitter. Or you can use both frequencies .
The more expensive but ideal is to buy a good used Graupner MC-19 40MHz radio. These were sold in Europe.
The 40MHz transmitter can be converted to a HiTec 2.4GHz transmitter that will allow full telemetry.

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<font color="#800000" size="2" face="Arial">4-language menu. Micro-computer radio control system for 10 control functions (SPCM) (PPM 24: 12 control functions) 4 multi-function menus: Fixed-wing, Helicopter, Boat and Car/Truck.</font>
</td> <td width="135" align="left" valign="top"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; "><font size="3">35 MHz</font></span></td> <td width="235" align="left" valign="top"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Arial; "><font color="#FF0000">Ref. N&deg;.4821.77</font></span></font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="135" align="left" valign="top"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; "><font size="3">35 MHz-B</font></span></td> <td width="235" align="left" valign="top"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Arial; "><font color="#FF0000">Ref. N&deg;.4821.77.B</font></span></font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="135" align="left" valign="top"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; "><font size="3">40 MHz</font></span></td> <td width="235" align="left" valign="top"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Arial; "><font color="#FF0000">Ref. N&deg;.4827.77</font></span></font></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="135" align="left" valign="top"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; "><font size="3">41 MHz</font></span></td> <td width="235" align="left" valign="top"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Arial; "><font color="#FF0000">Ref. N&deg;.4827.41.77</font></span></font></td> </tr> </tbody></table><table width="970" style="font-family: Times; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: medium; "> <tbody> <tr> <td width="287"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); "><font size="3" color="#FFFFFF">back</font></span></font></td> <td width="426"><span style="background-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); "><font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">special offers, price list</font></span></td> <td width="237"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); "><font face="Arial" size="3" color="#FFFF00">ROKE- home</font></span></font></td> </tr> </tbody></table><hr width="970" align="left" style="font-family: Times; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: medium; " /><table border="0" cellpadding="2" width="79%" style="font-family: Times; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: medium; "> <tbody> <tr> <td width="51%" valign="top"> <div style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold; width: 253px; height: 21px; ">Product information</div> <div style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal; width: 448px; height: 693px; "><font face="Arial" size="2">Information sur les produits
</font>GRAUPNER again sets new standards in High-End radio control technology. World&acute;s first: four-language dialogue menu (German, English, French, Italian). 12 control functions. Simplified assignment of sticks, external switches, proportional controls and trim levers as control functions, multi-function boat / car transmitter without additional external switches or switch modules. Update-capable operating system for a future-proof transmitter. Ultra-Speed Low-Power Single-Chip Micro-Computer, 256 kByte (2Mbit) flash memory, 16 kByte (128 kbit) RAM, 73 ns operating cycle! With integral high-speed precision A/D converter. 3D Rotary Encoder in conjunction with four programming buttons for accurate settings and superb programming convenience. 20 model memories. High-resolution MULTI-DATA GRAPHIC LCD screen ensures accurate monitoring and precise graphic display of curves and characteristic lines. CONVENIENT MODE SELECTOR for easy switching between stick modes 1 - 4 (e.g. throttle right / throttle left). 4 selectable modulation types. SPCM 20 Super-PCM modulation with high system resolution of 1024 steps per control function. For the following receivers: smc-14, smc-19, smc-20, smc-19 DS, smc-20 DS, smc-20 DSYN PCM 20 PCM with system resolution of 512 steps per control function. For the following receivers: mc-12, mc-20, DS 20 mc PPM 18 The most widespread standard transmission method (FM and FMSSS). For the following receivers: C 8 FM, C 12, C 16, C 17, C 19, DS 18, DS 19, DS 20, and the following miniature receivers: XP 10, XP 12 FM, XN 12, XM 16, R 600, R 700, C 6 FM PPM 24 12 control functions are possible with the DS 24 FM S receiver, one of them (freely selectable) as an integral &amp;#93;Nautic switch module. In this case a module, Order Ref. N&deg;. 4159, is required at the receiver end. At the transmitter all the controls which can be connected can be used to control up to 8 switched functions, i.e. switches, trim switches, sticks and auxiliary analogue controls connected to inputs 5 - 10. Two additional Nautic transmitter modules (Order Ref. N&deg;. 4108 or 4141) can also be installed and operated with the corresponding receiver modules (Order Ref. N&deg;. 4159 or 4142). Even in this configuration there are still 9 functions freely available: normally 1 for steering, 1 for forward / reverse speed, and a further 7 functions for any auxiliary functions you wish. They can be operated using either stick functions including trim, or stick functions and trims as separate (analogue) functions, or analogue inputs (inputs 5 - 10 / switches). This maximum set-up provides 24 reversible switched functions + 2 standard control functions + 7 free function channels. 3 freely programmable mixers for fixed-wing model aircraft, helicopters, boats, cars and trucks. 3-point mixers for throttle, collective pitch and tail rotor plus gyro offset adjustment. These settings can be made separately for each flight phase. Fixed-wing / Heli: Dual Rate / Expo for Ch2 - Ch4 (in each case switchable in common for each channel).</div> </td> <td width="86%" valign="top">http://www.rokemodell.de/produkte/gr/gr4821.77.jpg

<font face="Arial" size="2">Phase trim for camber-changing flaps, ailerons, elevator, according to model type. Helicopter swashplate mixer for 1-, 2-, 3- and 4-point linkages. Servo travel adjustment for 12 servos, servo reverse, servo centre, servo travel, variable separately for each side of centre. Programmable Fail-Safe for PCM/SPCM. 2 switch-controlled timers, stopwatch, flight time / run time. HELP BUTTON provides valuable information on programming and the currently selected programming menu. Model copy function for all model memories. Comprehensive fixed-wing mixer menu with 12 set-up programs for 2 ailerons and 2 camber-changing flaps (number of servos). Trainer system with total control transfer. Basic fixed-wing model aircraft settings. Motor at Ch1 (idle trim). Tail (type). AIL/FLAP (Ref. N&deg;. of servos). 2nd and 3rd flight phase. Trainer (total control transfer). All adjustments are made at the Teacher transmitter. Basic model helicopter settings. Swashplate type 1 - 4. Rotor direction. Collective pitch min. forward / back. 2nd flight phase + auto-rotation. Trainer (total control transfer). Basic model boat / car settings. An integral Nautic-Expert module can be activated. All physical controls present can be assigned to any function and used to operate up to 8 switched functions, e.g. primary controls, trim switches and stick functions.</font></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="137%" valign="top" colspan="2"> <div style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold; width: 249px; height: 21px; "><font face="Arial" size="3">Content</font></div> <div style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal; width: 917px; height: 20px; ">mc-19 micro-computer transmitter with integral NiMH transmitter battery, transmitter RF module on the appropriate frequency</div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="51%" valign="top"> <div style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold; width: 255px; height: 21px; ">Specification</div> <div style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal; width: 450px; height: 322px; ">Transmission system SPCM 20/PCM 20/PPM 18/PPM 24, selectable
Transmitter RF module Integral (10 kHz spacing 35, 35-B, 40 or 41 MHz bands)
FMsss T crystals 35 MHz band: channels 61 .... 8035 MHz band: channels 182 .... 19140 MHz band: channels 50 ... 9241 MHz band: channels 400 ... 420
Channel spacing 10 kHz
Max. control functions SPCM = 10, PCM = 10, PPM = 9, PPM 24 = 12
Base unit control functions 6 functions
Control functions 10, (4 proportional with trims, 6 proportional or switchable) plus 2 software control functions
Channel pulse width 1.5 ms &plusmn; 0.5 ms
Servo travel resolution SPCM 20: 10-bit (1024 steps), PCM 20: 9-bit (512 steps)
Temperature range -15  +55&deg;C
Telescopic aerial 10-section, approx. 1470 mm long
Operating voltage 9.6 ... 12 V
Current drain approx. 40 mA (excl. RF module)
Dimensions approx. 225 x 215 x 70 mm
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Chargers
Transmitter charge lead 3022
Receiver-batteries
Charge lead for receiver-batteries 3021
Servo C 577 orOther servos.</font></p> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">
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