How to build dummy ww1 1/3 spandau guns
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Love the Albatros............looks so cool.
Those guns look good TK, I will be doing a set of those for my DR1. Your pics are a great help.
Thanks for posting.
Craig
Love the Albatros............looks so cool.
Those guns look good TK, I will be doing a set of those for my DR1. Your pics are a great help.
Thanks for posting.
Craig
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Jim
Your so welcome, And thankyou for responding.
I very much enjoy sharing my hobby with others. I have been one of the lucky ones to be able to build half decent and see things in my mind of how they work. I also rely on a lot of full scale research. This is what makes a better model builder. I enjoy recording all my work with pictures, that way when I forget how I did something years later I can always go back and refresh my mind on a build. Plus it's fun to see your airplanes come together and be finished. When I see questions come up on RCU such as the gun builds I very much enjoy showing my ideas as I love very much watching others. And who have taught me quite a bit I must say. There are alot of very talented builders out there who I wish would show there builds more often. Back in the early 80's we did not have these ways of comunicating or sharing our builds as we do today. I relied on magazine articles , documentation services, and full scale aircraft to learn from. I have to admit I actually used to fly to Ca, and Arizona just to measure and take photo's of planes I was building. Now with the invention of these computers we can sit at home sipping hot coffee and research anything we wish too. Todays model builders have it much easier, espeacially when you have people like GTM making those beautiful kits. All the hard work is done. I had to scratch build everything. So yes when it comes to sharing a build of any kind. We learn from each other, we make new friends we might never get to meet, we comunicate with something we all enjoy and love to do.
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TK
Your so welcome, And thankyou for responding.
I very much enjoy sharing my hobby with others. I have been one of the lucky ones to be able to build half decent and see things in my mind of how they work. I also rely on a lot of full scale research. This is what makes a better model builder. I enjoy recording all my work with pictures, that way when I forget how I did something years later I can always go back and refresh my mind on a build. Plus it's fun to see your airplanes come together and be finished. When I see questions come up on RCU such as the gun builds I very much enjoy showing my ideas as I love very much watching others. And who have taught me quite a bit I must say. There are alot of very talented builders out there who I wish would show there builds more often. Back in the early 80's we did not have these ways of comunicating or sharing our builds as we do today. I relied on magazine articles , documentation services, and full scale aircraft to learn from. I have to admit I actually used to fly to Ca, and Arizona just to measure and take photo's of planes I was building. Now with the invention of these computers we can sit at home sipping hot coffee and research anything we wish too. Todays model builders have it much easier, espeacially when you have people like GTM making those beautiful kits. All the hard work is done. I had to scratch build everything. So yes when it comes to sharing a build of any kind. We learn from each other, we make new friends we might never get to meet, we comunicate with something we all enjoy and love to do.
Thankyou
TK
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I also rely on a lot of full scale research. This is what makes a better model builder.
I also rely on a lot of full scale research. This is what makes a better model builder.
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Nice clear photo sequence Tom, thanks. It makes scratch building your own a whole lot easier to see the parts, apart, and then assembled sequentially.
Yes, modelling has changed a lot since the 8os. Back then, competitions were the best way to find out what others were doing and how they were doing it. I can remember how excited I was to see Dave Boddington's Scale Aircraft Quarterly started up.
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Yes, modelling has changed a lot since the 8os. Back then, competitions were the best way to find out what others were doing and how they were doing it. I can remember how excited I was to see Dave Boddington's Scale Aircraft Quarterly started up.
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"Thanks for looking. "
Thank YOU for posting. I once wanted to do a pair (much smaller), and bought up all the available information I could find, including Arizona Modelers, and Graham Hill design for a full scale replica, and none of them showed the spring that you used. Arizona Modelers were such garbage, that I threw them away, and designed my own, and had the laser cutting done my by Monzano.
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Thank YOU for posting. I once wanted to do a pair (much smaller), and bought up all the available information I could find, including Arizona Modelers, and Graham Hill design for a full scale replica, and none of them showed the spring that you used. Arizona Modelers were such garbage, that I threw them away, and designed my own, and had the laser cutting done my by Monzano.
Les
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TK
What did you use to seal the wood on the barrel jackets?
Those guns look awesome, I have ordered 2 for my DR1.
Your pics will be a great reference.
Craig
What did you use to seal the wood on the barrel jackets?
Those guns look awesome, I have ordered 2 for my DR1.
Your pics will be a great reference.
Craig
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Craig
I use thin or medium zap glue to seal all my woods. Just use your finger, rub it in. Than peal off the glue from your finger when your done. I've been doing it that way for 30 years. Works great!
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I use thin or medium zap glue to seal all my woods. Just use your finger, rub it in. Than peal off the glue from your finger when your done. I've been doing it that way for 30 years. Works great!
TK
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TK, thanks for the reply.
Thats a great idea. I am use to removing glue from my fingers
I also noticed in your pictures it looks as if you used metal for the gun covers. Did you use lithoplate or styrene plastic.
I have used styrene plasic over balsa before and after sanding it looks like metal.
Yes a full scale gun, maybe her as well in the basement, holding it, would never get any work done [8D]
Craig
Thats a great idea. I am use to removing glue from my fingers
I also noticed in your pictures it looks as if you used metal for the gun covers. Did you use lithoplate or styrene plastic.
I have used styrene plasic over balsa before and after sanding it looks like metal.
Yes a full scale gun, maybe her as well in the basement, holding it, would never get any work done [8D]
Craig
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You are all very kind indeed. I suppose the elastic band on the control column kills the shot doesn't it
The dials and the tube knuckle joints were all printed in Nylon by SLS. Extrusion printers can't touch this method for detail nor strength, The only problem is the porous surface of the print and an effect called "peel" which has to me managed for best results.
Dexterity has moved from the lathe to the keyboard for some modelling on a permanent basis for me as a result of these trials.
All good fun
The dials and the tube knuckle joints were all printed in Nylon by SLS. Extrusion printers can't touch this method for detail nor strength, The only problem is the porous surface of the print and an effect called "peel" which has to me managed for best results.
Dexterity has moved from the lathe to the keyboard for some modelling on a permanent basis for me as a result of these trials.
All good fun
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Brings new meaning to the phrase "builder of the model!" I imagine that in the future scale model documentation will require all the appropriate CAD/3D files. By the way, are those Teus' wonderful turnbuckles I see on the side of the cockpit?
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I absolutely agree with you. 3D printing has been about for many years but is just becoming popular with the hobby market. Soon there will be far better machines on the market for the home user that will take things further forward. The Form 1 SLA printer is one example of the progression, but currently not the solution.
I see skills with the lathe, but there are also skills with to making the 3D models in software. I started teaching myself in April this year and it takes some getting used to but not impossible. Like any new technology we have to embrace it and manage it. I can remember when the first glass fuselages were first sold many years ago and people said that it was cheating, now they are common place and accepted in competition.
I have no problem with 3D printed parts in models for competition as long as the builder sat at the computer and created the parts themselves, but that would be for the aircraft structure/detail only. However, accessories like guns, dials, compass, etc, are all part of the embellishment of the model and I can see these being accepted readily as they can be purchased now in other formats (wood/resin/cast). We are seeing 3D printed pilots on the market and there does not seem to be too big a problem from what I have seen.
I have used 3D printing technology to draw up the radiator on my D.VII because of the difficulty accommodating the flywheel within the structure of the radiator itself. This is where I would agree it is controversial as it is part of the model structure, but then again, if anyone thinks it is easy or cheap should have a go themselves ;-\
And yes those turnbuckles are from my good friend Teus. Well spotted that man!
I see skills with the lathe, but there are also skills with to making the 3D models in software. I started teaching myself in April this year and it takes some getting used to but not impossible. Like any new technology we have to embrace it and manage it. I can remember when the first glass fuselages were first sold many years ago and people said that it was cheating, now they are common place and accepted in competition.
I have no problem with 3D printed parts in models for competition as long as the builder sat at the computer and created the parts themselves, but that would be for the aircraft structure/detail only. However, accessories like guns, dials, compass, etc, are all part of the embellishment of the model and I can see these being accepted readily as they can be purchased now in other formats (wood/resin/cast). We are seeing 3D printed pilots on the market and there does not seem to be too big a problem from what I have seen.
I have used 3D printing technology to draw up the radiator on my D.VII because of the difficulty accommodating the flywheel within the structure of the radiator itself. This is where I would agree it is controversial as it is part of the model structure, but then again, if anyone thinks it is easy or cheap should have a go themselves ;-\
And yes those turnbuckles are from my good friend Teus. Well spotted that man!
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I can't disagree with anything you say (much as little voices inside my head want to). 3D printed parts are the future, whether the modeler "sculpts" them himself or buys them from someone else. And once 3D printer mature and we all have one at home, I imagine there will be a nice market for 3D files one can print at home. You radiator looks awesome! How do the materials hold up to heat?
And I certainly appreciate how much scale research goes into producing a single 3D part. That's almost the most mind-boggling part. Somehow though I'll always hold a special place in my modeler's heart for guys like this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tgMmfIJXu4 P.S. I also have a set of Teus' turnbuckles waiting for an appropriate model.
And I certainly appreciate how much scale research goes into producing a single 3D part. That's almost the most mind-boggling part. Somehow though I'll always hold a special place in my modeler's heart for guys like this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tgMmfIJXu4 P.S. I also have a set of Teus' turnbuckles waiting for an appropriate model.
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Yes I have seen his work before . . . truly amazing stuff.
The nylon is good to about 150° and should be OK. That's part of the fun experimenting like this haha!
The nylon is good to about 150° and should be OK. That's part of the fun experimenting like this haha!