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Old 07-10-2016, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffEE
The 24 x 10 prop flew the plane at a scale speed at 1/3 throttle. With the 28 x 6 it was almost (but not quite) 1/2 throttle for the same speed. The 6 pitch prop took a bit longer to get up to speed after a maneuver. But with the 28 x 6 the landings are much better, the plane slows down at a very nice steady rate. And I have control of the tail surfaces longer before they quit working. Also with the 24 x 10 prop there was a lot of Dutch roll at anything over 1/2 throttle. I flew at 2/3 throttle with the 28 x 6 and saw no tail shake at all even though the air speed was the same. I think either prop would be fine if its all you had, but I really believe that the longer reach of the 28 x 6 prop helps this aircraft. Just my 2 cents worth.

Yep, that's my conclusion, too!
Old 07-19-2016, 04:50 PM
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It looks really good in the air, you have to get yours up and get some photos. Thanks to the man behind the camera. I think it was Noel Hunt.
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:30 AM
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Warbirds over Iowa has come and gone. It was cloudy, hot, humid, damp, sticky and I had the BEST time ever. The folks that ran the event did a great job. Food was grilled for lunch, and the flying was almost non stop. The clouds kept the sun from outright cooking us. The wind was right down the runway for most of the day. My 1/3 scale Tripe was awarded Most Scale aircraft. I was thankful for the honor. You should plan to make the trip next year if you can. My motor sheared off one of the mounting bolts but other than that, All is good. Next event for myself and the Tripe is Owatonna and the Northern Alliance Military FlyIn.

Thanks to Scott Anderson for the pictures.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:07 AM
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Jeff,
Congrats on the award.. Good job!!
Old 08-06-2016, 04:42 PM
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So here are the non-construction issues I have found with the 1/3 scale Tripe. I think the bungies that are included with the kit are too weak. Any uneven landing, with one wheel touching before the other, the axel flexes too far and the sub wing gets cracked just above the axel. Stronger bungie cords or go without the scale set up and go straight axel, no shock absorbers.
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The wire for the landing gear is very wobbly. I know they are long, and the plane is 30 lbs, but its hard to keep it from looking like a drunk man walking as it taxies. What are the chances of a little bit bigger wires for the mains?
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The sub wing construction is proving to be a weak spot. The point where the plywood meets the balsa is splitting after almost every landing. The small screws that hold the sub wing to the axel are just not able to keep the weight of the sub wing from shifting during landings. Perhaps making the base of the sub wing out of one piece of plywood and bigger screws with washers would help.
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That's about it. If you are not that far along in the build, you may want to look at these areas. I think I will look into new bungies. And if I ever have to do a rebuild of the sub wing, I will try the upgrade. It might not be any better, but perhaps it might.

And ALWAYS land into the wind.
Old 08-06-2016, 05:37 PM
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It sounds like an sub wing made from EPP foam covered with cloth would be the ticket
Old 08-07-2016, 04:41 PM
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I think your sub wing problems are all related to the too loose bungees.......and possibly the wheel being positioned on the axel too close to the sub wing - or a combination of the two. When the axel moves up too far it might be contacting the sub wing and causing damage. Tighten the bungees.

I have been flying mine for 3 seasons without any sub wing issues at all.

.....just my opinion here, and you know what is said about opinions ........

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Old 08-07-2016, 05:35 PM
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I have definitely found on my 1/3 pup...you want the bungies tight as possible.
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I agree on the Bungees with foodie.. TIGHT you want then Tight..
You'll find your take offs are better too with less bounce in the wheels etc.
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well the first season with my 1/3 scale triplane is over. It was a really fun year. I met a bunch of new pilots at different events, and learned a lot while I was having fun. Sad to say that on the "just one more quick flight to end the year" I cartwheeled the Tripe down the runway on a cross wind landing. Broke all 3 wings, landing gear, rudder, elevator and horizontal stab. But the body is still perfect. Lots of work to do this winter. The re-build is not the hard part, its getting the paint to look good. But I guess the full size planes had a patch or two on them. Oh well, I should have it ready for Windy City Warbirds in June at St. Charles Ill. I think I need a Mick Reeves 1/3 scale Camel to go with my Tripe.......hmmmm....
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Wow, what a bummer. I can tell from seeing your planes up close you will be able to make it right again..Sure hate to hear it though.
When mine rolled the tire off the rim on the test flight I know I got lucky .. because it stopped and stood up fast..Thankfully no cartwheel.

p.s. I sent you an email....
Old 11-18-2016, 12:42 PM
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We can rebuild it! We can make it better, stronger, faster....
Old 11-18-2016, 01:11 PM
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Good deal! Make it better stronger "slower" Scale flight looks sooooo much better than not.
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Old 11-20-2016, 05:05 PM
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yea...nothing worse than a 3D WWI bird. Or giant DVII knife edging down the runway. Scale speed and flight are everything, to me at least. But each to their own. I just found this picture that was taken by somebody at one of the events. I would give credit to the photographer if I knew their name. Its a great picture.
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Old 11-27-2016, 05:50 PM
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As long as I was doing a rebuild, I thought I would touch up the front end with a quick add on. It started out as a Mick Reeves kit. Not too shabby if you look at it from a few feet away.
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Old 11-28-2016, 12:14 PM
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Nice! Now all you gotta do is find room around your engine for it.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:07 PM
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sad, but true. I will have to cut away about 4 of the 9 to get it to sit in the correct place. A before/during/after picture. It looks much better I think.
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Originally Posted by jeffEE
sad, but true. I will have to cut away about 4 of the 9 to get it to sit in the correct place. A before/during/after picture. It looks much better I think.
Nice. I need to do something like that on my N-28.

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This is a picture from the AMA Mag. showing Billy Thompson's Camel at the 2016 Dawn Patrol. I think this is the way to go about showing off my version of the Le Rhone without putting it into the DRI.
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Old 12-20-2016, 02:10 PM
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The latest item in the "You are never done building a scale airplane" department. More realistic German wheels. Front, Back and side view. The back is flatter, and the spokes on the front look better. And the tire is grey and skinny. The only issue is that the hole for the axel is a lot bigger, so I will have to address that. But a small problem really. Looking forward to the 2017 flying season.
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No big deal to bush those down to your axle.
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very true. A few brass tubes and a dash of solder, drill the cotter pin hole and its all set.
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I was able to See Billys 1/2 Camel early in its flying life... When you seldom see a 1/3 WW1 plane at the field.. and then you get to walk right up and around a 1/2.. its amazing ....
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Default Just about ready to cover. What a great build. Lots of fun and an excellent kit.

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