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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s



    Well Bill, out of curiosity what you want for it? You can PM if not comfortable posting it.

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    PM just sent.....................

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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Well I believe I figured out why I was having attachment issues or pulling away issues. In the process of recovering today I got to a point where I could not even iron the fabric on, period. Now, I know my jar of Stix it is maybe a year old but the bigger issue may be evaporation. It has became somewhat thick from being open during use. So I think it is to old and/or to weak. I ordered another can, it should be here in a few days.
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Hmmm... I wonder about pouring a small amount into another seal-able container and immediately close the can.  Would that help it to last longer?  It would be a shame to use a few ounces and then throw the rest away!
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Robert,
    I have never used the stix-it, I always use nitrate dope for attaching the fabric. Just something I have always used and I am comfortable with it.

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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Anthony, same here with the Stix-it. I just did not remember it being that old. I guess like other items I need to date it when I purchase it. Of which I have done with the can that came today. I also ordered some more fabric yesterday as well. I threw away the pieces from the failed attempt to attach. I am beginning to get that I will be glad when this one is done feeling, so maybe a few more days doing other things will alleviate that.
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Stix-it can be thinned with nitrate dope thinner. It is essentially thick nitrate dope. Stix-it is the same thing as Sure-Seam glue by Certified Coatings available from Aircraft Spruce. It is a dope process glue. Poly-tac is the polyfiber glue, as you know. Both glues are suppose to be wet when putting fabric on, for full size airplanes. We modelers "miss use" the Stix-It by using it as an iron on glue; I do too. Mixing the processes, along with skipping rib stitching, is what killed Steve Wittman in his 4 seat Tailwind variant. The solvents in the Polyfiber just soak in too deep too fast. It is one of the things that works 90% of the time with no trouble, but ruins the day when it doesn't.

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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s



    Tff, I'm not one to argue but the following is a direct paste from Sig's site. Notice the last sentence.





    Stix-It works great for adhering SIG Koverall, silk, silkspan, tissue, or any other uncoated covering material to a model. Its high solid content and adhesion qualities make it a breeze to cover models with these economical coverings. Stix-It eliminates the messy part of the traditional process. No more need to dope through the covering and rub it down with your fingers. Simply brush a coat of Stix-It on the wood, let it dry, then iron on your covering material.

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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    I wasn't going to say anything yet. But, the fabric came today and the wife just told me she plans on going off tomorrow.
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s


    ORIGINAL: acerc



    Tff, I'm not one to argue but the following is a direct paste from Sig's site. Notice the last sentence.





    Stix-It works great for adhering SIG Koverall, silk, silkspan, tissue, or any other uncoated covering material to a model. Its high solid content and adhesion qualities make it a breeze to cover models with these economical coverings. Stix-It eliminates the messy part of the traditional process. No more need to dope through the covering and rub it down with your fingers. Simply brush a coat of Stix-It on the wood, let it dry, then iron on your covering material.

    Robert, excuse my ignorance....is it the same idea as Balsaloc ?

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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s


    ORIGINAL: acerc

    I wasn't going to say anything yet. But, the fabric came today and the wife just told me she plans on going off tomorrow.
    When she "Goes Off" , does she throw things ?

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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s



    John, it is the same technique. I don't know if the same base so some test apps would be in order for the paints to be used.



    Sorry Kevin, No! Those things have been gone for years. Now it's smooth sailing.

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    Looking forward to seeing it covered ...again.

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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Ha! That makes two of us. This bird has been the worst for the completing for one reason or another. And what I said Friday was blown out the window, turned out the wife's plans included me. Three days later, I ache from head to toe and the flower beads, still, are not quite done. With the need to finish the beds and my normal weekly duties I don't know if I'll even touch the Pitts this week. The way things are going you just might be done with that Spacewalker before me.
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Ok, aches and pains aside, the fuse is recovered and stiched. Debating on whether to stay home tomorrow and get it back to the silver and maybe the first coat of yellow. Or fulfill my responsibilities at the airfield and go mow it. Hmmmmmmm, decisions decisions.
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Oh boy!  That's a toughy there Robert.  You're going to have to decide that by yourself.  You probably know what I'd vote for.  
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    And here's a pic for proof. And I will be mowing tomorrow, kinda have to.
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Looks real good Robert. Just curious though, why do you only cover it to the back of the cockpit?yeah, if you don't mow, you'll probably have a whole bunch of grumpy dandelion hating pilots on your hands.
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Looking good there Robert. Is that a new peg board hanging on the wall? Maybe if I did something like that I would be better organized LOL you've seen my shop do ya think there’s any hope for me??
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Same here Dan, you and me both!  
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Steve the front half gets covered with aluminum panels. See pic. . .Dan, 'No comment"!
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    now thats going to look sweet . soon enough youll have yourself two beautiful pitts models.how much longer till you get the big boy?
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Thank's Steve, the second will be 2-4 weeks before it gets here. I'm in no hurry, there is plenty to do.
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Waiting for cure to iron the perimeter tapes down and it will be ready for some spraying.
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    RE: Andy Sheber Pitts s1s

    Robert, I want to see a close up of the corners after you get the perimeter tape ironed down.  Those sharp corners are tough to keep from wrinkling up!
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